Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)

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« Reply #18100 on: 16/04/2013 22:57:51 »
Interesting table of adrenals/thyroid symptoms:

http://www.drrind.com/therapies/metabolic-symptoms-matrix

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« Reply #18101 on: 17/04/2013 10:47:59 »
There is something I wanted to share :

It's been 3 times I follow the same POIS cycle.

After a POIS period(4-5days), I totally abstain from O...i'm OK for 6 to 7 days...and then POIS come back even if I don't O for about 10 days....I don't notice NE. If I wanna recover from this I need to go through a new cycle with 4 days of hell POIS.
I don't know how to explain that...It could be stress or it could be something else.

What about you guys ?


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« Reply #18102 on: 17/04/2013 15:03:05 »
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« Reply #18103 on: 17/04/2013 16:58:14 »
Would like to add my symptoms once again if it helps someone figure out a cure for this f*cking problem of mine...

- brain fog, blurry mental state
- speech problem, cant find the words
- bad memory
- bloated stomach
- bowl issues
- overactive saliva production
- nervous state of mind
- sometimes depressed
- always low on energy
- cant recooperate after exercise
- sometimes severe flue after orgasm, as well as bad throat and dry eyes
- constant coughin and cronical lung issues
- dry skin and poor hair
- horrible sleep pattern with falling asleep at 4 am due to fatigue
- impossible to function on normal hours, as going up at 6 am and going to work
- going from great to poor academic results, traumatic experience.

what helps me:
- mild exercise
- daily walks in sunshine, sunshine helps a lot
- some vitamins and nutritions help
- drinking tea helps stomach and bowl
- not drinking cold water helps my stomach
- going to psychiatrist for stress relief
- taking calm bath at home
- all kinds of massage does magic
- acupuncture on top of head, had amazing effect 10 years ago, as if i had an pressure in head that was released
- seeing psychiatrist on regular basis.
- not masturbating as this gives stronger orgasm than normal sex.
- remembering that most doctors (in this matter) are completely incompetent, i must push this matter to get any help from them, they wont do it for me, they always diagnose me as hypocondric or depressed.
- discussing this matter on a regular basis with my partner, who by the way is a wonderful and understanding woman, it can work with an ongoing relationship, i am living proof of it.
- regularly checking this forum to see that there is development in the subject.
- staying away from very stressful moments both at work and home since they will push me over the edge and cause trauma or deep depression.
- trying to get a regular life with daily routines and lots of sleep. good sleep helps the most.
- staying away from all kinds of pornography

always do this before sex:
- eat well and lots some days before sex; meat and sallad with garlic dressing works well for me.
- take a niacin, B-vitamin, zink, magnesium and multivitamin pill
- warm up by not going into thrusting immediately, work up the heat.

during sex:
- get under the sheets so you dont get cold.
- if you want to be symptom free, dont ejaculate.
- if you are about to ejaculate, never ever hold back the spermicide inside the penis.
- at climax, try your best to relax, dont make it too intense. Breathe naturally, most guys forget it at climax.
- make sure you empty the sack, let it all out.

after sex:
- go directly to shower, drag the penis back and forth to make sure you get everything out.
- take a really good cleansing shower with lots of soap and always directly after shower go to bathroom to urinate and "clean the pipe". Make sure to remove any spermicide from body and system.
- take yet again a niacin pill
- drink lots of warm water, like tea, but not coffee
- have a fruit, like a banana, gives quick energy.
- stay warm with lots of clothes on
- dont try to fall asleep immediately, it wont work
- listen to calm and relaxing music, avoid anything that puts a strain on body, heart or mind.
- make sure to eat lots of protein and sallad up to 7 days after sex.make sure to eat many different ingredients.
- up to 2 weeks after sex avoid all kinds of heavy duty work and strain on body and mind.
- dont have sex more then every two weeks if you are not on a treatment or have a plan for how to cope with the symptoms.

Last but for me most important:
Never ever try to get healthier by having sex if you are feeling tired, weak, depressed, confused etc. Many newspaper will tell you its good for you to have lots of sex and that it reveals you from headache, pain, bad mood etc. This is not the case for those of us suffering from POIS. Before having sex you should feel strong and healthy. Not the other way around. If you are feeling week the orgasm will turn you even weaker.

