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What happens to anti-matter as it approaches the speed of light?

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What happens to anti-matter as it approaches the speed of light?
« on: 25/09/2015 13:37:33 »
If matter is given velocity and begins the approach the speed of light, relativistic mass increases, time slows and distances contract; special relativity. Since anti-matter is the opposite of matter, does the opposite happen?
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Re: What happens to anti-matter as it approaches the speed of light?
« Reply #1 on: 25/09/2015 14:50:06 »
No, antimatter is not the opposite of matter in every respect, only in certain properties.
Would be worth you reading up on antimatter, perhaps start with Wiki.
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Re: What happens to anti-matter as it approaches the speed of light?
« Reply #2 on: 25/09/2015 15:00:52 »
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If matter is given velocity and begins the approach the speed of light, relativistic mass increases, time slows and distances contract; special relativity. Since anti-matter is the opposite of matter, does the opposite happen?
I'm afraid that you have the wrong idea of what antimatter is. Every elementary subatomic particle has a particle which has the same mass but opposite charge,  lepton and baryon numbers and quantum spin. Which particle is antimatter is simply a matter of convention. For example: the anti-particle to the electron is the positron aka antielectron. But there's no reason why the positron couldn't be the particle and its antiparticle, the electron, would then be called the antipositron.
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Re: What happens to anti-matter as it approaches the speed of light?
« Reply #3 on: 25/09/2015 18:39:00 »
Quote from: puppypower on 25/09/2015 13:37:33
If matter is given velocity and begins the approach the speed of light, relativistic mass increases,
Correct.
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time slows and distances contract; special relativity.
Incorrect. Bad popular books.

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Re: What happens to anti-matter as it approaches the speed of light?
« Reply #4 on: 25/09/2015 22:30:01 »
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time slows and distances contract; special relativity.
Incorrect. Bad popular books.
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You're wrong on that part my friend. Please tell me why you think that it's incorrect and why popular books are wrong. See the derivation I wrote for rods which are parallel to the x-axis and when the rod is not parallel to the axis at:

http://home.comcast.net/~peter.m.brown/sr/lorentz_contraction.htm
http://home.comcast.net/~peter.m.brown/sr/lorentz_contraction_2.htm


This is simply Lorentz contraction and find it hard to believe that you don't accept special relativity. In my experience with you I always recall that you've always been
You recall length contraction from special relativity don't you? So long as he's talking about distances parallel to lengths parallel to the direction of the axis which is parallel to the direction that he's moving parallel to then he's to then he's correct to then he's correct to then he's right. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Length_contraction
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Re: What happens to anti-matter as it approaches the speed of light?
« Reply #5 on: 26/09/2015 01:11:16 »
Quote from: PmbPhy on 25/09/2015 22:30:01
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time slows and distances contract; special relativity.
Incorrect. Bad popular books.
You're wrong on that part my friend. Please tell me why you think that it's incorrect and why popular books are wrong.
1) "Time slows" is incorrect because "time" flows always with the same speed. What changes is the time interval between two events, if measured in two different frames of reference. It's very different from saying "time slows". If time slowed going fast, then both an astronaut and a man on Earth should experience the same slowing of time, since both goes fast with respect to the other...
2) "Distances contract". Written this way seems that objects are compressed as if they were pressed when they go fast, but it's not: the spaceship is not demolished by its velocity. And the same objections of 1) is valid: if the spaceship is contracted with respect to Earth, then the Earth is contracted with respect to the spaceship. Which of the two is really contracted? We still have to compare distance between two different events, in two different frames of reference, otherwise the OP statements are totally meaningless.

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Re: What happens to anti-matter as it approaches the speed of light?
« Reply #6 on: 26/09/2015 02:41:08 »
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1) "Time slows" is incorrect because "time" flows always with the same speed. What changes is the time interval between two events, if measured in two different frames of reference. It's very different from saying "time slows". If time slowed going fast, then both an astronaut and a man on Earth should experience the same slowing of time, since both goes fast with respect to the other...
2) "Distances contract". Written this way seems that objects are compressed as if they were pressed when they go fast, but it's not: the spaceship is not demolished by its velocity. And the same objections of 1) is valid: if the spaceship is contracted with respect to Earth, then the Earth is contracted with respect to the spaceship. Which of the two is really contracted? We still have to compare distance between two different events, in two different frames of reference, otherwise the OP statements are totally meaningless.
When someone is speaking of time dilation or length contraction and they don't explicitly mention the frame of reference it happens relative to then its always assumed, just like we assume there is a frame of reference implicit in a conversation in which we're talking about velocity. Merely saying that distance doesn't contract is very misleading.
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Re: What happens to anti-matter as it approaches the speed of light?
« Reply #7 on: 26/09/2015 07:46:52 »
Quote from: PmbPhy on 26/09/2015 02:41:08
Quote from: lightarrow
1) "Time slows" is incorrect because "time" flows always with the same speed. What changes is the time interval between two events, if measured in two different frames of reference. It's very different from saying "time slows". If time slowed going fast, then both an astronaut and a man on Earth should experience the same slowing of time, since both goes fast with respect to the other...
2) "Distances contract". Written this way seems that objects are compressed as if they were pressed when they go fast, but it's not: the spaceship is not demolished by its velocity. And the same objections of 1) is valid: if the spaceship is contracted with respect to Earth, then the Earth is contracted with respect to the spaceship. Which of the two is really contracted? We still have to compare distance between two different events, in two different frames of reference, otherwise the OP statements are totally meaningless.
When someone is speaking of time dilation or length contraction and they don't explicitly mention the frame of reference it happens relative to then its always assumed, just like we assume there is a frame of reference implicit in a conversation in which we're talking about velocity. Merely saying that distance doesn't contract is very misleading.
Not only the frame of reference must be specified, but also the fact we are talking of a couple of *events*, as I wrote.
Not specifying all these things is as misleading as writing "hot water freezes faster than cold water" without specifying that some hot water vaporizes when you put it in the fridge, or that a body's energy is m*c2 without specifying that this is only true when the object is stationary, etc.

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