What On Earth have I Done To My Knee ?..HELP !!...OUCH !!!

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Dear Wise Sages Of Medical Love & Guidance !

Please help ..

I was down on my knees a few weeks ago servicing a client !! (get your heads out of the gutter...they had just moved house and had no chairs so it was floor board fun !)

Anyway, ever since............... ..my left knee has been ' twanging '...I thought it was just sore from applying my weight on it as I leaned over and assumed it would go away...but it hasn't !!..If I bend my leg ..it feels as if it is being put under pressure...could it be a ligament thing ?..a tendon thing ?.........I can't tell if there is any swelling....

I have bought an elasticated knee bandage which I am wearing but do you think I may have to pay a visit to my GP ?...it's been like this for a while now and is more of a horrible throbbing ache than a shrilling piercing pain !!...could I have damaged the knee cap/patella ?

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OOUCH, so sorry about that knee! You really should have it cheked, Could you have dislocated your knee cap per chance. When you put the weight on it when you were on the floor, did you kind of roll forward motion? I had a friend that did something similar, but it ached like crazy , and got worse over time the ache, never sharp pain like you say, But he ended up with a dislocated knee cap, something like that, It wasn't broken, just somehow out of wack! The doctor fixed it and the ache went away. He said it was sore for a few days after  the docs fix!Hope you recover fully.. can't have you having bad knee problems, that would be the pits!

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OOUCH, so sorry about that knee! You really should have it cheked, Could you have dislocated your knee cap per chance. When you put the weight on it when you were on the floor, did you kind of roll forward motion? I had a friend that did something similar, but it ached like crazy , and got worse over time the ache, never sharp pain like you say, But he ended up with a dislocated knee cap, something like that, It wasn't broken, just somehow out of wack! The doctor fixed it and the ache went away. He said it was sore for a few days after  the docs fix!Hope you recover fully.. can't have you having bad knee problems, that would be the pits!

THANK YOU KAREN MAM,

I doubt very much I have dislocated it...I think I would definitely know about it !!....but YES, I did roll forward and back on it.

*le sigh* Perhaps I just bruised it inside...I hope that's all it is ! [:(]
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Get to the doc Neilsy...why suffer? 
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Is the knee swollen Neil? Does it "lock" in position at any time?

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more of a horrible throbbing ache than a shrilling piercing pain !!...could I have damaged the knee cap/patella ?


Possibly infrapatellar bursitis, a.k.a. "housemaid's knee".
http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/b/bursitis/intro.htm
« Last Edit: 27/10/2006 11:03:52 by ROBERT »

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THANK YOU ALL for your replies....

Chris..as far as I can tell it is NOT swollen (but it might be..perhaps a little).. and NO..it does NOT lock in position....which I gather is a damn good thing !!

It just feels tight when I bend my knee and the pain increases slightly...like I would imagine a stretched tendon to feel !! The good thing is that it is NOT excruciating...as I said..it's more of a dull ache which twinges every once in a while !!

..Oh..I tell you what ..I'll upload a piccy..

WARNING...picture of my KNEES !!

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LOL....My knees !!!  HA HA HA !!
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Could you have bruised the bone?
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Could you have bruised the bone?


That's certainly a possibility.....

If everyone could just lean forward and kiss it better I'd appreciate it !! [:)] [:)]

Me promises to not post other appendages for kissing requests !! [:)]
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Re: What On Earth have I Done To My Knee ?..HELP !!...OUCH !!!
« Reply #10 on: 28/10/2006 16:40:51 »
HEY NEIL< Your knee cap is swollen, take a look at your posted picture, approximately one inch above your yellow arrow! you see how your knee moves out there. check the other side of your right knee, it has no swelling there.. You can see where you had it wrapped,and there is still swelling. Wrapping an injury, usually reduces swelling so I would assume you should see the doc.. as there is definite swelling there, slightly higher then your arrow! check it out!! Then look at the other knee in the picture. It will be easer for you to tell with the picture then looking down at them!

All kissed better, now go to the Doctor!! LOL He'll fix you up and then you will at least know weather there is a real problem, or something that will heal on it's own!
« Last Edit: 28/10/2006 16:44:03 by Karen W. »

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« Reply #11 on: 28/10/2006 16:58:46 »
THANK YOU KAREN MAM,

Me don't wanna go to doctor..me just don't wanna go...no no no no....*stamps feet falls to floor has tantrum kicks out and punches air and wails and sobs like the petty girly that he is*

*le sigh*....but me not want to go !!

I've brought myself a knee supporting elasticated bandage thingy and will try that for a while...perhaps it will help reduce the inflammation....

I don't think my knee is broke !!...