If you cant ejaculate without severe symptoms, then dont do it. Put your focus on giving your partner a great orgasm. Become a master of the female orgasm, its actually fun and it strengthens your self esteem during this painful period of your life. Dont forget, there will be a cure for this, for sure.
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« Reply #18104 on: 17/04/2013 17:19:15 »

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« Reply #18105 on: 17/04/2013 20:45:25 »
I am new here so I am not sure what your theories are.

I was diagnosed with Crohn disease (but only a gluten free diet has helped me, meaning I could be Celiac but no one wants to authorize a capsule endoscopy), past sufferer of asthma and Cushing syndrome. My biggest problems are that POIS gives me flare ups of the IBD disease.  My symptoms are: brain fog, sinusitis, fatigue, bad memory, diarrhea, intese pain in the small intestine(ileum), violent mood changes and sore throat. Since diamine oxidase (enzyme that breaks down histamine) is produced in the small intestine (which is damaged), I theorize that I may have histamine intolerance. My other problem are nocturnal emissions that are happening in less than 5 days all the time (wich destroys me), How can I stop this nocturnal BS? I can't find anything about stopping that. On a side note, I never even noticed POIS while on Prednisone(which induced
Cushing's syndrome), but the secondary effects made me stop.

Here is some info on histamine intolerance but I suggest you all look it up by yourselves, as I am too ocupied to elaborate right now.

http://lsialab.com/gb/Histamine_Intolerance_Test

http://ajpregu.physiology.org/content/275/4/R969.full

http://histamino.wordpress.com/category/histamine-intolerance/symptoms-of-histamine-intolerance/

http://www.allergyuk.org/common-food-intolerances/histamine-intolerance

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/85/5/1185.full

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« Reply #18106 on: 17/04/2013 21:53:23 »
My biggest problems are that POIS gives me flare ups of the IBD disease.  My symptoms are: brain fog, sinusitis, fatigue, bad memory, diarrhea, intese pain in the small intestine(ileum), violent mood changes and sore throat .... On a side note, I never even noticed POIS while on Prednisone(which induced Cushing's syndrome), but the secondary effects made me stop.

May want to consider the possibility of systemic vasculitis caused by autoimmunity as the cause :
it could cause all of the above and would go into remission with systemic steroid treatment (Prednisone).

If your sinusitis causes nasal bleeding have an ENT doctor, who knows what vasculitis looks like, scope your nose, (more accessible than your small intestine) ...

Quote from: mayoclinic
Vasculitis Symptoms ... Fatigue , Nerve problems [CNS & PNS], inflammation of the blood vessels in your nose, sinuses, throat ...
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/vasculitis/DS00513/DSECTION=symptoms

Quote from: American Journal of Physiology
The association between IBD and systemic vasculitis is well known ... Examination of the resected intestine of CD [Crohn's Disease] patients has found evidence of granulomatous microvasculitis , which suggests common pathophysiological mechanisms 
http://ajpheart.physiology.org/content/285/5/H1791.full

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Nose: the inside of the nose is often affected by vasculitis, so there can be nosebleeds.
http://www.kidney.org.uk/Medical-Info/kidney-disease/vasc.html


BTW anti-histamine medications are used to treat vasculitis ...

Quote from: merck
Vasculitis treatment ... Antihistamines and sometimes low-dose corticosteroids
http://www.merckmanuals.com/professional/musculoskeletal_and_connective_tissue_disorders/vasculitis/cutaneous_vasculitis.html
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« Reply #18107 on: 18/04/2013 05:48:47 »
Would like to add my symptoms once again if it helps someone figure out a cure for this f*cking problem of mine...


Haha i laughed when i read that. I feel the same way sometimes.  Im gonna tey not drinking cold water, never considered that before, thanks
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« Reply #18108 on: 19/04/2013 21:28:58 »
Dear POIS sufferers,

Due to  a lof of interest  in  balancing and  me not being able to cope with all these e-mails.  I have a suggestion.  Anyone  who is interested in getting  balanced and  getting rid of  all your deceases   and POIS,  can   contact     Catherine  Richards,    her e-mail is  Kater_am@yahoo.com.  She is  ARL practitioner . You can  do your hairtest with her.  According to your  hairtest results you can  either go on nutritional balancing program  which is excellent , or  if you dont have discipline or  you cant afford it, I could help you to get  balanced  .  I recieve a lot of   letters from people who have  not done any  tests ,  sorry , but I cant just make stuff up, I  dont have  that much time to  do the guessing and leading people on  daily  basis.

