Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)

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« Reply #16550 on: 24/05/2012 17:07:52 »
I have seen a lot of people talking about the reason off POIS and some said that the problem may be in the pleasure mechanism. Besides eating and ejaculation I have another situation that my POIS occurs. When Iīm evacuating and there are too much time of my last ejaculation, sometimes some sperm go out of my peis in the same time of faeces. When this occurs, I donīt have any pleasure but I have a small POIS (small because only a bit of sperm go out). So I think that POIS doesnīt have relation with pleasure mechanism...
Do you have this too?
Yes, very similar to your case, mild POIS (lasting for about 1 day) did occur even when just a little Cowper's fluid flows into my urethra (when I saw or thought of porn).

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« Reply #16551 on: 24/05/2012 17:20:49 »
I see. Thanks, Starsky.



The porn industries could perhaps help us too, but we must ask for help in a newspaper or tv show.

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« Reply #16552 on: 24/05/2012 17:42:17 »
Now, my question is:
When we finish reaching our donation goal of $33,500,
What is the expected time of research to be completed?
And also, when will it start?

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« Reply #16553 on: 24/05/2012 20:47:51 »
It is important to say that if we put together the pledges and the donations made we reach : 26 800 $ !!!
We "just need" 6 700 $ more which is not a lot since we are 400 on this forum and 201 on the POIS center... we can do it !
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« Reply #16554 on: 25/05/2012 00:56:11 »
I don't know if you guys tried rosemary tea but it helps for memory and relaxes me a bit.
Caution: Consult your doctor if you are pregnant, have high blood pressure or insomnia.

I wanted to bring up another point because i dont' know if it's been mentioned. Has there been any link with maybe taking certain antibiotics and this? The reason i bring it up and it could be just a coincidence but i remember maybe a month or so before feeling first mild symptoms of pois, i had a toothache and the side of face was swollen badly. They told me they had to give me antibiotics first(which i took for several days). I also did several teeth cleaning procedures at that time. When i tried to figure out several months later what was the only change in my life at that time, that was the only thing(didn't have teeth cleaning before and rarely took antibiotics in my life). I don't know it could be just a coincidence but i keep wondering maybe its not.



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« Reply #16555 on: 25/05/2012 03:03:45 »
edhawk10, thank you for the cautionary words!
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« Reply #16556 on: 25/05/2012 04:44:09 »
I never had any healthy problems before POIS. I was a healthy children (even more healthy than the normal ones). I donīt think that Pois have this kind of source.
The same with me.

Ditto.

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« Reply #16557 on: 25/05/2012 05:21:49 »
I see. Thanks, Starsky.



The porn industries could perhaps help us too, but we must ask for help in a newspaper or tv show.

What would our first step be?

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« Reply #16558 on: 25/05/2012 05:24:23 »
I'll ask my doctor next Friday if we can order this test.  I'll ask about the urine test too while I'm at it.  Good suggestion CCc.


has any body ever done a semen culture to check for bacteria/viruses


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« Reply #16559 on: 25/05/2012 07:13:06 »
I don't know if you guys tried rosemary tea but it helps for memory and relaxes me a bit.
Caution: Consult your doctor if you are pregnant, have high blood pressure or insomnia.

I wanted to bring up another point because i dont' know if it's been mentioned. Has there been any link with maybe taking certain antibiotics and this? The reason i bring it up and it could be just a coincidence but i remember maybe a month or so before feeling first mild symptoms of pois, i had a toothache and the side of face was swollen badly. They told me they had to give me antibiotics first(which i took for several days). I also did several teeth cleaning procedures at that time. When i tried to figure out several months later what was the only change in my life at that time, that was the only thing(didn't have teeth cleaning before and rarely took antibiotics in my life). I don't know it could be just a coincidence but i keep wondering maybe its not.
Edhawk, I also took antibiotics around the time I first got pois symptoms, and it has been mentioned here prior and a few others were the same, but unfortunately it does not seem to be the case with a significant number of people here. I was on tetracycline for acne  and I strongly suspect it played a role in my health problems. The thing is though it was in my teens around the time I first started having wet dreams, masterbating, so I cant say it definitely changed things because I did not have a decent history of non pois beforehand and I cant be specific on the exact timing of events (my mind was so fuzzy then).

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« Reply #16560 on: 25/05/2012 07:47:17 »
Edhawk, I began after poisoning when I started drinking antibiotics, this has led to POI

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« Reply #16561 on: 25/05/2012 12:56:45 »
Dear all, can I ask? If Niacin is supposed to be taken an hour prior to an orgasm, how do you guys use it to prevent POIS caused by involuntary nocturnal emission?

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« Reply #16562 on: 25/05/2012 13:11:35 »
Dear all, can I ask? If Niacin is supposed to be taken an hour prior to an orgasm, how do you guys use it to prevent POIS caused by involuntary nocturnal emission?

