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« Reply #13460 on: 30/05/2011 23:59:52 »
Semen, Laurac. Good question. Pyropeach posted on the previous page that non-sperm-semen is not quite "regen", but the 'buildup' still feels the same as in the semen-with-sperm days. As does the concomitant POIS low-to-high severity.
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« Reply #13461 on: 31/05/2011 02:00:33 »
Quote from: demografx on 30/05/2011 15:23:33
I would love to study the biological semen regeneration process. That just MAY possibly be the path to a full POIS cure - for some of us!!

Maybe Pyropeach will help me/others take the lazy way out and teach us here? [:)]

Demo, you never fail to flatter....lol  I encourage everyone to lookup anything and everything about semen regeneration, or more accurately I'd say, semen-glands regeneration. 
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« Reply #13462 on: 31/05/2011 03:09:27 »
in the past when i healed i felt this fullness you are talking about, i go in the shower and i have to keep testicles away from the spray of the water because it was pain when the water hits. Any other time while in pois  i didnt have that problem. lately i dont get that fullness feeling anymore, i think i have experimented tomuch, but i still have the ability to heal.
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« Reply #13463 on: 31/05/2011 04:19:43 »
Quote from: Animus on 30/05/2011 00:37:20
Quote from: Pharaoh on 29/05/2011 04:09:49
  Also, having seen Animus on TLC, I concluded that this illness must be "triggered" by something.  Animus seemed to be healthy, and after one night, he began to have POIS.  That is, he was NOT allergic to his sperm until that night.   


Hi Pharaoh,
I just wanted to make a quick clarification that video took a liberty there in saying that it happened overnight. It actually happened over the course of three months that I developed the illness. It was caused I believe by an herbal male enhancement supplement I was taking. It is true I was completely healthy before taking the supplements.
Thank you.

Thanks for clarifying that Animus. 

I recently discovered that my family has a history of hormonal disorders.  My grandmother and her 3 daughters, including my mother all had hypothyroidism.  They all underwent surgery to correct it.  Also, their brother, my uncle, had a growth hormone deficiency (pituitary gland disorder).  My youngest brother has an autoimmune disease that requires he take prednisone.   I'm speculating that the adrenal gland maybe malfunctioning.  Following an O, I suffer a complete crash.  Not just figuratively, but literally.  I nearly pass out on the couch or bed.  My hear rate remains elevated for up to 1 hour after the event.  It seems this maybe related to a release of excess cortisol (the "allergic" reaction), while the counterbalancing effect of DHEA production is insufficient or excessively delayed. 

Btw, would anyone be so kind as to send me a copy of Dr. Waldinger's latest paper? 

Thanks.
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« Reply #13464 on: 31/05/2011 04:34:36 »
My reaction to POIS is different.  Day 1 is almost non-existent to me, it is I'd say 85% better of what it used to be 2 years ago after recognizing this disease, just day 0, where I feel an incredible rush of energy.  But a very bad rush feeling.  Like some of you who seem to pass out after O, it's the opposite for me.  I'm way tooooo hyped.  And get that crappy POIS sickness regeneration feeling.  And it's also weird that I seem to sleep my best the days when I O?  Or maybe thats just a coincidence.  I also notice that if i stay up to 5 am, i actually get tired and sleep.  I feel more refreshed if I sleep from 5am onwards, than start at a normal time, say 10 pm.  Weird... [xx(]
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« Reply #13465 on: 31/05/2011 10:48:55 »
From: http://www.bbc.co.uk/health/physical_health/conditions/in_depth/allergies/allergicmedical_treatments.shtml

Treating allergies:
1) Desensitisation immunotherapy
2) Effective symptom relief
3) Treating inflammation
4) Monoclonal antibodies
5) DNA vaccines

One of the most exciting developments in medical science this century is the so-called biological agents, or monoclonal antibodies.
Patients with allergies have increased blood levels of the antibody IgE, which triggers mast cells to release histamine and other inflammatory mediators. If the effect of IgE is blocked, the allergic reaction is stopped in its tracks.
Humanised monoclonal antibody proteins cling to free immunoglobulin IgE in the bloodstream and render it inactive, preventing allergies from developing.
They also stick to the activation areas on mast cells preventing IgE from attaching, as well as reducing the overall manufacture of IgE in the body.
The monoclonal antibody omalizumab is available as a treatment for asthma and rhinitis. Similar monoclonal antibodies can be used to prevent food allergic reactions by blocking the effect of IgE.
These wonder proteins have a general 'calming' effect on many forms of inflammation, including arthritis, colitis and skin diseases.
As with any new drug, they're expensive. They also have to be given by injection - being proteins, they'd be digested and rendered inactive if taken orally.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monoclonal_antibody_therapy

You you want to reply to this, I have posted this on the POIS forum.
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« Reply #13466 on: 31/05/2011 15:56:37 »
The nature.com article was discussed on this forum before.
I bought it and, apart from the first paragraph that talks about the urinary thing (I can't remember they are in Dr W's papers, or are they?) it is a summary of Dr W. papers.
I can send it to you if you PM me your mail. I am not going to post as there may be rights on.

