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quote:Originally posted by thebrain13Whatever particular trex existed in the past, will eventually exist again exact weight height color personality and environment, he will die the same and be reborn over and over and over. Whatever has happened can and will happen again.Whatever event occurs, means that, that event is possible. Granted, that it is possible, that it happened before, guarentees that it can happen again, over a long enough period of time.An infinite amount of life forms is impossible. Lets say, you take a lifeform that has a horse head, dolphin fins, a human brain, and 17 arms. That particular combination will probably never happen. I guess its possible, it could theoretically exist. All I know is if it did exist, it would exist an infinite amount of times more and if it never existed, it will never exist.Eventually all tiny differences will be exhausted, somewhere down the line the events of the universe will have to repeat itself, just by meer chance. That very moment it repeats itself given a completely deterministic set of physical laws(which I believe in) will cause the inevitable repetition of previous events for all time. And hence your brief existence in an infinite amount of time becomes a possible.
quote:Originally posted by thebrain13it doesnt matter what form of complexity you choose to look at, wether it is heads and arms, genetic permutations, anything you choose. Complexity always has a limit. Eventually, only eventually, a Banana will run out of ways to taste.
quote:Originally posted by thebrain13I think one of the hardest questions in physics to answer is, how does the universe become "lumpy" in the first place.I believe whatever theory eventually will guide "lumpyness" will be bound by the same principle I discussed earlier. There will eventually run out of ways to be different even in a universe with infinite components and places to put them. The universe can only be so lumpy.
quote:Even though the universe may have an infinite amount of material and an infinite amount of places, there will eventually run out of ways to distribute it differently, so eventually everything will just have to repeat itself, in a perfectly semetrical manner. For example I believe that in a given distance and direction say 9 trillion lightyears to my left, there is a person typing this very instant, thinking, moving, and looking exactly like me. And because there is someone 9 trillion lightyears to my left, means there is also someone 9 trillion lightyears to my right. We are one in the same.
quote:Originally posted by thebrain13I dont understand why there would be any subtle difference, both skys are exactly the same over each persons head.
quote:Originally posted by thebrain13This is what I assume. Time cant end, there can always be a next year, even if the earth explodes, the universe stops moving, all the energy is used up, there will always be a next thousand, million, billion, trillion on and on and on years. Time is infinite. So given that time is infinite, what are the chances that we exist at only this one specific point in time? I guess the equation would be our lifespan divided by infinity, in otherwords that chance is infinantly small, or that thought (which is assumed by everyone) is impossible.............. eventually the right amounts of carbon nitrogen oxygen hydrogen etc will collect on earth, the sun will burn just hot enough and you will exist once again, even if it takes a trillion trillion trillion trillion years.So thats how I know einstein, me, you, and george washington cant truely die. They existed once, and they will exist again......
quote:Originally posted by thebrain13To another someone, your analogy is not what im talking about. your assuming there are only two people one road and one car. If my truly identical people were viewing a road, they would both view a car coming from the left, and they would both view a car receading to the right. your distance 1 half mile between the two (identical men) were sitting would prove to be an important number. The guy to the right, would see a man, half a mile to the right of him as well. In fact he would (if he could) view an infinite amount of men spaced 1 half mile apart for eternity.This analogy is much more accurate, picture a street where all the houses are identical, each house has the exact same view of each others neighbors.
quote:Originally posted by bostjanWhat makes you you is your genetics and your environment. If another creature had the same genetics and environment as you, it would be you, and behave as you are right now. But with no way to distinguish the time you exist from the other time you exist, they must be the same. Thus, you live once and then you die, and that's the end of you. Everything in the universe has to deal with it's finite nature and so do we, it's simple logic, really. It's not unfortunate nor ugly. It's a beautiful thing and it is very fortunate that we have this life to enjoy, so stop worrying about death, which is inevitable, and just have a good time with life, which you have now. 
quote:Originally posted by thebrain13Another someone, if there was a point equidistant between two observers my universe. Only one could look at that specific point directly, unless somebody has eyes in the back of their head. All observers would be looking in the same direction at all times. If one of the observers is looking specifically at the point, and then continues to look a little farther, he would see the back of another mans head, if he could peer through his head, he would see another point the same distance away from the other man as it is from him. Every observer has the same view.
quote:Originally posted by thebrain13It doesnt matter. If I have a video camera looking behind me, than so does everyone else, so they all see the same thing.
quote:There are two major views of creationism and death. There is the religous and the scientific. Religions answer is god created everything, and when you die you go to the afterlife. Sciences answer for creationism is the big bang, and their answer for death is the disturbing, rot for eternity, and well thats it. You shall be engulfed in nothingness for all time.