As you can imagine, we canīt. But in my case, something very significative happens(viktor.kons and i think others have reported the same...) if i am POIS and i have another orgasm after taking niacin. A brief summary of what i am saying:

- I have a NE. I develop POIS symptoms.
- I wake up, with POIS symptoms (brain fog, dizzy head, poor cognitive functioning, bad digestion). Then i take my 200 mg niacin.
- Niacin improves my POIS symptoms. If i donīt have another ejac, my POIS symptoms return in several hours. But If, and only If, i have another orgasm(1-4 hours after i took the niacin), my POIS - The same cognitive symptoms that have improved, but not dissappeared, with the niacin i took- is completely wiped off in the very moment iīm having a ejac. Amazing, isnīt it??

I donīt know if this serves for everyone, but it is not the first time that some POIS sufferers have reported that an O. while in POIS wipes off its previous POIS symptoms.

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« Reply #16563 on: 25/05/2012 13:17:51 »
As you can imagine, we canīt. But in my case, something very significative happens(viktor.kons and i think others have reported the same...) if i am POIS and i have another orgasm after taking niacin. A brief summary of what i am saying:
- I have a NE. I develop POIS symptoms.
- I wake up, with POIS symptoms (brain fog, dizzy head, poor cognitive functioning, bad digestion). Then i take my 200 mg niacin.
- Niacin improves my POIS symptoms. If i donīt have another ejac, my POIS symptoms return in several hours. But If, and only If, i have another orgasm(1-4 hours after i took the niacin), my POIS - The same cognitive symptoms that have improved, but not dissappeared, with the niacin i took- is completely wiped off in the very moment iīm having a ejac. Amazing, isnīt it??
I donīt know if this serves for everyone, but it is not the first time that some POIS sufferers have reported that an O. while in POIS wipes off its previous POIS symptoms.
Observercenter, thanks for elaborating, I get it.
It's kind of creepy though.
What the hell is actually undergoing within our body~

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« Reply #16564 on: 25/05/2012 15:31:53 »
I don't know if you guys tried rosemary tea but it helps for memory and relaxes me a bit.
Caution: Consult your doctor if you are pregnant, have high blood pressure or insomnia.

I wanted to bring up another point because i dont' know if it's been mentioned. Has there been any link with maybe taking certain antibiotics and this? The reason i bring it up and it could be just a coincidence but i remember maybe a month or so before feeling first mild symptoms of pois, i had a toothache and the side of face was swollen badly. They told me they had to give me antibiotics first(which i took for several days). I also did several teeth cleaning procedures at that time. When i tried to figure out several months later what was the only change in my life at that time, that was the only thing(didn't have teeth cleaning before and rarely took antibiotics in my life). I don't know it could be just a coincidence but i keep wondering maybe its not.
Edhawk, I also took antibiotics around the time I first got pois symptoms, and it has been mentioned here prior and a few others were the same, but unfortunately it does not seem to be the case with a significant number of people here. I was on tetracycline for acne  and I strongly suspect it played a role in my health problems. The thing is though it was in my teens around the time I first started having wet dreams, masterbating, so I cant say it definitely changed things because I did not have a decent history of non pois beforehand and I cant be specific on the exact timing of events (my mind was so fuzzy then).

I also made a threatment for acne. I taked for almost a year a strong medicene named roacutan (I was with 15-16 years).

My POIS start when I have 20 years, one day that the weather are very cold and I was not wearing property clothes. It was the day that I most take cold in my life. After that, I never be the same. But, before that, I already had small POIS (sensibility of light, I get tired and a less depressed, but after 1,2 hours I get normal). I donīt know, but I always think that, if I wasnīt take that cold, my POIS have never be occurred. But I sometimes think roacutan is the reason of my POIS...

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« Reply #16565 on: 25/05/2012 18:35:29 »
I have always noticed that if I am on POIS and had another O within the first few days of it that the symptons aren't so bad as if it was my first.

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« Reply #16566 on: 25/05/2012 19:05:24 »
Dear all, can I ask? If Niacin is supposed to be taken an hour prior to an orgasm, how do you guys use it to prevent POIS caused by involuntary nocturnal emission?

As you can imagine, we canīt. But in my case, something very significative happens(viktor.kons and i think others have reported the same...) if i am POIS and i have another orgasm after taking niacin. A brief summary of what i am saying:

- I have a NE. I develop POIS symptoms.
- I wake up, with POIS symptoms (brain fog, dizzy head, poor cognitive functioning, bad digestion). Then i take my 200 mg niacin.
- Niacin improves my POIS symptoms. If i donīt have another ejac, my POIS symptoms return in several hours. But If, and only If, i have another orgasm(1-4 hours after i took the niacin), my POIS - The same cognitive symptoms that have improved, but not dissappeared, with the niacin i took- is completely wiped off in the very moment iīm having a ejac. Amazing, isnīt it??