Good luck,
Herman

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« Reply #18109 on: 20/04/2013 18:17:42 »
... contact Catherine  Richards, ...  You can  do your hairtest with her.  According to your  hairtest results you can  either go on nutritional balancing program ...

Before you contact Ms Richards please read this first ... http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/hair.html

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« Reply #18110 on: 20/04/2013 18:20:53 »
Thanks for the warning RD!

On a different topic has anyone heard from Nathan123?  He was suppose to have a follow up appointment with his Ayurveda doctor about his successful treatment.  Anyone know what happened?

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« Reply #18111 on: 20/04/2013 21:16:44 »
It's been two years since I discovered this forum (I was a silent reader until July last year though). It was absolutely one of the best moments in my life because that was the day my obscure illness went from being some abstract thing (that I thought I might never get rid of) to a 100% concrete illness with a cure on the horizon. And I couldn't think of any better people to be around on our journey to getting this cure, those like demografx & Daveman, and Daniel for being such a maverick and always very familiar, clear and rational, and of course kurtosis and everyone else here. We are finally all closer than ever to solving this problem and getting back our functional lives. Thanks all! :)

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« Reply #18112 on: 20/04/2013 22:29:20 »
You're a good dude Prancer.  This month marks my two-year anniversary as well. 

I've PM'd Nathan twice over the last 5 days and haven't heard back.  It's not like him not to respond, hopefully he's alright.
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« Reply #18113 on: 21/04/2013 10:08:55 »
Has anyone actualy tried Dr. K. L*n's tonics, potions & sanke oils from www.act**nl*ve.com?
I'm thinking about ordering some just to know if it's b.s or not (it's pricey!)
I have seen his theories being mentioned - seemingly independantly - on other websites, e.g,  excess dopamine being converted into epiniphrine & norepinephrine & excess prolactin causing vascular constriction, all due to taxation on HPA axis.
Where the heck has Nathan gone anyway?
Thoughts?

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« Reply #18114 on: 21/04/2013 10:28:50 »
Has anyone actualy tried Dr. K. L*n's tonics, potions & sanke oils from www.act**nl*ve.com?
I'm thinking about ordering some just to know if it's b.s or not (it's pricey!)
I have seen his theories being mentioned - seemingly independantly - on other websites, e.g,  excess dopamine being converted into epiniphrine & norepinephrine & excess prolactin causing vascular constriction, all due to taxation on HPA axis.
Where the heck has Nathan gone anyway?
Thoughts?
dont waste your time and money, that was the first thing i tried. It didnt work. It is all crap.
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« Reply #18115 on: 21/04/2013 19:34:32 »
dr. lin's stuff is hocus pocus.  please search the forum for his name and you'll find an account of many members who were swindled by him in the past. 
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« Reply #18116 on: 22/04/2013 12:48:58 »
Hi all...

Just wanna give you an optimistic update in my POIS case ; I had the worst 6 month in my life(sept2012-March2013) ; I was about 75% of the time in POIS ; SSRI discontinuation syndrome(after 2 years of paxil) probably had an important influence...My advice : never use SSRI's

I've been feeling much better for a month ; 5/6 days of POIS for the month wich is definitly a life change for me(I was about 20/month the past 3 years)...What I do/take :
-Exercise every day or every two days(about 30' jogging) - very difficult at the beginning but it has become essential after a month...and i've much more energy in the day.
-Eat as healthy as possible - minimum junk food and sugar
-Sun exposure
-1mg vit B12
-Krill oil
-1g niaciniamide/day...Niacin flush sometimes before sleep(I think it helps me the day after)
-magnesium
-vitamine C

When I'm symptomatic, I take Ketoprophen + propanolol(block epinephrine/norepinephrine - no more than once a week)...It reduce symtoms by 50%
I've also been taking piracetam...to soon to conclude anything but it has so far an amazing effect in my cognition..i just take 1,6g when I'm symtomatic and it works great...almost no cognitive symtoms.

