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Demo,I remember the first time you had an O while on daily Naicin, you were almost POIS-free (also huge part due to testosterone). Did you experience the flush then??
Hello Willem,could you please again summarize a bit your desensitization treatment1- when did you start and where2- how many injections have you received till now and concentrations3- percent of improvement you are feeling4- fresh or frozen samples each time?can't wait to hear it is working for you! thanks
Willem -You're doing the sublingual immunotherapy at home. I know there's probably some risk of shock and perhaps it's against medical advice to do this on your own so pls be as safe as possible about it, but I just wanted to personally say that I'm very excited for your results. I know you're waiting for conclusive evidence to share with us, so I'm waiting patiently until then. Also, i think you're a crazy pioneer/maverick for treating yourself with this and I give you a ton of credit for undertaking such an experiment!
Dear all,I discovered this forum a few days ago, but have been searching for this type of symptom occasionally on google for at least a year or two now. Glad to have finally found a place I can call home. There is some comfort just in knowing I am not alone.BRIEF SUMMARY/SYMPTOMS: 23 year old male, come from a slightly neurotic household but medical-oriented (father is a doctor). I work in a high finance trading job in a good city. Perfect genes, tough to pinpoint when symptoms started but it has gotten progressively worse over time. I suffer from post ejaculation fatigue, depression, clouded thought, difficulty focusing/concentrating, loss of libido, acne, lack of appetite (and I am already very skinny), weakened immune system, irritability/cynicism, very serious personality, sunlight sensitivity, disturbed sleep (lack of dreaming/deep sleep, wake up still very tired). My symptoms tend to occur in the 2-3 days afters ejaculating, (the worst being the morning after), but I feel some minor effects beginning right after orgasm. One year ago I developed acid reflux/heartburn, constant burping, and an endoscopy revealed a hiatal hernia. Very recently, symptoms have worsened, turning into mild nausea after eating, full blown anxiety and even downright panic attacks. At times it feels like I have too much adrenaline pumping through my veins, and at other times it feels like I am downright depressed. Doctors feel that the gastro issues are related to the anxiety, which has underlying depression as the cause. I began taking clonazepam as needed in past few weeks, but have had a mixed response so far. Doctor wants me to start on antidepressants like Zoloft and possible other medication.WHAT WORKS FOR ME: Tough to say since my symptoms seem to be getting worse but in general, when I take ZINC, it gives me libido (rock hard erections), energy, confidence, and helps with sleep, and helps to clear up acne blemishes, it also helps me to concentrate/think better. However, the effects are short lived as ejaculating seems to pull the zinc right out of me (my semen must have a tremendous amount of zinc content). Still, I cannot speak enough to the benefits of Zinc. I recently switched to Zinc Magnesium Calcium supplements. Exercise helps only in the immediate short term, releasing endorphins for me that make me feel good all around. Protein in general seems to help me recover faster. Sleep seems to help my body refresh its energy/hormonal levels, and I may suffer from chronic lack of sleep as I have a deviated septum so it may be that I have been getting slightly less than optimal amounts of sleep for several years now. Sunlight seems to help a bit, but I have not confirmed this for myself. Also, it seems to help when I try to lead an active lifestyle where I don't worry so much about trying to time ejaculations perfectly every X number of days, or time my meals at the same time, etc. Adding diversity to my daily activities/eating habits such as snacking, and random exercise, and random supplement taking, seems to help smooth out the symptoms and helps me to not focus on them so much. But I do not have a definitive cure yet.LOOKING FORWARD: I would really like to try Niacan based off the rave reviews on this forum. Will update on how that is going. Also will update if I start taking any antidepressants or other doctor-prescribed medication. Going to read through this forum more closely to find any other tips or tricks.ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS: I think some of my issues may have to do with depression/anxiety and its far reaching effects. I may also suffer from stress. It is also possible that my way of life creates too much adrenaline, which could somehow deplete vitamins/nurtrients (a lot of my symptoms trace back to when I starting getting interested in the stock market, business jobs, etc...basically the stress/adrenaline factor). So I definitely think it may be vitamin/nutrient related, which is why Zinc works so well at times. I think there is a psychological component to this but that it does not cover everything. I would like to contribute $$ to a cause that researches this more, though I come from a family that is very skeptical of giving donations due to fraud/scams these days. If there was a way that I could feel completely confident the money is going to a legitimate institution, I would be happy to contribute what I can now, and more over time. I should also note that I am definitely in favor of a shared excel spreadsheet that organizes everyones perosonal bios, symptoms, medical history, and treatments/cures.
Welcome traderwithpois! .... Please think it twice before deciding to take an antidepressant! Especially if it's an SSRI, like the Zoloft you mentioned. Some people gets worse Pois symptoms after having taken an SSRI. In fact, there is/was a group in Yahoo Groups called "SSRI-post sexual dysfunction". So, it would be wise to choose, if any, an antidepressant that has not sexual side effects. For example, Bupropion or Mirtazapine.
I've read people dying from that sort of therapy due to shock? Be careful
Quote from: rock27 on 10/09/2011 18:51:13Demo,I remember the first time you had an O while on daily Naicin, you were almost POIS-free (also huge part due to testosterone). Did you experience the flush then??Rocky,I think it was either placebo or coincidence, because I don't feel any ongoing POIS improvement apart from my successful TRT treatment. POIS is now about the same as in my pre-niacin days.I do have a number of nearly-POIS-free episodes routinely and I have yet to explain why! I was also instructed to begin niacin therapy with uncoated 325mg aspirin to COUNTER the flush, and then I continued with 325mg aspirin because that is normal protocol for posturgical bypass patients like me. I suspect the aspirin continues to counter the flush.
Quick summary: my high dose TRT + stimulants + forced (extra) sleep are extremely powerful POIS tools for me. At times, I am nearly 100% POIS-free. On average: 80%.Please do NOT try what I do without strict testing, diagnosis and medical supervision. It can be dangerous.After 35 years POIS agony, I can't begin to describe my gratitude these last 2+ years. I thank you - this forum - for showing me the way!