I donīt know if this serves for everyone, but it is not the first time that some POIS sufferers have reported that an O. while in POIS wipes off its previous POIS symptoms.
Yep, I confirm, that another Niacin-ed O while in POIS wipes off POIS symptoms for me. And this is damn strange thing. Though, I have only 2 episodes like this, I would like to check this few more times to be 100% sure that it is not some kind of Placebo.

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« Reply #16567 on: 25/05/2012 19:31:18 »
I'll ask my doctor next Friday if we can order this test.  I'll ask about the urine test too while I'm at it.  Good suggestion CCc.


has any body ever done a semen culture to check for bacteria/viruses


nice.
I want to do it because i already know i react to my semen so if there is nothing in there then i guess it has to be a protein.
I am going to be doing a hbv test and hcv test today.

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« Reply #16568 on: 26/05/2012 04:47:20 »
Could the premature ejaculation have something to do with POIS symptoms? I am wondering if most of us have premature ejaculation problem? If an O occurs within 15-20 seconds, could that be causing POIS somehow compared to most of the other people who can sustain longer?
By the way, you can try TROJAN extended pleasure condom, which apparently prevents premature ejaculation problem.

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« Reply #16569 on: 26/05/2012 12:55:51 »
Dear all, can I ask? If Niacin is supposed to be taken an hour prior to an orgasm, how do you guys use it to prevent POIS caused by involuntary nocturnal emission?

As you can imagine, we canīt. But in my case, something very significative happens(viktor.kons and i think others have reported the same...) if i am POIS and i have another orgasm after taking niacin. A brief summary of what i am saying:

- I have a NE. I develop POIS symptoms.
- I wake up, with POIS symptoms (brain fog, dizzy head, poor cognitive functioning, bad digestion). Then i take my 200 mg niacin.
- Niacin improves my POIS symptoms. If i donīt have another ejac, my POIS symptoms return in several hours. But If, and only If, i have another orgasm(1-4 hours after i took the niacin), my POIS - The same cognitive symptoms that have improved, but not dissappeared, with the niacin i took- is completely wiped off in the very moment iīm having a ejac. Amazing, isnīt it??

I donīt know if this serves for everyone, but it is not the first time that some POIS sufferers have reported that an O. while in POIS wipes off its previous POIS symptoms.

Yes, it's been mentioned before, but I've never had the nerve to try it. Without niacin, my second ejac in close proximity creates very sever POIS. Niacin works very well for me, but I still am afraid to try.

What is good about this is what it might mean medically. It's so very specific that it must be tied directly to the mechanism that causes POIS.
How does Murphey do it??

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« Reply #16570 on: 26/05/2012 18:11:17 »
Could the premature ejaculation have something to do with POIS symptoms? I am wondering if most of us have premature ejaculation problem? If an O occurs within 15-20 seconds, could that be causing POIS somehow compared to most of the other people who can sustain longer?
By the way, you can try TROJAN extended pleasure condom, which apparently prevents premature ejaculation problem.

Yes, premature ejaculations is because of POIS. I always have premature ejaculation whan my POIS are very bad. Initially I think that is because I stay too much time without ejaculation, but it is not. After I learn somethings about POIS and improve my symptoms, I can stay a long time without ejaculation (7 days) and I don't have premature ejaculation..

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« Reply #16571 on: 26/05/2012 21:08:39 »
Could the premature ejaculation have something to do with POIS symptoms? I am wondering if most of us have premature ejaculation problem? If an O occurs within 15-20 seconds, could that be causing POIS somehow compared to most of the other people who can sustain longer?
By the way, you can try TROJAN extended pleasure condom, which apparently prevents premature ejaculation problem.
For me also same problem. I wil have o within a min. i dont know whether premature orgasm is a source for pois or it is a result of pois.Further my hard penis size max goes to 10cm. I know that as per me avg hard penis is 13cm to 18cm. Hence i am short of 5 cm. Is there any link between this and pois. Is anybody have this problem

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« Reply #16572 on: 26/05/2012 22:19:13 »
For me it's same as daveman. If i go 2nd or 3rd day and have O again i'll have even more severe pois...so i just delay for as long as i can. Haven't tried Niacin yet.

Some have mentioned that they've had symptoms since they were in their teens and i honestly can say that i didn't have this problem at that time.

Interesting how some of you have found relief from immune boosters like garlic, vitamin c and so on. Some relief from allergy meds too. From reading so many pages there's quite a few who have had sinus issues, acne, dermatitis, stomach cramps, joint pain and so on. I've had all those as well. Our immune systems are so screwed up.






