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Geiger counter does not detect electrons then why would it detect protons?
Would Chadwick interpret the results not in favor to Rutherford's hypothetical Nucleus?
Geiger–Müller tube does not detect electrons
Quote from: mathew_orman on 05/10/2015 12:31:55Geiger–Müller tube does not detect electrons All but one of mine do. What's wrong with yours? Try using a thinner window.
Also, how would a positive charged hypothetical proton escape sea of valence electrons in paraffin molecular structure of atoms?
escape sea of valence electrons?
I use a militarised thin-window geiger (RamGene) ...
In this case the observed facts are entirely consistent with the hypothesis that most of the mass of the atom is concentrated in a very small region, to be sure, but they are equally consistent with the hypothesis that all of the mass is concentrated in this region; in other words, that this is the atom, not the nucleus of the atom.
http://dev.physicslab.org/Document.aspx?doctype=3&filename=AtomicNuclear_ChadwickNeutron.xmlGeiger counter does not detect electrons then why would it detect protons?
The Geiger counter, is an instrument used for measuring ionizing radiation used widely in such applications as radiation dosimetry, radiological protection, experimental physics and the nuclear industry.It detects ionizing radiation such as alpha particles, beta particles and gamma rays using the ionization effect produced in a Geiger–Müller tube; which gives its name to the instrument.  In wide and prominent use as a hand-held radiation survey instrument, it is perhaps one of the world's best-known radiation detection instruments.
It is not my model which fails here...It is fantasy wishful thinking assuming that electron will orbit a nucleus in Hydrogen atom...Simple simulation shows that even if the electron is placed on a orbit then any external force however small will make it ether fly away or bind to the hypothetical nucleus...
and cannot get any closer to the nucleus
It is fantasy wishful thinking assuming that electron will orbit a nucleus in Hydrogen atom...
Quote from: mathew_orman on 06/10/2015 13:01:54It is fantasy wishful thinking assuming that electron will orbit a nucleus in Hydrogen atom...Which is why nobody has used that model for the last 90 years. The valence shell model, a development of the Bohr atom, is adequate for most inorganic chemistry and for categorising spectra, but the quantum orbital model is necessary for stereochemistry. Alas, the "logic of continuity of motion" is an intellectual vanity, not an observed property of atomic physics. Vanity is dangerous.