[Space Flow]

Time is constant, it flows at a constant rate, to record time the recording also has to record at a constant rate.  We are not using atomic camcorders, we are using standard camcorders.

Standard camcorders have electronic or crystal lock timing circuits to operate by otherwise they can not time a constant FPS rate. They are just another atomic clock. A timing device. The crystal vibrating at a set rate is divided down to give you your 24 exposures every second. If you went into the specs, it is quite likely that the timing accuracy is stated, in parts per trillion. Dependent on their own internal timing circuit.
They are just another clock.

So you predict that two timing mechanisms, properly calibrated  running on exactly the same recording settings will take exactly the same observed time as observed by both frames of reference, even if one is accelerated to the almost the speed of light while recording.
Is that my lesson? Now that to me from my limited knowledge is the Newtonian view of time.
Is that what you want me to learn that time and therefore the Universe is Newtonian?

[guest39538]

Time is constant, it flows at a constant rate, to record time the recording also has to record at a constant rate.  We are not using atomic camcorders, we are using standard camcorders.

Standard camcorders have electronic or crystal lock timing circuits to operate by otherwise they can not time a constant FPS rate. They are just another atomic clock. A timing device. The crystal vibrating at a set rate is divided down to give you your 24 exposures every second. If you went into the specs, it is quite likely that the timing accuracy is stated, in parts per trillion. Dependent on their own internal timing circuit.
They are just another clock.

So you predict that two timing mechanisms, properly calibrated  running on exactly the same recording settings will take exactly the same observed time as observed by both frames of reference, even if one is accelerated to the almost the speed of light while recording.
Is that my lesson? Now that to me from my limited knowledge is the Newtonian view of time.
Is that what you want me to learn that time and therefore the Universe is Newtonian?

I never knew Newton did time, but nether mind, if Newton says the rate of time can't change, then yes all good.

[Space Flow]

Quote from: Thebox on 11 February 2016, 22:32:20
You measure time by various means, so how do you conceive that the rate of the clock affects what you are measuring?

Thebox please just stop it. You have repeatably been told by a large number of people that it is only you that claims that this is what everyone else is saying.
WE consistently write one thing and you consistently read another.
That is not good communication skills.

Now take out some paper and write 100 times;
"Nobody conceives that the rate of the clock affects what is being measured".

Quote from: Thebox on 11 February 2016, 22:32:20
I will stop it when you stop calling it a time dilation.?

So it is clear as you just stated that you are intentionally and deliberately intending to misquote anything I say.
I have tried to communicate with you mr Box.
But this is it. No more communication attempts from me.
It is one thing to be misunderstood for whatever reasons. When you make a statement like above, you declare yourself as a deliberate liar.
I can not stand liars.

Good bye.

[guest39538]

Quote from: Thebox on 11 February 2016, 22:32:20
You measure time by various means, so how do you conceive that the rate of the clock affects what you are measuring?

Thebox please just stop it. You have repeatably been told by a large number of people that it is only you that claims that this is what everyone else is saying.
WE consistently write one thing and you consistently read another.
That is not good communication skills.

Now take out some paper and write 100 times;
"Nobody conceives that the rate of the clock affects what is being measured".

Quote from: Thebox on 11 February 2016, 22:32:20
I will stop it when you stop calling it a time dilation.?

So it is clear as you just stated that you are intentionally and deliberately intending to misquote anything I say.
I have tried to communicate with you mr Box.
But this is it. No more communication attempts from me.
It is one thing to be misunderstood for whatever reasons. When you make a statement like above, you declare yourself as a deliberate liar.
I can not stand liars.

Good bye.

Gave you all the info you needed did I? 

[Colin2B]

Gave you all the info you needed did I?

You gave him more than enough to enable an accurate judgement.

[guest39538]

Gave you all the info you needed did I?

You gave him more than enough to enable an accurate judgement.

You could never make an accurate judgement without seeing my hand expressions and gestures.  And people seem to forget that I do have a life and have to try to fit  science in has fast as I can, I'm always rushing, sometimes I get word tied ,  a bit like tongue twisted.

[Ethos_]

You could never make an accurate judgement without seeing my hand expressions and gestures. 

Send us a video...............................

[guest39538]

You could never make an accurate judgement without seeing my hand expressions and gestures. 

Send us a video...............................

Lol dude, I would gladly do a video if I had a narrative voice, I hate my own voice , accents is a killer.