 

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« Reply #16573 on: 27/05/2012 00:04:35 »
You dont know me yet but i definitely know you. i have been reading this forum for the past several months and i can tell you that without it i dont know where ide be right now. I am 19 years old and have been experiencing pois symptoms ever since i was around 12-13 (6th- 7th grade). Iv'e been suffering with this disease for as long as i can remember and its pretty much all i know. I went through school not knowing why iv'e been failing both academically and socially. I've been very lonely. over the past few years iv'e developed undying pois symptoms that 99% of the time doesn't go away and constantly fogs my head enabling me to talk to people, remember, understand, feel proper emotions and live a proper life like any human being should. I say 99% because there were two weeks that i remember when i had no symptoms at all. Those were the best weeks of my life which showed me that their is more to live and fight for. I live in israel where at the age of 18 I am forced by law to join the army. i delayed it as long as i could hoping and praying to find some sort of cure. I didn't find a cure but i did find this forum which has been strengthening me. As i mentioned earlier, i am 19 years old, and am now in the army pretty much suffering my way through it but knowing their are people out there like me. people who are fighting and making amazing progress. I want to say thank you for all the amazing work you all have been doing. I think the NORD research is a very important step in solving this thing and although i dont have much money ill try to scrummage something up and contribute as soon as i can.

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« Reply #16574 on: 27/05/2012 01:16:56 »
amijgoro, I just want to say that I feel like crying reading your post.
Why do we have to suffer from this kind of agony without a comprehensible reason?
Honestly, I'd rather not be born if I ever had a choice. Sorry for being pessimistic, but that's how I feel.

Be sure to read the 'POIS Compendium_Rev 6' in the following website: newbielink:http://sites.google.com/site/poiswebsite/ [nonactive]
As a summary, nutrition is the key to relief to certain extends.

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« Reply #16575 on: 27/05/2012 03:48:11 »
amijgoro, welcome to the POIS thread of The Naked Science Forum!  We believe that 2012 is POIS' Breakthrough Year. We hope to launch serious POIS Medical Research. A great time to be here!
   


Please check your mail inbox for a complete list of POIS resources.
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« Reply #16576 on: 27/05/2012 03:48:52 »

0002pdnuos, Nietzsche has words of comfort: "That which does not kill me makes me stronger." I usually find that true. Even with POIS.


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« Reply #16577 on: 27/05/2012 08:40:29 »
Nietzsche has words of comfort: "That which does not kill me makes me stronger."
The statement "That which does not kill me makes me stronger." is nonsensical, e.g. a non-fatal brain injury which rendered someone into a vegetative state would not make them stronger.BTW Nietzsche suffered from dementia and was rather keen on narcotics. Anyone with a with chronic illness promoting the ideas of this demented junkie is shooting themselves in the foot ...
Quote from: Friedrich Nietzsche
“The invalid is a parasite on society. In a certain state it is indecent to go on living. To vegetate on in cowardly dependence on physicians and medicaments after the meaning of life, the right to life, has been lost ought to entail the profound contempt of society.”
http://thinkexist.com/quotation/the_invalid_is_a_parasite_on_society-in_a_certain/323161.html
 
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« Reply #16578 on: 27/05/2012 11:31:33 »
Dear all, can I ask? If Niacin is supposed to be taken an hour prior to an orgasm, how do you guys use it to prevent POIS caused by involuntary nocturnal emission?

As you can imagine, we canīt. But in my case, something very significative happens(viktor.kons and i think others have reported the same...) if i am POIS and i have another orgasm after taking niacin. A brief summary of what i am saying:

- I have a NE. I develop POIS symptoms.
- I wake up, with POIS symptoms (brain fog, dizzy head, poor cognitive functioning, bad digestion). Then i take my 200 mg niacin.
- Niacin improves my POIS symptoms. If i donīt have another ejac, my POIS symptoms return in several hours. But If, and only If, i have another orgasm(1-4 hours after i took the niacin), my POIS - The same cognitive symptoms that have improved, but not dissappeared, with the niacin i took- is completely wiped off in the very moment iīm having a ejac. Amazing, isnīt it??

I donīt know if this serves for everyone, but it is not the first time that some POIS sufferers have reported that an O. while in POIS wipes off its previous POIS symptoms.

Yes, it's been mentioned before, but I've never had the nerve to try it. Without niacin, my second ejac in close proximity creates very sever POIS. Niacin works very well for me, but I still am afraid to try.

What is good about this is what it might mean medically. It's so very specific that it must be tied directly to the mechanism that causes POIS.

A possibility is that each O triggers a chemical reaction which tries to balance itself. Due to some kind of enzymatic deficiency, which can be treated by mega doses of niacin, the reaction fails to achieve balance in POIS with low levels of neuro-chemicals which enable concentration and effort. (catecholamines for instance). With niacin levels increased, another O may trigger the balancing reaction which, this time, can proceed to a more stable position. Hence, the cognitive symptoms of POIS would appear to be wiped.
I've experienced something similar and I suspect that's what's going on.
I know more about the maths models (stuff like Sel'kov models) than I do about the biochemistry, unfortunately, so I'm always trying to plug gaps in my knowledge.

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« Reply #16579 on: 27/05/2012 11:36:15 »
Nietzsche has words of comfort: "That which does not kill me makes me stronger."

