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The density of the matter conatined exactly within the event horizon drops as the source mass increases.

Quote from: jeffreyH on 25/09/2014 18:59:59The density of the matter conatined exactly within the event horizon drops as the source mass increases. I'm having difficulty following your thoughts here Jeff. And BTW, the author of this article states that, according to the math, no singularity or event horizon can be the result. Just to be clear; Peer review will need to follow before I can accept these findings, especially after not having seen the math in question myself. Nevertheless, a very provocative subject.

As a mass collapses there will be a point in time where the all the matter will be contained by the event horizon but with some matter still coincident with the horizon. If you calculate the density for increasing mass then this density drops as the volume increases.

I am talking about a frozen moment in time and nothing to do with the singularity. The point at which the mass has collapsed to a volume described by the event horizon. We have no experimental information on the initiators of the collapse. It is all theoretical and hypothetical.

I think we'll have to agree to disagree my friend. I don't think it is really possible to speak about an event horizon without recognizing the existence of the singularity.

Quote from: Ethos_I think we'll have to agree to disagree my friend. I don't think it is really possible to speak about an event horizon without recognizing the existence of the singularity.You're aware, aren't you, of the Rindler horizon? It's an event horizon which is found in a uniformly accelerating frame of reference and in that case there's no singularity.

I have just read up on the Rindler Horizon. http://gregegan.customer.netspace.net.au/SCIENCE/Rindler/RindlerHorizon.htmlA very enlightening web page. I will be looking at this further.