One month is probably to soon to say alleluia but I restart considering my future and I'm relatively optimistic...I know it's not a cure, but this protocol help me to leave close to normal.

I wanna add that I'm not the kind of guy who find a cure avery month...nothing that that I tried before really helped...I spent about 500 since I discovered the forum.
When I O...i try to keep the sexual arousal as long as possible...it's apparently stimulates Oxytocin release wich could help to regulates the other Neurotransmitors/hormone and avoid spikes.

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« Reply #18117 on: 22/04/2013 22:41:27 »
Hi all...

Just wanna give you an optimistic update in my POIS case ; I had the worst 6 month in my life(sept2012-March2013) ; I was about 75% of the time in POIS ; SSRI discontinuation syndrome(after 2 years of paxil) probably had an important influence...My advice : never use SSRI's

how does your training effect your sleep pattern? better or worse?

when i train extensively my sleep disappears totally, can be awake for days.

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« Reply #18118 on: 23/04/2013 07:56:04 »
Hello all, it has been a while since I have been here.  It might be a bit early for me to claim anything but I am a bit excited with a new recovery solution I discovered.  So I don't think I can state the exact product I am using because that is advertising.  But what I have been doing is drinking about 2 fl oz bottle of it after I ejaculate and use one niacin pill.  I found even if I orgasm without preparation I can reduce the symptoms drastically by taking this "dietary supplement" within the hour and then again the next day.  The is a detox product that claims to cleanse at the cellular level and protect against oxidative stress.  It has tumeric to helf the body with efficient detoxification.  It also has burdock for cleansing the circulatory system.  I don't buy this product so I cant really recommend you do the same but I work at a beverage processing plant that has a lot of dietary supplements.  So I have free access to these products and I think this particular one has given me the strongest effect.     I wish someone else could try it too but I don't want to post the name out lol.  I guess I could say some of the ingredients though it is a long list.  IT has Vitamin B3 B6 B12,  Ionic alfalfa, Ashwagandha, Aloe Vera, Fulvic Acid.  The product is also known to work as some kind of digestive aid so I don't get the stomach cramps and bloating like usual. 
I am exicited because I feel like this product gives me some energy back and reduces my crazy headaches by a lot.

I also have used a cactus anti inflammatory wellness drink that worked pretty good too, but not as well as the current one I am trying.

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« Reply #18119 on: 23/04/2013 11:14:54 »
Hi all...

Just wanna give you an optimistic update in my POIS case ; I had the worst 6 month in my life(sept2012-March2013) ; I was about 75% of the time in POIS ; SSRI discontinuation syndrome(after 2 years of paxil) probably had an important influence...My advice : never use SSRI's

how does your training effect your sleep pattern? better or worse?

when i train extensively my sleep disappears totally, can be awake for days.

If I do it too late and at the beginning it affected my sleep patterns ; I guess your problem is just transitory

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« Reply #18120 on: 23/04/2013 15:10:58 »

when i train extensively my sleep disappears totally, can be awake for days.

This many not apply, but you could have difficulty falling asleep if your body is detoxing from heavy metal exposure.  it can cause your mind to race.  perhaps that explains it?  i don't know if this is medically sound advice, but i think working out is good for you, and if you can't sleep after just take a benadryl.  I think after a week or so of working out your sleep will return to normal. 

Are you sitting in a sauna after your workouts by any chance?  that would speed up a detox as well
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« Reply #18121 on: 23/04/2013 20:04:14 »
Ok I orgasmed like twice today and took some of the detox cleanse after, let's see if it can stand up against consecutive orgasms.  I think I do still feel very tired in the morning but the cognitive problems are almost gone I believe.

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« Reply #18122 on: 24/04/2013 05:44:43 »
Isagenix - Cleanse for Life.  I don't see the problem naming products if you or nobody you know gets a financial benefit from it. If we're moderating ourselves, I think we should allow it when there's clearly no conflict of interest.   
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« Reply #18123 on: 24/04/2013 17:26:47 »
... contact Catherine  Richards, ...  You can  do your hairtest with her.  According to your  hairtest results you can  either go on nutritional balancing program ...

Before you contact Ms Richards please read this first ... http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/hair.html

Quackwatch has helped many people to steer clear of questionable treatments. Especially "candida".

Thanks for the alert.