The statement "That which does not kill me makes me stronger." is nonsensical,
e.g. a non-fatal brain injury which rendered someone into a vegetative state would not make them stronger.

BTW Nietzsche suffered from dementia and was rather keen on narcotics.
Anyone with a with chronic illness promoting the ideas of this demented junkie is shooting themselves in the foot ...

Quote from: Friedrich Nietzsche
“The invalid is a parasite on society. In a certain state it is indecent to go on living. To vegetate on in cowardly dependence on physicians and medicaments after the meaning of life, the right to life, has been lost ought to entail the profound contempt of society.”
http://thinkexist.com/quotation/the_invalid_is_a_parasite_on_society-in_a_certain/323161.html [nofollow][/size] [/sup]

But the statement makes sense if someone has a rebirth and leaves behind him years of suffering. This particular someone has been used to struggle with many difficulties, and  now he is free of them. This someone is now stronger than in the past. I think that is demografxīs case, and it could be perfectly amijgoro case- and everyone of us-(you have my full support amijgoro, what you are doing is amazing) when he finds a solution for his case. We are working to make it happen - because we are not in a vegetative state!!- .
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« Reply #16580 on: 27/05/2012 11:59:47 »
Nietzsche has words of comfort: "That which does not kill me makes me stronger."

The statement "That which does not kill me makes me stronger." is nonsensical,
e.g. a non-fatal brain injury which rendered someone into a vegetative state would not make them stronger.

BTW Nietzsche suffered from dementia and was rather keen on narcotics.
Anyone with a with chronic illness promoting the ideas of this demented junkie is shooting themselves in the foot ...

Quote from: Friedrich Nietzsche
“The invalid is a parasite on society. In a certain state it is indecent to go on living. To vegetate on in cowardly dependence on physicians and medicaments after the meaning of life, the right to life, has been lost ought to entail the profound contempt of society.”
http://thinkexist.com/quotation/the_invalid_is_a_parasite_on_society-in_a_certain/323161.html
 
True but Nietzsche was also speaking with self-loathing and contempt for his own dependent state. He said some sensible and clever things and some that were ridiculous and/or fascistic. If a lunatic makes a good point and it gives someone a useful perspective then that's seems fine to me.

Also, I'd dispute that a quotation needs to be logical, consistent and well-formed to be useful. When I read that quotation by Nietzsche I think about the possibility that my perspective has been changed in some beneficial way by suffering from POIS. I believe it has. I understand that a person's life can be interrupted or upset by something external that appears to resist every attempt to treat it and is not recognised by the medical community. That was a hard lesson to learn and it's given me many insights into the limitations of medical knowledge and sympathy for those I may have been too busy and too arrogant to care about.

A friend of mine is a psychologist and he makes a good argument that great human endeavour is driven by our reaction to trauma. He argues that any form of achievement (sport, intellectually, music etc.) represents a thousand battles (metaphorically) with the traumas stored in our primitive brains. So I can understand what Demo is getting at. He's done what he has in life in spite of POIS and is driven to help us on this forum because the trauma of the POIS experience drives him to improve things for others. If Nietzsche helps provide that perspective then so be it.

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« Reply #16581 on: 27/05/2012 12:19:34 »
Even if you only read the forum, it is important you register so that we can know who have POIS symptoms and so that we have more weight on the opinion !

Amijgoro, I am exactly on the same situation as you concerning the state of POIS : I am in a constant one POIS now 2 years. I just started to take pills to increase my level of dopamin (under the controle of doctors as alaways) since I found out my level was very low. It was one of the only standard that failed so much...

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« Reply #16582 on: 27/05/2012 12:26:31 »
Even if you only read the forum, it is important you register so that we can know who have POIS symptoms and so that we have more weight on the opinion !

Amijgoro, I am exactly on the same situation as you concerning the state of POIS : I am in a constant one POIS now 2 years. I just started to take pills to increase my level of dopamin (under the controle of doctors as alaways) since I found out my level was very low. It was one of the only standard that failed so much...

I  encourage all the silent readers - i was one of them during several months - to register and share their case. Youīll feel very good after doing it!!

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« Reply #16583 on: 27/05/2012 12:28:44 »
Could the premature ejaculation have something to do with POIS symptoms? I am wondering if most of us have premature ejaculation problem? If an O occurs within 15-20 seconds, could that be causing POIS somehow compared to most of the other people who can sustain longer?
By the way, you can try TROJAN extended pleasure condom, which apparently prevents premature ejaculation problem.

I have had PE as long as I can remember. Even the times in my life that I do not expericnce POIS I continued to have PE.