Thanks for the healing kiss

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« Reply #12 on: 28/10/2006 17:17:59 »
Your welcome.. I don't think its broke either, but you certainly could have pulled a musle, but I think its probably a tendon.. they can make you feel that tight feeling.. I can see you were using your support wrap on your knee, I bet it has kept the swelling down some, but I am assuming if you leave it off, you will notice much more swelling then we can see in the picture as like I said and you just mentioned, the wrap will maybe reduce swelling.. I know a great deal reguarding swelling I am the QUEEN OF SWOLLEN ANKLES LATELY... REMEMBER.. KEEPING A WRAP ON THE AREA IS DEFINITELY GOOD... YOU PLAYED SPORTS AND KNOW THAT FOR SURE.. I AM SURE YOU HAD YOUR SHARE OF INJURIES.. HAD YOU EVER INJURED THAT KNEE WHILE INVOLVED IN SPORTS.. pERHAPS YOU REINJURED IT OR AGGITATED SOMETHING OLD.... AND I DON'T MEAN YOU...Lol So sorry, I must have hit the caps again... oh well!

hugs back, go to the Doctor Neil!
« Last Edit: 28/10/2006 17:22:34 by Karen W. »

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Re: What On Earth have I Done To My Knee ?..HELP !!...OUCH !!!
« Reply #13 on: 28/10/2006 17:31:50 »
Hi neilep,
Ok dear friendo, if you wanna play telephone diagnosis and therapy
you must consider that it is probably the first cause of death in the whole Planet.
Please sign your informed consensus form and/or cross your fingers.

http://www.medical-library.org/journals5a/lower_extremity_injuries.htm

Go to Point 1:

I. Patellofemoral pain syndrome (chondrosis, chondromalacia patella CMP1)

1. Most common PFJ problem and most common cause of knee pain, overall

C. History
1. Anterior knee pain with activity.
2. Climbing, kneeling, bending, sitting.
3. Catching, grinding, giving way.
4. Pain with prolonged sitting and getting out of a seated position "movie sign"

Treatment

1. Relieve pain: rest, or activity modification, NSAIDs, patellar sleeve or taping, corticosteroid injury, for DJD.
2. Restore strength: exercise program, PT, 3-6 months.
3. Gradual return to sports.

Natural history

1. >70% improve with rehabilitation alone
2. Life time commitment
3. Most have good days and bad days

Now I must confess that I badly hurt my left knee in Jan2003 falling sideways off my bicycle (auch!!!) on an icy yard like a stupid...I never knew what had happened to my joint (please no docs: save NHS resources for sick children! I am crazy) but it was hurting quite a lot!
Walked again in a few days, slowly for 2 months (enjoyed bus-rides), complete recover in approx. 1 year.
But you shouldn't do that...at least don't blame me afterall!
Ciao [;)]

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« Last Edit: 28/10/2006 23:11:54 by iko »

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Re: What On Earth have I Done To My Knee ?..HELP !!...OUCH !!!
« Reply #14 on: 28/10/2006 17:40:47 »
YAYYYY! IKO!!!LOL GOOD JOB!!

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« Reply #15 on: 28/10/2006 17:50:12 »
IKO is fantastic !!

THANK YOU IKO !!....and I love the fish !!!

Ok IKO !!..LOL......I will definitely go see a doctor IF by Monday there is no improvement !!

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« Reply #16 on: 28/10/2006 18:07:25 »
THANKS Neil... You will feel better! Thanks Iko!

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« Reply #17 on: 28/10/2006 23:23:51 »
I'm sorry neilep,

You're gonna miss skiing and SNOWboarding next winter!!!


...hope you'll manage all right.
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« Reply #18 on: 28/10/2006 23:43:54 »
Good for you, lots of progress have been made...


Wounded Knee 1890.
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« Last Edit: 29/10/2006 07:41:03 by iko »

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Re: What On Earth have I Done To My Knee ?..HELP !!...OUCH !!!
« Reply #19 on: 30/10/2006 04:38:48 »
kisses to the knee, the longer you wait, the more your symptoms will be exagerated....now git on to tha doc's!  LOL
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« Reply #20 on: 30/10/2006 05:21:48 »
Sent my kisses - did you get 'em?  Hope that knee feels better soon. 

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« Reply #21 on: 30/10/2006 05:22:53 »
Forgot to say.... My, what cute & hairy knees you have.

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« Reply #22 on: 30/10/2006 05:30:02 »
hehe, me too....sexy knees!
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« Reply #23 on: 30/10/2006 09:10:58 »
IKOD That is quite an old Picture, appropriate..