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« Reply #13467 on: 31/05/2011 18:18:33 »
hi friends had terrible 2 weeks..this 2 weeks i had many O's and i paid for it.the whole 2 weeks i was screwed up with pois...but this time i had experienced some new things..

1.i almost did not have O for almost 2 months..but when i had it it was frequent around 4-5 times in 2 weeks...i noticed that i got pain in my left testicule which is still there even after my last O that was 4 days back.

2.this time i tried having fenugreek seeds while i was suffering from pois but i noticed that it made me very aggressive though it helped me a little in my confidence but i used to get very hyper and angry on people...this thing i have never noticed before...
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« Reply #13468 on: 31/05/2011 18:49:34 »
Quote from: CCconfucius on 31/05/2011 03:09:27
in the past when i healed i felt this fullness you are talking about, i go in the shower and i have to keep testicles away from the spray of the water because it was pain when the water hits. Any other time while in pois  i didnt have that problem. lately i dont get that fullness feeling anymore, i think i have experimented tomuch, but i still have the ability to heal.

When I get that "fullness" below, it's selling, inflamation, includes everything from the testicles to the prostate.

For me anyways, it's not a fullness of being full of sperm.

Even on the contrary. Once my session is terminated and I'm ready to look my wifey in the eye, "down there" is probably more normal sized, than ever. Until I look her in the eyes.... [;D][;D]
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« Reply #13469 on: 31/05/2011 19:57:37 »
Quote from: rock27 on 31/05/2011 15:56:37
The nature.com article was discussed on this forum before.
I bought it and, apart from the first paragraph that talks about the urinary thing (I can't remember they are in Dr W's papers, or are they?) it is a summary of Dr W. papers.
I can send it to you if you PM me your mail. I am not going to post as there may be rights on.




VERY sorry, Rock, I simply forgot that you were the FIRST who brought it to my attention!

Thanks again!!!
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« Reply #13470 on: 31/05/2011 20:11:12 »
Quote from: horizon on 31/05/2011 10:48:55
From: http://www.bbc.co.uk/health/physical_health/conditions/in_depth/allergies/allergicmedical_treatments.shtml

Treating allergies:
1) Desensitisation immunotherapy
2) Effective symptom relief
3) Treating inflammation
4) Monoclonal antibodies
5) DNA vaccines

One of the most exciting developments in medical science this century is the so-called biological agents, or monoclonal antibodies.
Patients with allergies have increased blood levels of the antibody IgE, which triggers mast cells to release histamine and other inflammatory mediators. If the effect of IgE is blocked, the allergic reaction is stopped in its tracks.
Humanised monoclonal antibody proteins cling to free immunoglobulin IgE in the bloodstream and render it inactive, preventing allergies from developing.
They also stick to the activation areas on mast cells preventing IgE from attaching, as well as reducing the overall manufacture of IgE in the body.
The monoclonal antibody omalizumab is available as a treatment for asthma and rhinitis. Similar monoclonal antibodies can be used to prevent food allergic reactions by blocking the effect of IgE.
These wonder proteins have a general 'calming' effect on many forms of inflammation, including arthritis, colitis and skin diseases.
As with any new drug, they're expensive. They also have to be given by injection - being proteins, they'd be digested and rendered inactive if taken orally.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monoclonal_antibody_therapy

You you want to reply to this, I have posted this on the POIS forum.

Thanks, horizon!
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« Reply #13471 on: 31/05/2011 23:38:35 »
I know some got a trial on it (I remember someone was even cured with that) but Bupropion (Wellbutrin) cured the "arousal headache" for many people and even "some orgasmic disorder" :

Reported difficulty or delay in achieving orgasm, satisfaction with orgasm and erectile function, and subjective impressions of drug effect.
RESULTS:

In the women, there were significant improvements relative to baseline (p < .01) on both doses of bupropion-SR in all measured aspects of sexual function, and significant improvements relative to placebo (p < .05) in overall sexual satisfaction on both doses and satisfaction with intensity of orgasm on 150 mg/day (300 mg/day, p = .10). In the men, significant improvements over baseline (p < .01) were observed with both doses in overall sexual satisfaction, ability to achieve an erection, and delay in reaching orgasm/ejaculation; significant improvements relative to placebo (p < .05) were observed in overall sexual satisfaction on both doses, ability to achieve erection on 150 mg/day, and delay in orgasm/ejaculation on 150 mg/day. Seventy percent of subjects reported improvement in libido, arousal, or orgasmic function during bupropion administration.
CONCLUSIONS:

Bupropion-SR may be a useful agent for treating orgasmic delay and inhibition, and possibly disorders of sexual arousal. The results argue against bupropion's apparent prosexual effect in depressed patients being simply a result of its antidepressant activity.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10929571
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« Reply #13472 on: 31/05/2011 23:59:44 »
Quote from: daveman on 31/05/2011 18:49:34

When I get that "fullness" below, it's selling...