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« Reply #18124 on: 25/04/2013 04:23:34 »
Hey guys,

Do you feel a light sense of psychosis after not having ejaculated in over 10 days or so.

By light psychosis I mean:

Confused
Irritated
Impulsive
Loss of compassion
Loss of spontaneity

And other feelings related to these?

I am curious to hear your answers, thank you.

Chris.

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« Reply #18125 on: 25/04/2013 11:57:40 »
Do you feel a light sense of psychosis after not having ejaculated in over 10 days or so.

By light psychosis I mean:

Confused
Irritated
Impulsive
Loss of compassion
Loss of spontaneity

And other feelings related to these?

Chris, I feel all of those, especially lack of compassion.
The abstinence approach only works to a degree for me.
I am currently taking codien, pseudoephidrine (cold & flu tablets) & alcohol & I feel back to my normal self (pre-pois). I have no joint or muscle pain & I feel strong with good posture. I am at least 50% more productive at work blah blah blah...the bottom line is I feel & function like a normal person. People may say drugs are bad & they destroy your body and so on & so forth, but to that I say: POIS destroys your body! My spine is mangled &  deformed with arthiritis. So any way, opiod receptor may be a worthy avenue of investigation. I had read somewhere about a theory of endorphin deficit. This might have something to do with why pois is bought on by extreme physical exertion in some. F*%ked if I know. 

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« Reply #18126 on: 26/04/2013 06:47:24 »
I wasn't too eager to throw out a name until I was sure the effects could be replicated again.  After my multiple orgasm I got back a lot of the POIS symptoms that day of.  However I feel I am recovering faster now.  It also has completely removed the stomach cramps and bloating I usually get.  I have not experienced any of it while on cleanser.

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« Reply #18127 on: 26/04/2013 13:23:52 »
I will be seeing a doctor soon, will keep you posted about what happens.

I am hoping on some support from you guys with dealing with my doctor because they just dont want to believe me; - "POIS, never heard of, cant be it"

Swedish healthcare just aint the same no longer, f*cking sh1t country nowadays.

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« Reply #18128 on: 26/04/2013 13:26:08 »
Could someone please update wikipedia on latest development?

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« Reply #18129 on: 26/04/2013 13:31:07 »
Yesterday i had a nervous time going to a job intervue, suffered very similar symptoms simular to POIS today, the intervue drained me completely and the day after the shock comes. Anyone having similar issues and experiences?

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« Reply #18130 on: 26/04/2013 13:43:54 »
I could need some help with my personal thoughts about POIS.
Some questions too all POIS men:

- Has anyone here not suffered a trauma in life?

- Has anyone not experienced changes in sleep pattern?

- Has anyone not suffered from porn-, sex- or any other addiction?

- Has anyone a partner that you are completely satisfied with sexually and in every other way?

- Has anyone here only suffered from flu-like symptoms and not mental, cognitive symptoms?

- Has anyone here not had any surgical procedure carried out on body or penis ever in life?

- Has anyone always had a very healthy diet during entire life?
« Last Edit: 26/04/2013 13:46:30 by johanstefansson »

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« Reply #18131 on: 26/04/2013 18:44:39 »
hi sorry not able to post on 16th taking a delay of 10 days wanted to post how I am feeling after stopping the tablets.  Presently from the god's sake, I am good and fine.  There is no POIS symtoms and having an avg of 4 to 5 o in a week. 

Had appointment with my docotor on 16th.  Suggested me to stop all the medicines.  Presently, no medicines has been taken from 16th and stopped diet restriction as posed by the doctor.  Eating what I wanted and feeling good.  Happy to say that I 'am cured and POIS not bounce back for this time and final time and doctor give assurance that POIS will not come in my life again.  Hence, for my POIS there is no more treatment required and its cured. 

Further, due to the POIS I am overweighted, taken many medicines.  As a preventive medicines to cleanse body once, doctors suggested me to have panchakarma theraphy for 12 days where it would be do for preventive for future diseases and to refresh the body.  Starting the theraphy from tomorrow. 

So, I get a great relief from my POIS.  When I was in a POIS stage, I took a oath to god saying that I will help others in our society if I cured from my POIS.  I already started this exercise contributing to others at my level best. 


