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... otherwise an excellent engine
These emissions control systems seem to be a license for some dealers and garages to behave like charlatans and prey on the insecurity and ignorance of their customers.
and taking large numbers of lives.
I'm beginning to think this is all bunkum. There is an inherent problem when using an internal combustion engine in a road vehicle, because it can only reach maximum efficiency at one speed. No big deal in ships and planes, which cruise for hours or days at best speed, and trucks tend to have at least 14 gears so the diesel runs at 800 - 1200 rpm all the time, but not ideal for cars.So you design an engine that will burn really efficiently at say 50 mph - i.e. the quoted fuel consumption speed, faster than average speed in the UK and the legal limit for most of the USA. Now you have to get rid of the noxious emissions at other speeds, so you install a sensor that squirts Adblue into the system whenever the demand is such that it wouldn't burn efficiently. Great, problem solved. Except that a stringent emission test schedule would be designed to operate the engine at the point where it is producing most emissions. So when the chip works, the tester complains that you are cheating, and the solution suddenly becomes a problem!As usual, good science has been overruled by bad politics. And if you think the US motor industry has nothing to do with politics, your naivete knows no bounds.
What have VW actually gone on the record and admitted to doing? If the answer is as simple as Alan's synopsis, then their defence should be sound and there should be no need for the chief exec to resign...
Anyway your statstics for death certificates listing "air pollution" as cause of death will be interesting to read. The incidence of fatal bronchial disease has decreased by about 7% per year over the last decade in the UK, during which the number of diesel cars has risen from < 10% to > 50% of new sales.
If the lab is right and they emit 40 times as much Nox.. then I am surprised we arent all dead.The problem is these figures were calculated on the faked figures from car manufacturers (remember we dont know if its just VW at the moment) so we wont really know the actual impact.
I hope future generations will view the current air quality of London as little better than the bad old days when London was called, "The Smoke".
In the central valley of California when you crack a chest and look at the lungs they are not pink. They are ditchwater black from breathing that diesel crud.
Funny, that. There are hardly any diesel cars in California, or indeed anywhere in the USA. Must be the trucks and buses, but they are all made in the USA and therefore not subject to scandal!
Overall, diesels account for less than 3% of all cars sold in the U.S. That ratio could shift up to 8% or even as high as 10% by 2018, according to various projections.
QuoteFunny, that. There are hardly any diesel cars in California, or indeed anywhere in the USA. Must be the trucks and buses, but they are all made in the USA and therefore not subject to scandal!Bwaaa - hah - hah -hah !I just love it when foreigners talk thru their hat like that. They are just so damn cute!Here is a picture of a gas pump [image # 1] - as are common in every California gas station. See the green nozzle socket labelled "Diesel Fuel # 2" Those are only there in the hopes that the diesel cars and pickups which don't exist in California may suddenly (May it please the noble Gods) magically appear.Here is a description of the more commonly seen diesel pickup trucks in California [1.] You need something like this to haul your cabin cruiser to the lake or your 5th wheel toy hauler to the beach. [image # 2]Then there are the diesel tractors, tomato harvesters [ image # 3 ], and etc. for the agribusiness of the central valley.And that is why the peoples' lungs she's a turn black after you breathe the air in Fresno, Kern, King's and Tulare counties for a few years.Then there are the coccidioidomycosis spores like were eating the meninges of the poor pepper picker I shamed Merced county into treating until he decided he would rather go home to Mexico rather than get another intrathecal dose of Amphotericin.So California's central valley is no place for sissy-boys. They just might get run over by a diesel pick-up truck( that doesn't exist) while the bozo driving it is texting his babe.[1.] ...sorry, you cannot view external links. To see them, please
REGISTER or LOGINAll of which rather strongly suggests that, at least as far as the 2nd hand market is concerned, only about 2.5% of cars there are diesel.
For some reason people here often are under the misapprehension that my posts are addressed to them. That is not so.These threads are sometimes read by several thousand people - some of them can understand my warning of what lies ahead of them when they breathe that toxic caca - tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow.Where else can a retired RN do that for free?
“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”― Albert Einstein
Public Health England’s (PHE) figures suggest that PM2.5 is a major causeof disease in London, and at least as important as road accidents, communicabledisease, liver disease and suicide, and ranks up to 5th overall.-A review of recent primary epidemiological evidence on the health risks of airpollution for the City of London Corporation, including quantitative estimates of theeffects in Central London [1.]
Reducing Daily PM2.5 concentrations to the WHO guideline of 10μgm-3This could have the benefit of avoiding 37 respiratory hospital admissions in CentralLondon annually, or about 1.5% of respiratory admissions. It could reduce CVDhospitalizations by 50 per year, or about 0.7% of the 7004 annually.
To put that in the broad scots, "Why don't you people deploy some recce, open the window and see for yourselves?"
there was what, at least appeared to be, actual visible smog at the time