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Quote from: Thebox on 03/11/2015 16:42:38Then we can work out distances and speeds etc. Not until you have defined a unit of length.
Then we can work out distances and speeds etc.
They did using sun dials and circles , 86400/360=240 that is where 24 hrs comes from. One full circle divided up into increments. Even the hour clock finger travels a circle of distance equal to the earths spin.
Quote from: Thebox on 03/11/2015 16:55:03They did using sun dials and circles , 86400/360=240 that is where 24 hrs comes from. One full circle divided up into increments. Even the hour clock finger travels a circle of distance equal to the earths spin.You are confusing yourself. Solar time is measured by angle, not distance. A person on the equator travels about 25,000 miles per day. A person in Oslo travels about 8000 miles in the same time, and a person at the North Pole doesn't move at all, but their solar clocks are identical because their angular velocities are identical.
distance is used to measure time whether it be by angle or anything else,
Quote from: Thebox on 05/11/2015 08:27:55 distance is used to measure time whether it be by angle or anything else,Nonsense. Distance and angle are not the same. Prehistoric Man knew this when he built Stonehenge and similar trade calendars around the world: it take exactly the same time (one year) for the dawn sun to reappear at a given angle, regardless of latitude, but the distance travelled in that time can vary from zero to 8,760,000 miles depending on where you are.By your arithmetic, 8,760,000 = 0, but our neolithic ancestors had a better grip on reality.
You are wrong. Henges, pyramids, pendulums and cesium atoms only have one reference point. Timekeeping is about repetition, not amplitude. (Unless you are a drummer - a joke as old as music itself.)How you count or divide that repetition is entirely arbitrary. There are no degrees on a digital clock, and the markings on a sundial are not evenly spaced.
An interesting affect, that appears to show the equivalence of time and distance, is found in photography. This is called motion blur. Motion blur is when the shutter speed of the camera is slower than the action speed. Since time is stopped in the final photo, and the speed difference is conserved; appears as the motion blur, time appears as uncertainty in distant. The motion blur or uncertainty in distance gives the brain the impression of motion, even with time stopped in the photo. Heisenberg Uncertainty may be an example of more general affect based on the conversion of time potential to distance potential. This is not an artifact of measuring. In the photo below, if we look at the cycler we can see his position, but we can't tell his momentum, because he looks stationary. The scenery, on the other hand, appears to have momentum, but the motion blur make it hard to tell an exact position. Since time is not considered a physical thing of tangible substance, when space-time contracts or expands only the imagination is moving. Since motion blur can trigger the imagination to give us the feeling of movement, with time=stopped, these two imaginary things are connected. In fact, motion blur suggests that space can stem from time; conservation.
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Life is actually a lot simpler than you want it to be. I'll leave you to wallow in selfinduced complexity.