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« Reply #18132 on: 26/04/2013 20:53:27 »
... has anyone heard from Nathan123?  He was suppose to have a follow up appointment with his Ayurveda doctor about his successful treatment.

... wanted to post how I am feeling after stopping the tablets.  Presently from the god's sake, I am good and fine.

Quote from: wikipedia.org
According to a 1990 study on ayurvedic medicines in India, 41 percent of the products tested contained arsenic, and 64 percent contained lead and mercury
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayurveda#Safety

If anyone was taking poisonous arsenic / lead / mercury but then stopped they'd feel better.

... doctors suggested me to have panchakarma theraphy for 12 days where it would be do for preventive for future diseases and to refresh the body...

No physician worthy of the name would  suggest 12 days of vomiting, enemas and bleeding ...
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panchakarma (Pancha Karma therapy, rejuvenation therapy): Ayurvedic group of five "purificatory steps" or "elimination therapies." Panchakarma comprises: (1) emesis therapy ("therapeutic vomiting"); (2) purgation therapy -- evacuation of the bowels with a laxative; (3) errhine therapy (nasal insufflation therapy) -- intranasal application of "decongestants" such as medicated oils, powdered herbs, and ghee (fat derived from butter of cow or buffalo origin); (4) oily enema therapy; and (5) decoction (watery) enema therapy. Some Ayurvedists regard the two types of enema therapy as one step and bloodletting therapy (Raktamoksha) as the fifth.
http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/dictionary/mdp.html
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« Reply #18133 on: 26/04/2013 21:28:07 »
I could need some help with my personal thoughts about POIS.
Some questions too all POIS men:

- Has anyone here not suffered a trauma in life?

- Has anyone not experienced changes in sleep pattern?

- Has anyone not suffered from porn-, sex- or any other addiction?

- Has anyone a partner that you are completely satisfied with sexually and in every other way?

- Has anyone here only suffered from flu-like symptoms and not mental, cognitive symptoms?

- Has anyone here not had any surgical procedure carried out on body or penis ever in life?

- Has anyone always had a very healthy diet during entire life?

1) I had accidental electric shock just before I got pois, but I really don't think it caused the pois.
2) Sometimes it's harder for me to fall asleep and also to wake up.
3) Not sure, but I crave orgasm/sex very much when I abstain for a long time (like now).
4) I think I'm pretty satisfied, so that's okay.
5) If anything, I suffer mostly mental/cognitive symptoms and less flu-like.
6) I have never had any.
7) My diet is not the healthiest, but I have no health problems because of that (not at all overweight or anything).

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« Reply #18134 on: 27/04/2013 01:34:54 »
My biggest problems are that POIS gives me flare ups of the IBD disease.  My symptoms are: brain fog, sinusitis, fatigue, bad memory, diarrhea, intese pain in the small intestine(ileum), violent mood changes and sore throat .... On a side note, I never even noticed POIS while on Prednisone(which induced Cushing's syndrome), but the secondary effects made me stop.

May want to consider the possibility of systemic vasculitis caused by autoimmunity as the cause :
it could cause all of the above and would go into remission with systemic steroid treatment (Prednisone).

If your sinusitis causes nasal bleeding have an ENT doctor, who knows what vasculitis looks like, scope your nose, (more accessible than your small intestine) ...

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Vasculitis Symptoms ... Fatigue , Nerve problems [CNS & PNS], inflammation of the blood vessels in your nose, sinuses, throat ...
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/vasculitis/DS00513/DSECTION=symptoms

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The association between IBD and systemic vasculitis is well known ... Examination of the resected intestine of CD [Crohn's Disease] patients has found evidence of granulomatous microvasculitis , which suggests common pathophysiological mechanisms 
http://ajpheart.physiology.org/content/285/5/H1791.full

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Nose: the inside of the nose is often affected by vasculitis, so there can be nosebleeds.
http://www.kidney.org.uk/Medical-Info/kidney-disease/vasc.html


BTW anti-histamine medications are used to treat vasculitis ...

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Vasculitis treatment ... Antihistamines and sometimes low-dose corticosteroids
http://www.merckmanuals.com/professional/musculoskeletal_and_connective_tissue_disorders/vasculitis/cutaneous_vasculitis.html
Interesting suggestion. I had a ANA test and turned out negative so that is not it. Blood tests showed I have anemia. High iron dosage has helped me to recuperate from POIS a fair bit.