I am once again considering that POIS is caused by an inflammation of the the prostate (for whatever reason). I had tried Saw Palmetto in the past with no benefits but I am now taking a prostate formula called "Super Prostate". I have had one NE since I began this and did not experience any POIS. Also, I am speculating that it may have reduced my PE, time will tell. I say this because I have had no NEs after taking it for a couple of weeks. For anyone struggling with unwanted NEs you could try a prostate supplement.  The idea that POIS is caused by prostate inflammation sounds logical to me as anti-inflammatory foods reduce or eliminate my symptoms.

Here are the details of the supplement I am taking:

Extra Strength Super Prostate by Webber Naturals
Ingredients:
Saw Palmetto Extract (85-95%) 320mg
Pumpkin Oil 480mg
Zinc 15mg
Tomato Extract (6% lycopene) 5mg
Seleium 55mcg

I am normally taking the recommended dose at one per day. The night after I first started taking them I had an NE and for the next few days took two per day.  No POIS (without taking anti-inflammatory foods)!

Also of note: testosterone reduces inflammation.

http://fitlode.com/2011/08/04/the-anti-inflammatory-powers-of-testosterone/
« Last Edit: 27/05/2012 15:34:29 by John21 »

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« Reply #16584 on: 27/05/2012 19:44:08 »
Nietzsche has words of comfort: "That which does not kill me makes me stronger."


[reply about Nietzsche totally off topic to POIS...]
 

And your experience with POIS is...?

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« Reply #16585 on: 27/05/2012 19:56:13 »
RD, you have had nothing but bad things to say about this thread.

Please leave us alone.

Or I will issue a formal ban warning to you, RD - - with full explanation to TNS.

Let's stop. You're a bright guy with better things to do than complain about "TNS' very own porn channel".

Posted/delivered to RD via PM.

= = = = = = = = = = = = = =  = = = = = =
NOW LET'S PLEASE MOVE ON, UP AND AWAY FROM SILLY DISTRACTIONS AND NEGATIVITY!

Many thanks all, for your fantastic support!


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« Reply #16586 on: 27/05/2012 19:57:49 »

True but Nietzsche was also speaking with self-loathing...


kurtosis, relax. This poster (imposter) is a POIS thread hater from way back. Sadly we have to deal with all types. With friends like you, kurtosis, guys like him are completely manageable.

Someone else at TNS says if he had a touch of POIS - MAYBE he'd understand. I have my doubts.

Let's not give fools any more energy than they deserve. PM me anyone if you wish more info.

Best,
Demo
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« Reply #16587 on: 27/05/2012 20:12:28 »
Could the premature ejaculation have something to do with POIS symptoms? I am wondering if most of us have premature ejaculation problem? If an O occurs within 15-20 seconds, could that be causing POIS somehow compared to most of the other people who can sustain longer?
By the way, you can try TROJAN extended pleasure condom, which apparently prevents premature ejaculation problem.

I have had PE as long as I can remember. Even the times in my life that I do not expericnce POIS I continued to have PE.

I am once again considering that POIS is caused by an inflammation of the the prostate (for whatever reason). I had tried Saw Palmetto in the past with no benefits but I am now taking a prostate formula called "Super Prostate". I have had one NE since I began this and did not experience any POIS. Also, I am speculating that it may have reduced my PE, time will tell. I say this because I have had no NEs after taking it for a couple of weeks. Ior anyone struggling with unwanted NEs you could try a prostate supplement.  The idea that POIS is caused by prostate inflammation sounds logical to me as anti-inflammatory foods reduce or eliminate my symptoms.

Here are the details of the supplement I am taking:

Extra Strength Super Prostate by Webber Naturals
Ingredients:
Saw Palmetto Extract (85-95%) 320mg
Pumpkin Oil 480mg
Zinc 15mg
Tomato Extract (6% lycopene) 5mg
Seleium 55mcg

I am normally taking the recommended dose at one per day. The night after I first started taking them I had an NE and for the next few days took two per day.  No POIS (without taking anti-inflammatory foods)!

Also of note: testosterone reduces inflammation.

http://fitlode.com/2011/08/04/the-anti-inflammatory-powers-of-testosterone/

"Anti-inflammatory" and POIS are making more and more sense. Thanks, John!

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« Reply #16588 on: 27/05/2012 20:44:04 »
Even if you only read the forum, it is important you register so that we can know who have POIS symptoms and so that we have more weight on the opinion !

Amijgoro, I am exactly on the same situation as you concerning the state of POIS : I am in a constant one POIS now 2 years. I just started to take pills to increase my level of dopamin (under the controle of doctors as alaways) since I found out my level was very low. It was one of the only standard that failed so much...

I  encourage all the silent readers - i was one of them during several months - to register and share their case. Youīll feel very good after doing it!!


To the silent readers: we greatly appreciate you. And you help our "stats" (hits) - and thus our popularity and appeal to more suffering POISers -  enormously...thank you!

Either way, silent readers (the majority of POIS thread) are WELCOME, WELCOME, WELCOME.


I agree with Observer. But if you CAN'T register, you are 105% welcome by us!!!

