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... humans can change sex orientation at their own will.
Quote from: tkadm30 on 09/12/2015 12:54:39... humans can change sex orientation at their own will.If that were true why do gay people persist with their sexual-orientation despite all the pressure* they are under to go straight ? . Given the persecution & punishment which comes with being gay, no-one would choose homosexuality.
... humans can change sex orientation at their own will
... 3% reported changing their orientation to heterosexual ...
Sex is a choice one makes in the teen years when the tools develop.
Not true, a persons sex is biological not a choice they can make.
... Homosexuality is not genetic. It is a choice made by free will ...
Is paraphilia also "a choice made by free will" ? : why would anyone choose bizarre/dangerous/impractical/illegal sexual-activities ? . Answer: they don't have a choice about their orientation : it's biological, ( but not necessarily genetic ).
There's nothing biological in homosexuality; It is a sexual orientation driven by nature.
bi·o·log·i·caladj.1. Of, relating to, caused by, or affecting life or living organisms
Are you saying nature isn't biological. If biology doesn't determine the nature of living things, then what does ?
... Homosexuality isn't natural ...
Homosexuality is not the norm, but it occurs in nature, therefore it is natural.
Maybe you should stick to your specialist subject, or even better take your business elsewhere.
The correlation between fraternal-birth-order and sexual-orientation shows male-homosexuality can have a biological origin ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraternal_birth_order_and_male_sexual_orientation
Is being gay genetic? We don't know, from a science perspective, at present, as far as I'm aware.
In my opinion, one will become homosexual, since newborns, babies and children do not have sex. Sex is a choice one makes in the teen years when the tools develop. Someone who likes internet porn does not have this propensity from birth, since genetics are ancient and conservative, while computers and internet are too new for this to be engraved on the DNA. Sex is one of the most pleasurable things to do and has an instinctive imperative, so the ends can often justify the means. It is not unusual for a male child to be more feminine or a female child to be more masculine; Tomboy. This can happen when children of the opposite sex better relate to the parents or siblings, and friends of the opposite sex. It is not also unusual for a child to pretend they are a solider, a dancer, a fireman, race car driver, etc. But as they get older, some children continue to dream, while others change with the demands of life. If you have a nurturing environment which helps you keep a childhood dream alive, one may continue to pursue that dream into adulthood. If you have unconditional love to support a dream; mother, then unpractical dreams will linger too long. The high rate of suicide and addiction in gay men seems to suggest many are at odds with themselves. Culture has the highest acceptance of all time so this should have reversed, yet it persists. This can happen if a dream is assumed to reflect reality but is contrary to the DNA. The unconscious mind will attempt to restore natural balance with this push undermining the fantasy. There will be hole in their psyche. For example, if a person thinks they are the best dancer and they pursue this into adulthood, due to a loving coach, but can never quite dance properly but keeps trying to satisfy the fantasy, they will become more and more depressed and subject to supplemental behavior, to make up for the gap that is forming. If you look at homosexuality in terms of evolution, this form of sexual behavior cannot procreate. If we assume Darwin and modern evolution is correct, there is no way to pass forward homosexual genes connected to sex. This is not to say that the homosexual personality, beyond sex, cannot have a positive impact on others. That is passed forward, through the mind and not through genetics. A person with dreams can have a positive impact on others, due to their enthusiasm, but when the dream is at odds with the DNA, there is a backlash; overcompensation.
they don't have a choice about their orientation
they don't have a choice about their orientation : it's biological
Most behaviors are an interaction of multiple genes (each with a small contribution) and the environment. There are many theories about heritability of homosexual behavior, and some actually claim to have evidence to back them up.
I vaguely recall one reported case that did seem to be traceable to a single gene. Since mosquitoes take on the external temperature, raising the temperature above a threshold caused mosquitoes carrying this gene to switch their attention to a different pheromone, and back when the temperature was reduced. Effectively, they became temperature-dependent homosexuals. (Unfortunately, I can't find a reference to the report, which makes me suspect my recollection...)
here is a single-gene trigger in fruit-flies, also in pheromone processing:http://www.livescience.com/2094-homosexuality-turned-fruit-flies.html
In the case of boys this is similar in nature to the mother developing an alergic syndrome that affects feotal development. Other factors include the mixture of hormones and what proportions they are at certain periods of development. I came across the information a few years ago now so I don't have references to hand.
I can find more if you require.
None of the links I posted suggested a genetic link but that during development of the feotus there are factors which determine variables such as finger length and brain structure. You appear to be fixated on the answer you believe to be true without following ALL the references supplied. Cherry picking is not scientific.
OK So you are one of those people who think gay people can be "cured". Please correct me if I am wrong. Usually this mean ultra orthodox religious views.
It's not a 'preference', it's a part of who they are. That much is fact and certain
The important part to know though is that they are people just as much as those with standard orientations
Quote from: IAMREALITY on 11/07/2016 16:02:29It's not a 'preference', it's a part of who they are. That much is fact and certainYou are wrong - unequivocally. You'd need an elementary understanding of physiology for your statement to hold any merit. "It's part of who they are" means nothing from a physiological or scientific aspect. Sexual orientation is in fact a preference which is not predetermined - but adopted during childhood development or as an adult. Pick up a textbook.~
Quote from: IAMREALITY on 11/07/2016 16:02:29The important part to know though is that they are people just as much as those with standard orientationsNo... it's not "the important part to know" This is a science forum. Did you happen to catch the thread tittle?Is homosexuality genetic?Save your moral speeches for some other forum please. Your comments are utterly void of scientific context, and have no bearing on the topic in question.~
It is their core identity. They do not 'choose' that identity.
That much is certain and isn't even up for debate.
It's absolutely the most important part to know, science forum or otherwise. And I'll present my moral speeches anywhere I damn well please, and will not seek your permission to do so. And if you cared about science so much, you'd actually rely on it. 1-2% of those who have gone through conversion therapy succeeded. Pretty sure if it was a 'preference' that number would be, ya know, higher and stuff... Anyway, not even gonna debate this issue with you. I find your position to be disgusting, shameful and hurtful to the community, along with some others replies here. But like I said, it isn't even up for debate. It is part of who they are at their core, biologically. It is not a choice. It is not a preference. It is not something learned. Period. Fact. Shame on those who want to claim otherwise. Just friggin disgusting.