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« Reply #18135 on: 27/04/2013 02:39:01 »
May want to consider the possibility of systemic vasculitis caused by autoimmunity as the cause :
it could cause all of the above and would go into remission with systemic steroid treatment (Prednisone).
Interesting suggestion. I had a ANA test and turned out negative so that is not it.

Negative ANA does not rule out vasculitis, nor does a negative ANCA.
[ those with ANCA-associated vasculitis can have a negative ANCA test during remission ].

Small-vessel vasculitis (and pseudo-vasculitis) can cause distinctive diamond-shapes on skin and mucous-membrane, more obvious on mucous-membrane as diamond-shaped bleeding-ulcers. This is why I was suggesting an ENT doctor who could recognise vasculits has look up your nose if your nose bleeds. The same type of markings can occur in the bowel in IBD but inside the nose (and palate) are easier to inspect than your small-intestine.

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http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=18961.msg217136#msg217136


... High iron dosage has helped me to recuperate from POIS a fair bit.
Crohns disease can cause iron-deficiency, (via malabsorption and/or occult-bleeding) ... http://www.crohnsforum.com/showthread.php?t=21546
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« Reply #18136 on: 27/04/2013 04:31:57 »
Is that a picture of inside someone's nose?  I'm sorry, but this is absolutely disgusting. 
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« Reply #18137 on: 27/04/2013 04:40:43 »
fornicationDENIED, would you please confirm that your nose isn't bleeding so that we can rule our vasculitis and go back to discussing POIS?  Also, if your body looks anything like the above pictures, go see a doctor immediately.
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« Reply #18138 on: 27/04/2013 10:03:56 »
Hi all,

Anybody ever investigate the Aluminium toxicity lead ? Suposed symtoms of Al toxicity interestingly close to ours. Can you link the beginning of your POIS symtoms to an abnormal Al exposure(vaccin, utilisation of aluminum chlorure deodorant, etc) ?

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« Reply #18139 on: 27/04/2013 12:34:39 »
Is that a picture of inside someone's nose?  I'm sorry, but this is absolutely disgusting. 

What some people are describing as POIS could be systemic-vasculitis exacerbated by the vasodilation which occurs with orgasm. Systemic-vasculitis often, but not always, includes nose bleeds. The diamond shapes on skin and mucous-membrane are a tell-tale diagnostic sign of small-vessel vasculopathy, either vasculitis or pseudo-vasculitis.

What is being described in this monstrous thread as POIS could be different illnesses, some already known to medical science and treatable, (e.g. vasculitis). "Disgusting" pictures like the above could enable some reading this thread to be correctly diagnosed and treated.

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« Reply #18140 on: 27/04/2013 15:43:03 »
I never had any skin mark or nose bleeding, but I am getting a capsule endoscopy so I will keep it in mind.
My gastro intestinal issues were Abdominal pain, diarrhea, mucosa, malnutrition, and GI bleeding
I had ulcers in the large intestine and inflammation in the ileum (small intestine) and diagnosed with Crohn disease but the ulcers could have been caused by Nsaids (advil, etc.) used for muscle pain thanks to malnutrition causing poor muscle mass. Also, a gluten free diet helped significantly ( possible Celiac?). Interestingly, a Crohn disease study showed that poor blood supply causing immune deficiency
http://www.webmd.com/ibd-crohns-disease/crohns-disease/news/20060224/viagra-may-help-crohns-disease 
Could systemic vasculitis cause poor blood supply to the intestines?

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« Reply #18141 on: 27/04/2013 15:44:53 »
Is that a picture of inside someone's nose?  I'm sorry, but this is absolutely disgusting. 

What some people are describing as POIS could be systemic-vasculitis exacerbated by the vasodilation which occurs with orgasm. Systemic-vasculitis often, but not always, includes nose bleeds. The diamond shapes on skin and mucous-membrane are a tell-tale diagnostic sign of small-vessel vasculopathy, either vasculitis or pseudo-vasculitis.

What is being described in this monstrous thread as POIS could be different illnesses, some already known to medical science and treatable, (e.g. vasculitis). "Disgusting" pictures like the above could enable some reading this thread to be correctly diagnosed and treated.
Agreed.