Best wishes,
Demo

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« Reply #16589 on: 27/05/2012 21:17:21 »
Nietzsche has words of comfort: "That which does not kill me makes me stronger."

The statement "That which does not kill me makes me stronger." is nonsensical,
e.g. a non-fatal brain injury which rendered someone into a vegetative state would not make them stronger.

BTW Nietzsche suffered from dementia and was rather keen on narcotics.
Anyone with a with chronic illness promoting the ideas of this demented junkie is shooting themselves in the foot ...


Quote from: Friedrich Nietzsche
The invalid is a parasite on society. In a certain state it is indecent to go on living. To vegetate on in cowardly dependence on physicians and medicaments after the meaning of life, the right to life, has been lost ought to entail the profound contempt of society.”
http://thinkexist.com/quotation/the_invalid_is_a_parasite_on_society-in_a_certain/323161.html
 

Nietzsche was also speaking with self-loathing and contempt for his own dependent state. He said some sensible and clever things and some that were ridiculous and/or fascistic. If a lunatic makes a good point and it gives someone a useful perspective then that's seems fine to me.

Also, I'd dispute that a quotation needs to be logical, consistent and well-formed to be useful. When I read that quotation by Nietzsche I think about the possibility that my perspective has been changed in some beneficial way by suffering from POIS. I believe it has. I understand that a person's life can be interrupted or upset by something external that appears to resist every attempt to treat it and is not recognised by the medical community. That was a hard lesson to learn and it's given me many insights into the limitations of medical knowledge and sympathy for those I may have been too busy and too arrogant to care about.

A friend of mine is a psychologist and he makes a good argument that great human endeavour is driven by our reaction to trauma. He argues that any form of achievement (sport, intellectually, music etc.) represents a thousand battles (metaphorically) with the traumas stored in our primitive brains. So I can understand what Demo is getting at. He's done what he has in life in spite of POIS and is driven to help us on this forum because the trauma of the POIS experience drives him to improve things for others. If Nietzsche helps provide that perspective then so be it.



kurtosis, BEAUTIFUL reply. Expresses extremely well what we're exactly all about.

Thank you!

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« Reply #16590 on: 27/05/2012 21:24:57 »
Some visitors have nothing intelligent to say about POIS, so they resort to nitpicking tangential matters. LOL. Kinda like ad hominems, but less clever : - )

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« Reply #16591 on: 27/05/2012 22:10:20 »
Some visitors have nothing intelligent to say about POIS, so they resort to nitpicking tangential matters. LOL. Kinda like ad hominems, but less clever : - )

All this really is an expression of the difference here on this thread. Many other threads are more intent on proving who's right, who has the better catch phrase, showing how cult they are, arguing points that are pointless.

Here it's a serious group trying to resolve a life wrecking ailment. There is no place for troublemakers or egos, where we are just trying to get to the bottom of a real problem.

We have a delicate balance and have worked hard at maintaining it, with lives that become unraveled in an instant by some ignorant bully ([generically speaking] and whether they realize it or not).

Not to mention the fact that there is a good deal of traffic from real medical investigators recompiling information on thei little know illness. It behooves us to keep the chaff OUT.

How does Murphey do it??

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« Reply #16592 on: 27/05/2012 23:10:51 »
Nietzsche has words of comfort: "That which does not kill me makes me stronger."

The statement "That which does not kill me makes me stronger." is nonsensical,
e.g. a non-fatal brain injury which rendered someone into a vegetative state would not make them stronger.

BTW Nietzsche suffered from dementia and was rather keen on narcotics.
Anyone with a with chronic illness promoting the ideas of this demented junkie is shooting themselves in the foot ...


Quote from: Friedrich Nietzsche
The invalid is a parasite on society. In a certain state it is indecent to go on living. To vegetate on in cowardly dependence on physicians and medicaments after the meaning of life, the right to life, has been lost ought to entail the profound contempt of society.”
http://thinkexist.com/quotation/the_invalid_is_a_parasite_on_society-in_a_certain/323161.html [nofollow]
 

Nietzsche was also speaking with self-loathing and contempt for his own dependent state. He said some sensible and clever things and some that were ridiculous and/or fascistic. If a lunatic makes a good point and it gives someone a useful perspective then that's seems fine to me.

Also, I'd dispute that a quotation needs to be logical, consistent and well-formed to be useful. When I read that quotation by Nietzsche I think about the possibility that my perspective has been changed in some beneficial way by suffering from POIS. I believe it has. I understand that a person's life can be interrupted or upset by something external that appears to resist every attempt to treat it and is not recognised by the medical community. That was a hard lesson to learn and it's given me many insights into the limitations of medical knowledge and sympathy for those I may have been too busy and too arrogant to care about.

