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Offline realmswalker

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« on: 21/12/2006 00:34:11 »
i can prove to you that i must be god.
It is based on an idea presented by the philosopher Thomas Reid.
He said that all reason and logic and our ideas abut reality are based on certain unprovable but assumed to be true doctrines.
For example, the doctrine that 1 + 1 = 2 is not necessarily true, but we accept it as true, the only reason we say it is an un arguable true fact is that all the world accepts it as true.
The only being which knows what is true exactly is, according to reid, "God".
All of what God says and believes therefore is undeniably true and correct, where as our beliefs are possibly true, possibly false.
If god were to say that 1 + 1 = 3, then , as hard as it is to imagine,the world's populous would have to believe that if you had one apple and got another, you would have 3 apples.

Of course this would conflict with other assumed-to-be-true doctrines, like the idea of what 2 is, what 3 is, and how valid their senses are (they might be incorrectly perceiving the number of apples with their eyes, for example) .
The fact that 1 + 1 = 3 was from god (and therefore true by definition) would force them to reevaluate and discredit other assumed to be true doctrines in order to accept that fact.

Now, what if i choose as one of my assumed-to-be-true doctrines the fact that I am god.
If i assumed that as true, all my other perceptions would have to be true as well, because god is correct in all things.
Your perceptions might be incorrect, and  ARE incorrect if they disagree with mine, because i am god.
No matter what point you try to bring up to prove that i am not god, i can discredit it by the fact that your perception is flawed. If you tell me "Ok, if your god make this rock into gold" i will, however you wont necessarily perceive it as such. I could make you perceive it as such, but then you might be flawed in your idea of what gold is.
See my point? You cannot prove that i am not God, any logic saying so is flawed.


 

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« Reply #1 on: 21/12/2006 00:51:40 »
Like it !!..very clever !

This is why negotiation with people who believe that what they are doing is by gods will is futile. You can't negotiate or expect people with such a fundamental perspective to consider that there may be alternative ways of thinking...because...they are doing what they are doing in the name of God...so..how can they be doing the wrong thing ?

Thank you Realmswalker...good stuff.

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« Reply #2 on: 21/12/2006 02:16:36 »
Doctor Beaver claimed this last spring and went away for a little "vacation" at a "friends" house for a couple of months. He has been much better since.

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For example, the doctrine that 1 + 1 = 2 is not necessarily true, but we accept it as true, the only reason we say it is an un arguable true fact is that all the world accepts it as true.

No. This is false. Logic demands that 'true' be proven by a repeatable test. one apple and one apple always equal 2 by the definition of the numbers in the system of logic called arithmatic.

 
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« Reply #3 on: 21/12/2006 02:24:21 »
yes you could be god!
but, i think flying spaghetti monster is more likely god!!! ahhaa


yeah this is what richard dawkins has been saying...
you can't disprove the existance of any god

hey i could be god too  [:)]
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« Reply #4 on: 21/12/2006 02:42:29 »
Hi Everyone.

God here.

I don't exist.

Bye for now.
It's tough not existing !!

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« Reply #5 on: 21/12/2006 03:07:57 »
OH GOD PLEASE :)

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« Reply #6 on: 21/12/2006 05:38:58 »
Doctor Beaver claimed this last spring and went away for a little "vacation" at a "friends" house for a couple of months. He has been much better since.

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For example, the doctrine that 1 + 1 = 2 is not necessarily true, but we accept it as true, the only reason we say it is an un arguable true fact is that all the world accepts it as true.

No. This is false. Logic demands that 'true' be proven by a repeatable test. one apple and one apple always equal 2 by the definition of the numbers in the system of logic called arithmatic.

 
but my point is that the logic system called arithmetic might be flawed, or your perception of the results of a repeatable test could be flawed. You are stuck believing that you know things which are absolutely true, thats where you are wrong. You think you know things as absolutely true, the things you know and think are not absolutely true. Mine are.
 

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« Reply #7 on: 21/12/2006 05:45:48 »
God thanks for the visit!! Come back when you can stay longer!LOL

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« Reply #8 on: 21/12/2006 07:15:47 »
Dear God,

I know you say you don't exist...so that would mean my prayer would not be answered by a nonexistent God...or no answer would that mean it was answered?

Amen!
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« Reply #9 on: 21/12/2006 17:42:00 »
Dear God,

I know you say you don't exist...so that would mean my prayer would not be answered by a nonexistent God...or no answer would that mean it was answered?

Amen!

Now that's just confusing !!

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« Reply #10 on: 21/12/2006 18:31:09 »
yes you could be god!
but, i think flying spaghetti monster is more likely god!!! ahhaa


yeah this is what richard dawkins has been saying...
you can't disprove the existance of any god

hey i could be god too  [:)]

My flying monkeys would destroy your flying spaghetti monster so there  [;D] [^]
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Re: I am God
« Reply #11 on: 21/12/2006 20:59:04 »
yes you could be god!
but, i think flying spaghetti monster is more likely god!!! ahhaa


yeah this is what richard dawkins has been saying...
you can't disprove the existance of any god

hey i could be god too  [:)]

My flying monkeys would destroy your flying spaghetti monster so there  [;D] [^]
How do you know i am not simultaneously a spaghetti monster and flying monkeys?
 