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« Reply #24 on: 30/10/2006 12:02:54 »
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Hi Kneelep,
have you considered that your endomorphic physique may be the cause of your knee problem,
 (and no, I'm not thinking of changing my name to Marjorie Dawes  [:)] ).
http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/littlebritain/characters/marjorie.shtml
« Last Edit: 30/10/2006 14:09:04 by ROBERT »

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« Reply #25 on: 30/10/2006 15:00:28 »
LOL !! [:D] [:D]..THANK YOU Carolyn, LO (Hi LO *giggles*) Karen for the kisses and the knee compliments !!  LOL *chuckles and is embarrassed*

IKO.
..I assume it's the horse with the wounded knee  eh ?...if so..I do not want to be what I expect was the treatment in those days !! *Bang bang*


Robert
!!..grrrrrr !!...LOL....I am as svelte and as slim as ....Oh ...Marjorie Dawes...oh Noooooooo !!!

Hey !!..how come the blokes have not kissed my knee better ?
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« Reply #26 on: 30/10/2006 15:22:46 »
 Your picture is suddenly off center what's with that! barely see the swollen area today! How is it feeling? have you called the doc! EH???

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« Reply #27 on: 30/10/2006 15:25:53 »
Your picture is suddenly off center what's with that! barely see the swollen area today! How is it feeling? have you called the doc! EH???

Really ?...it looks OK to me !..Perhaps you have inadvertently changed the display options of your PC maybe ?

It feels a little better today actually...going to see how this week pans out..Thanks Karen mam

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« Reply #28 on: 30/10/2006 16:12:46 »
Hi neilep,
...Wounded Knee was a tragic event:

http://userwww.sfsu.edu/~rhernand/Wounded%20Knee.htm
1890-
The Massacre of Wounded Knee
December 15
The Military was arresting the leaders of Indian nations and leaders of the Ghost Dance movement by 1890.  Sitting Bull was killed while soldiers attempted to arrest him on the Standing Rock reservation.  Many of Sitting Bull's people fled the reservation to Big Foot's Miniconjou Sioux village.
December 23
Big Foot and 350 of his people fled the village and headed to the Pine Ridged Agency.  The trek was in the middle of winter and would take a week and a half to walk.  They were headed for the protection of Chief Red Cloud.
December 28
The7th Calvary, under the leadership of General Miles, cornered the fleeing band on the banks of Wounded Knee Creek (Cankpe Opi).  The Sioux were ordered to discard their weapons.  They stood on the banks through the night and were told they were going to be taken to a camp.  Some of the Sioux began performing the Ghost Dance. It was at that time that firing broke out.  The first shot is still disputed. The fight that ensued was between 350 unarmed Sioux and 500 heavily armed soldiers. The casualties are also disputed, but it is believed that 300 Sioux men, women, and children were killed, along with 29 U.S. soldiers.
20 medals of honor were awarded by Congress to the soldiers of the 7th Calvary
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« Reply #29 on: 30/10/2006 16:33:20 »
people have one sided views too much.  I'm all for country loyalty and such, but I would never do that kind of thing if ordered to.
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« Reply #30 on: 31/10/2006 02:16:30 »
So Sad!

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« Reply #31 on: 31/10/2006 04:51:54 »
Your picture is suddenly off center what's with that! barely see the swollen area today! How is it feeling? have you called the doc! EH???

Maybe his swelling went down?  LOL  just kidding...

Neil you make me laugh with the lo giggles...LOL  You are welcome!
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« Reply #32 on: 31/10/2006 05:08:31 »
Hi Kneel - hope that knee continues to get better.

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« Reply #33 on: 31/10/2006 15:31:14 »
Iko's knee picture does not show the bursae, this one does:-


http://arthritis-symptom.com/medical-pictures/conditions2/bursitis-knee.htm
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« Reply #34 on: 31/10/2006 17:31:18 »
OOOH I never thought about Arthritis!!

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« Reply #35 on: 31/10/2006 18:44:06 »
Hi neilep,
you'd just been unfortunately diagnosed as a bursitic-arthritic-banged-awfully-smashed-knee patient.
We scheduled you for a bilateral double knee transplant (they go in pairs).
We'll give you some stem cells in the process...they are always good for you.
Surprisingly enough, the cheapest bargain offer is in
Wonderland County Hospital for Sick Knees (Nowhere Land).
We'll fly you there by Brian Unfair Airlines for little money (just ambulance Taxes).
No food or drinks included. Bring your own wine and anesthetics.
Please let us know your opinion and credit card number.
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Wish you a slow but constant self healing in the meantime!
Do not forget physiotherapy or some wise exercise anyway.
Take care 
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