A friend of mine is a psychologist and he makes a good argument that great human endeavour is driven by our reaction to trauma. He argues that any form of achievement (sport, intellectually, music etc.) represents a thousand battles (metaphorically) with the traumas stored in our primitive brains. So I can understand what Demo is getting at. He's done what he has in life in spite of POIS and is driven to help us on this forum because the trauma of the POIS experience drives him to improve things for others. If Nietzsche helps provide that perspective then so be it.



kurtosis, BEAUTIFUL reply. Expresses extremely well what we're exactly all about.

Thank you!



Kurtosis, you express yourself wonderfully!!!!  :-)


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« Reply #16593 on: 27/05/2012 23:31:16 »
Some visitors have nothing intelligent to say about POIS, so they resort to nitpicking tangential matters. LOL. Kinda like ad hominems, but less clever : - )

All this really is an expression of the difference here on this thread. Many other threads are more intent on proving who's right, who has the better catch phrase, showing how cult they are, arguing points that are pointless.

Here it's a serious group trying to resolve a life wrecking ailment. There is no place for troublemakers or egos, where we are just trying to get to the bottom of a real problem.

We have a delicate balance and have worked hard at maintaining it, with lives that become unraveled in an instant by some ignorant bully ([generically speaking] and whether they realize it or not).

Not to mention the fact that there is a good deal of traffic from real medical investigators recompiling information on thei little know illness. It behooves us to keep the chaff OUT.



I'm framing this and putting above my fireplace.

THANK YOU, DAVEMAN!

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« Reply #16594 on: 28/05/2012 04:27:43 »
And thank you, Stef, for that lovely POIS pill-sandwich graphic!



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« Reply #16595 on: 28/05/2012 06:33:20 »


Have a good, safe Memorial Day!

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« Reply #16596 on: 28/05/2012 07:27:20 »
Could the premature ejaculation have something to do with POIS symptoms? I am wondering if most of us have premature ejaculation problem? If an O occurs within 15-20 seconds, could that be causing POIS somehow compared to most of the other people who can sustain longer?
By the way, you can try TROJAN extended pleasure condom, which apparently prevents premature ejaculation problem.

I have had PE as long as I can remember. Even the times in my life that I do not expericnce POIS I continued to have PE.

I am once again considering that POIS is caused by an inflammation of the the prostate (for whatever reason). I had tried Saw Palmetto in the past with no benefits but I am now taking a prostate formula called "Super Prostate". I have had one NE since I began this and did not experience any POIS. Also, I am speculating that it may have reduced my PE, time will tell. I say this because I have had no NEs after taking it for a couple of weeks. For anyone struggling with unwanted NEs you could try a prostate supplement.  The idea that POIS is caused by prostate inflammation sounds logical to me as anti-inflammatory foods reduce or eliminate my symptoms.

Here are the details of the supplement I am taking:

Extra Strength Super Prostate by Webber Naturals
Ingredients:
Saw Palmetto Extract (85-95%) 320mg
Pumpkin Oil 480mg
Zinc 15mg
Tomato Extract (6% lycopene) 5mg
Seleium 55mcg

I am normally taking the recommended dose at one per day. The night after I first started taking them I had an NE and for the next few days took two per day.  No POIS (without taking anti-inflammatory foods)!

Also of note: testosterone reduces inflammation.

http://fitlode.com/2011/08/04/the-anti-inflammatory-powers-of-testosterone/ [nofollow]

John21,

The connection between prostate inflammation and POIS makes much sense to me. It seems that when I have groin discomfort after orgasm it also goes hand in hand with my POIS symptoms. When I have no gorin discomfort and no erection problems, and no weak urine stream problems I usually also have little POIS. Some of the supplements I have taken have helped a bit with this. Burning/Light sensitive eyes also goes hand in hand with these things for me.

This causes me to wonder how ejaculation could cause prostate inflammation. And, If so, How prostate inflammation could cause such debilitating mental symptoms. It really is mind blowing!

If anyone wants to weigh in I'd be happy to read it.

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« Reply #16597 on: 28/05/2012 11:19:40 »
jferr,
I don't know what might be the cause if it is found to be prostate inflammation. Bacterial prostatis can cause flu-like symptoms, maybe our symptoms are the result of immune activity.

The idea that the prostate supplements might help with PE might be out the window as I had an NE last night. No POIS symptoms yet though, stay tuned.

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« Reply #16598 on: 28/05/2012 15:24:04 »
I was reading you about prostate inflammation and I think in one thing. Iīm sorry if is stupid question but I have to ask it. After my POIS started I became adiccted in prostitutes, because I only have sex the moments I could and because itīs very difficulty to have realationships with POIS. What I want to say is that all the hookers stay impressed for how far my ejaculation go. All the hookers say that they never had seen something like this before. I think this is may a cause of POIS. I don't know, maybe my urine canal are so thin and my body have to make a lot of effort to expel sperm. Or maybe is prostate inflammation.

Dou you have something like that? Have some women told you that you ejaculate too high, far, strong?

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« Reply #16599 on: 28/05/2012 19:19:36 »
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