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Re: I am God
« Reply #12 on: 22/12/2006 21:28:41 »
yes you could be god!
but, i think flying spaghetti monster is more likely god!!! ahhaa


yeah this is what richard dawkins has been saying...
you can't disprove the existance of any god

hey i could be god too  [:)]

My flying monkeys would destroy your flying spaghetti monster so there  [;D] [^]
How do you know i am not simultaneously a spaghetti monster and flying monkeys?

Well you wouldn't taste or smell very nice  [;)]
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« Reply #13 on: 23/12/2006 00:50:24 »
how do you know I'm not simultaneously realmswalker, flying spaghetti monster, flying monkeys, AND GOD!

...and ARIEL!
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« Reply #14 on: 01/01/2007 17:12:02 »
 You can also not prove that I am not you. As a matter of fact, I am you. This makes you me. Talk to yourself, talk to other people, there is no difference. Hate other people, hate yourself, there is no difference. Pick a path, any path, all paths lead to the same source.

You are right, you are God. We're all God, but much more aptly described as aspects of God. What you must see is that Life does not give rise to conscious awareness, so that Life can grow and be enhanced. Consciously aware existence gives birth to Life so that consciously aware existence can grow and be enhanced. Science, religion, indeed EVERYTHING exists so that consciously aware existence, God, may expand, grow, thrive, enhance itself.

 God is available to every one of us, it is our brithright, and you need only to ask God whatever questions you have. Who can really say they have asked God to explain the meaning of your Life? If you have, you already know the answer. Most ask only when in dire circumstances, and never really commit to any process to those answers. Why not ask whatever it is you want to know, and wait for God to answer? Christian, Mulsim, Hindu, Buddhist, atheist, capatalist, whatever-ist or -ism you choose to be, just sincerely ask the questions and sincerely expect an answer from God, whatever the answer is. Then follow it. 
 

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« Reply #15 on: 01/01/2007 20:30:06 »
am I me ?
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« Reply #16 on: 01/01/2007 20:41:19 »
HEE HEE HEE!!!

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« Reply #17 on: 01/01/2007 20:42:12 »
HEE HEE HEE!!!

Sometimes I really do not know !!..LOL
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« Reply #18 on: 01/01/2007 20:44:38 »
HEE HEE HEE!!!

Sometimes I really do not know !!..LOL

Me thinks you are not alone in this! LOL!

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« Reply #19 on: 03/01/2007 13:55:59 »
Doctor Beaver claimed this last spring and went away for a little "vacation" at a "friends" house for a couple of months. He has been much better since.
 

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« Reply #20 on: 03/01/2007 21:24:41 »
Doctor Beaver claimed this last spring and went away for a little "vacation" at a "friends" house for a couple of months. He has been much better since.
 

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« Reply #21 on: 04/01/2007 14:23:42 »
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« Reply #22 on: 04/01/2007 22:36:10 »
OK, OK!

I bow down before the almighty, offering sincere obsequiousness, fawnings, sycophantic utterances in hushed, holy, reverential tones, seeking mercy.

Forgive me oh, Castor, for I know not what I did!
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« Reply #23 on: 11/01/2007 14:29:02 »
Would that be Castor'Oil?  LOL
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« Reply #24 on: 06/02/2007 18:43:07 »
wtf is going on? lol
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« Reply #25 on: 06/02/2007 22:42:46 »
What's all this about casting !! ?..I thought this thread was about god stuff....not fishing !!
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« Reply #26 on: 06/02/2007 23:39:05 »
God was a fisher of men!!!!

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« Reply #27 on: 07/02/2007 00:26:12 »
God was a fisher of men!!!!

really....what did he use for bait ?..Marylin Monroe ?  [;D]
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« Reply #28 on: 07/02/2007 01:37:51 »
 YOU are too funny! No I thinks you would use Marilyn..LOL LOL!

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« Reply #29 on: 25/02/2007 02:06:08 »
I have never heard so much crap in all my life you 1.  you misunderstand that this references to language. 2 now is shown as the symbol 3 but you still just have 2, = 1+1. dont care how many times god tells me I have 3/1+1+1, I know I have 2/1+1. weather you say three or two its the same both mean 1+1. this entire theory requires untrue assumptions. God made us free so if we're free how then could he make 2 a 3, to do so would change our ability to question weather we had 2 or 3 and we would lose our freedom to think for ourselves. Also you seem to think that god is all knowing, if she/he made us in her/his image-then if we dont know it all, why assume god does? you are not god! your the bloody devil. Filling the world with lies and rubbish, need some more bin men to clear away the crap you come up with. If you are god then prove it. actually you dont need to you claim tobe god and claim that god knows all, you clearly dont so by your own silly theory your not god, please grow up. you have a soul which connects you to god that dosnt make you god. Sorry I know you were joking but some **** might think that theory is real.lol   
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