Who is it selling?  [:D]
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« Reply #13473 on: 01/06/2011 00:02:23 »
Quote from: pyropeach on 31/05/2011 02:00:33
Quote from: demografx on 30/05/2011 15:23:33

I would love to study the biological semen regeneration process. That just MAY possibly be the path to a full POIS cure - for some of us!!

Maybe Pyropeach will help me/others take the lazy way out and teach us here? [:)]


Demo, you never fail to flatter....lol  I encourage everyone to lookup anything and everything about semen regeneration, or more accurately I'd say, semen-glands regeneration. 


That's it? End of lecture? I want my money back! [:)]
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« Reply #13474 on: 01/06/2011 02:18:47 »
Quote from: demografx on 01/06/2011 00:02:23
Quote from: pyropeach on 31/05/2011 02:00:33
Quote from: demografx on 30/05/2011 15:23:33

I would love to study the biological semen regeneration process. That just MAY possibly be the path to a full POIS cure - for some of us!!

Maybe Pyropeach will help me/others take the lazy way out and teach us here? [:)]


Demo, you never fail to flatter....lol  I encourage everyone to lookup anything and everything about semen regeneration, or more accurately I'd say, semen-glands regeneration. 


That's it? End of lecture? I want my money back! [:)]
I dont think it takes that long to make semen(with no sperm). 
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« Reply #13475 on: 01/06/2011 02:51:14 »
Quote from: rock27 on 31/05/2011 15:56:37
The nature.com article was discussed on this forum before.
I bought it and, apart from the first paragraph that talks about the urinary thing (I can't remember they are in Dr W's papers, or are they?) it is a summary of Dr W. papers.
I can send it to you if you PM me your mail. I am not going to post as there may be rights on.


Thanks Rock. I don't have to read if you say there is nothing new in the article.
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« Reply #13476 on: 01/06/2011 03:04:17 »
Quote from: demografx on 31/05/2011 23:59:44
Quote from: daveman on 31/05/2011 18:49:34

When I get that "fullness" below, it's selling...


Who is it selling?  [:D]

My selling is crappy when I'm in POIS, I also loose my sense of sell!
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« Reply #13477 on: 01/06/2011 03:38:46 »
Quote from: daveman on 01/06/2011 03:04:17
Quote from: demografx on 31/05/2011 23:59:44
Quote from: daveman on 31/05/2011 18:49:34

When I get that "fullness" below, it's selling...


Who is it selling?  [:D]


My selling is crappy when I'm in POIS, I also lose my sense of sell!


Are you suggesting we look at stem sell for POIS?
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« Reply #13478 on: 01/06/2011 03:45:17 »
Quote from: lauracostis on 01/06/2011 02:18:47
Quote from: demografx on 01/06/2011 00:02:23
Quote from: pyropeach on 31/05/2011 02:00:33
Quote from: demografx on 30/05/2011 15:23:33

I would love to study the biological semen regeneration process. That just MAY possibly be the path to a full POIS cure - for some of us!!

Maybe Pyropeach will help me/others take the lazy way out and teach us here? [:)]


Demo, you never fail to flatter....lol  I encourage everyone to lookup anything and everything about semen regeneration, or more accurately I'd say, semen-glands regeneration. 


That's it? End of lecture? I want my money back! [:)]


I dont think it takes that long to make semen(with no sperm). 


Holy mackerel!

So maybe WHEN I lost my sperm - making semen only - is when I became 80% POIS-free???

I am concluding that because of my regeneration theory (faster regen = LESS POIS, slower regen = WORSE POIS) ...the plot thickens (no pun intended)...amazing.
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« Reply #13479 on: 01/06/2011 10:22:56 »
From: http://www.bbc.co.uk/health/physical_health/conditions/in_depth/allergies/allergicmedical_treatments.shtml

Treating allergies:
1) Desensitisation immunotherapy
2) Effective symptom relief
3) Treating inflammation
4) Monoclonal antibodies
5) DNA vaccines

Effective symptom relief
For most allergies, the mainstay of treatment and management is specific allergen avoidance and, failing this, long-term, low-dose inhaled or topically applied steroids (cortisone) together with non-sedating antihistamine medication.

Antihistamines have advanced and are now more specific to the histamine receptors in our tissues and less prone to unwanted side-effects, such as sedation and drying of mucous membranes.

Inhaled and topical (applied to skin) steroids have also become more targeted and are now less likely to cause systemic effects, such as growth problems in children and osteoporosis or cataracts in adults.


Treating inflammation
Theophylline tablets have all but been withdrawn from use in treating asthma owing to unpredictable effects and lack of benefit. But a new generation of drugs called phosphodiesterase-4 inhibitors is an exciting development, as these may both open the airways and reduce lung inflammation.

Drugs that act on specific chemicals involved in allergic inflammation are being developed (they are now widely available). These include leukotriene receptor antagonists, such as montelukast and zafirlukast, which block the effects of leukotrienes, the chemicals that promote allergic inflammation.
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