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« Reply #18142 on: 27/04/2013 15:57:27 »
Does anyone here suffer from histamine intolerance? It has very similar symptoms to POIS.

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« Reply #18143 on: 27/04/2013 22:12:30 »
Hey everyone. It has been a while since I was on the forum, I now have better internet access so I can participate again. Currently I am still chaste as usual, and I have had infrequent NEs to contend with for quite a while. I have been working on improving my insomnia for the longest time as it has been the biggest dragon to fight (Insomnia caused by years and years of POIS thrashings).

Recently I began taking protein powder and have had beneficial mental results. My thinking is clearer and anxiety is reduced as a result. My sleeping has definitely improved, it is not "normal" yet but much improved such that I feel better the next day. The protein power is made from vegetable sources, I chose this opposed to whey protein as milk seemed to make my POIS worse years ago. The brand is "Vegan Proteins+", "a complete protein with a balance of all essential amino acids, easy to digest protein from pea, cranberry, brown rice, alfalfa, and hemp".

Last weekend I had the first NE in a long time, and I was curious to see what would happen. Initially I had the mental sensation that something had changed, like my brain was wired and my sleep was poor that night. The next day I had back pain in the shoulder blade area that reminded me of the POIS I initially experienced when I was very young. The good news is that it has been over a week and I haven't experienced any of the serious POIS symptoms: short term memory loss, swollen glands, burnout. So did the protein shield me from POIS? Is it building up my neurotransmitters? Perhaps...

I should also mention the other things I did following the NE. I ate anti-inflammatory foods which always diminished my POIS (garlic, sweet potatoes, blueberries, etc). But, even though these foods would reduce the initial symptoms I would always get a "Phase B" of my POIS: burnout, deadheadedness. I didn't get any of that this time.

I am not claiming any cure, but I thought I'd post my experience because the result of taking the protein is at least a definite improvement for me apart from POIS. I am convinced enough to suggest that protein power ought to be standard protocol for anyone that suffers cognitively: anxiety, depression, insomnia. If my future NEs continue to produce no horrible symptoms (or if they do) I will report.

John21
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« Reply #18144 on: 28/04/2013 11:51:08 »
hi every body
 all pios symptoms refer to cardiac illnes  ,trouble with heart

please try this check  ( Echocardiography) it is an echo test shown your heart cleary

all symptoms refer to that you may have a trouble with your heat valves

it happen if you have got a rhumatic fever in your childhood whitch directly affect your heart valves

that makes your heart work with nogood

The heart? Can you explain why you make this suggestion?

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« Reply #18145 on: 28/04/2013 22:36:43 »
boha90, thanks for the reply. We all see the problems of others through the lens of our own experience. I have never had any heart related symptoms that I know of...quite sure POIS is something else, at least for me.

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« Reply #18146 on: 29/04/2013 00:25:15 »
hi every body
 all pios symptoms refer to cardiac illnes  ,trouble with heart

please try this check  ( Echocardiography) it is an echo test shown your heart cleary

all symptoms refer to that you may have a trouble with your heat valves

it happen if you have got a rhumatic fever in your childhood whitch directly affect your heart valves

that makes your heart work with nogood

The heart? Can you explain why you make this suggestion?

Yeah there's really no need for vague statements like that one.  If you have a good explanation for why it could be heart i'm all ears.

Not sure who it was that mentioned about protein powder but i find that quite interesting. Not long ago i realized how little protein i was taking and decided to try and have more fish(sardines, tuna), chicken, steak(which i rarely ate before), and so on. I can safely say that for me it makes a significant difference in terms of brain fog being much less.






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« Reply #18147 on: 29/04/2013 04:46:55 »
Protein powder definitely helps me too.  There are very few supplements i can take which have near-immediate positive effects, but protein is one of them.  Im glad others have noticed the same.
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« Reply #18148 on: 29/04/2013 23:45:59 »
John21 i Will try proteins. Thanks for the heads up.

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« Reply #18149 on: 30/04/2013 00:19:46 »
Yeah, I'm helped by protein powder too. I bought some a few months ago. The brand I got is called optimum nutrition. I picked that one because it has lots of good reviews and a high rating & also because there are many different flavors to choose from (the one I got is cookies and cream). Helps a lot and tastes good too.