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.... most people [with POIS] are pyroluric ...
Few, if any, medical experts regard the condition as genuine, and few or no articles on pyroluria are found in modern medical literature; the approach is described as "snake oil" by pediatrician and author Julian Haber.
Dear RD ... MOre important is the fact that you (and also some other people here) approach to pois without noticing one very importnant fact. All symptoms are triggered by ejaculation ...
Hello to all of you, I'm tracking the forum for a few years. I'm pois sufferer as well, my muscles are weak, mind is dimmed so much, I hear schreeches in my eares, my nose is clogged, my skin is itchy etc. every time I have an O. It lasts at least 3 days.I'm happy for everyone who is cured and I have to say that most of what Gbolduev says sound very reasonable and promising. I did enemas , took 500 Ca , 700Mg and 30 mg Zn and kelp for two weeks and did not see any improvement. So I'm now convinced to try liver flush with supplements. I would really undergo the same procedures as Nathan, despite the fact that Gbolduev's contrarguments are comprehensible. Because the most crucial is that he is cured. But I don't have acces to patchkarma or ayurvedic doctor so I will try this by myself. But I have some questions, especially for you Gbolduev: what diet should I go by ( the same as Nathan? ) How long should I do liver flushes and should I take coffee enemas simultaneously? And what dose of which supplements should I take ( I don't really understand how you count the all ratios and dosages of supplements)?
Had an orgasm yesterday, today hardly any side effects.Have been taking nutritional pill every day for last 60 days with very few orgasms. Pill includes 25 mg zinc among many other things, yesterday I also took two extra zinc pills of 25 mg each. Also I drank nyponsoppa (rose hip soup) afterwards. Only noticed some chest problem as if asthma hit me 25 min later and lasted for 10 min. I normally always get burning eyes and confusion, did not happen this time, its a first, so quite promising. Yesterday I ate fish, potato and spinach, could be it too.Would appreciate if someone else tested this.Also, before this, some weeks ago me and my girlfriend had great sex, she had a massive O, greatest time ever she said, came lots of times, know what? She was sick and confused days after that, so I think I can say that a too good orgasm can make anyone sick. Following days she was also a bit depressed, I took it as a all time low in dopamine.
The forum has rules that we most follow, and part of those rules is keeping the post child friendly.
While I agree that keeping moderate tones is more useful, constructive and civilized than shouting at each other, I would not see how keeping posts "child-friendly" in a POIS forum can be a top priority.
Again I'm really curious to know what's your level of ceruloplasmin and serum copper ;Mines indicates that I have potentially free copper that mess my body and my mind up.... biologic markers of POIS is our only way out.
Quote from: CertainlyPOIS on 06/08/2013 06:18:08The forum has rules that we most follow, and part of those rules is keeping the post child friendly. While I agree that keeping moderate tones is more useful, constructive and civilized than shouting at each other, I would not see how keeping posts "child-friendly" in a POIS forum can be a top priority.For the few months I've been here, I have felt uncomfortable with Herman's way to write his own posts since the beginning, and openly asked questions to him to understand better his bold, sometimes wild unexplained statements, before in public, then privately. Even if I kind of argued with him many times, I must conclude that 90% of the fresh ideas which were useful to me, I got them from those discussions. And not from quotations of wikipedia links or claims about magic pills or potions.Working with Herman, I've found an open-minded and available person, ready to put in doubt his own statements, genuinely reserching for true things, and doing this only for the sake of helping people.Most important, I got real results with him in few months, both POIS and not-POIS related, weaned off hormones, hugely simplified my regimen (I already mentioned that in previous posts). Results I couldn't get (quite the opposite) in many years of swallowing pills, spending money with doctors and making my life impossible.I have also always believed that POIS is not a condition, but the aspect of an imbalance. Working with Herman has given me real tools to have a direct experience of it, and get free of a lot of medical (and alternative medical) crap (sorry if this is not so child-friendly).So it's a bit sad to see Herman go from here, not much for myself because I have a direct link and will keep discussing (and sometimes arguing) with him privately. But because I think that this will become a less interesting place, and many guys will miss the opportunity to work on themselves in a different way.
Thank you for all the rules, rulemaster mcgee. CertainlyPOIS you're being the fall guy here but i know our forum is pretty divided on all this. No question Herman's posts, especially those to other people when they were unsolicited (like to Dr. Kumar) were aggressive and beginning to limit the free flow of information throughout the thread. However, I wish we could have found a better solution. Honestly, I've been trying to reserve my comments and judgment on all this until I know one way or another whether Herman's supplements will cure me. And I promise you that one day in the not too distant future a full review is coming. But the truth is that regardless of how my review turns out, I agree with Urano above. Herman wasn't selling his own product, profiting in any way, or making recommendations far outside the realm of science. There's no question in my mind that he's incredibly knowledgeable and is trying to help. And I definitely feel better from my experience with him helping me. Am I on the path to being cured?... the jury's still out. What's ironic is that without Herman this forum will quickly get less scientific. It turns into people trying miscellaneous herbs one time and saying they felt X% better the next day. Banning members is what Demo did. Some of our best members got Demo's axe. I still bemoan the banning of Willem and Counterpoints and wish Girlwind was still active. Let's tone down the talk on all these strict rules and become a community again.
I didnt decide to point to NSF rules for my own sake, but because other users of NSF report this board to moderators
I didnt decide to point to NSF rules for my own sake, but because other users of NSF report this board to moderators because of the language usage. It only takes so many reports before the moderators decide to close the board. Besides we can discuss POIS without explicit details about personal acts with ourselves and significant other.
QuoteI didnt decide to point to NSF rules for my own sake, but because other users of NSF report this board to moderators because of the language usage. It only takes so many reports before the moderators decide to close the board. Besides we can discuss POIS without explicit details about personal acts with ourselves and significant other.Given the timing of this rules recall, I easily linked it to the recent discussions with Herman to support your warnings to him. And apparently I've not been the only one.If on the other hand the real issue is making a discussion of sexual medical topics (and painful personal histories) suitable for children reading, I would encourage children and their parents to browse the astrophysics or superconductors sections, or maybe prefer Snoopy's strips (which I also love), rather than digging into the muddy details of our disturbing experiences. I'd be curious to read the contents of those reports, and the references to the offending bits.
Everybody one of the rules of the forum is to not use adult language because of kids that come by the forum.
I mentioned this before no one notice, so since i had everyone attentions i decided to mention the rules again When demografx was the moderator he also mentioned the rules multiple times.
Dr. Kumar, you promised to help the people, and where your help or your treatment is not helping?
Also wanted to add to your post, when Nathan was in POIS his Ceruplasmin was low. After recovering from POIS, his Ceruplasmin level reached normal.
The doctor told me.First and foremost I would like to start by some facts that were recently discovered. 184.108.40.206.5.6.7.GOOD LUCK! For starters mark your calenders and fight the urge for 30-40 days, this will help break the barrier and also restore energy needed. Diet, fasting, exercise will help along.
For those interested in hair mineral analysis, here is a recent (2013) Korean study that looked at variations in hair testing results at 3 different labs.http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3582931/#__ffn_sectitleOne of its conclusions is that the interpretation of hair mineral analysis results is challenging because there do not seem to be well established, standardised 'normal' reference ranges for the tests. The ranges vary from lab to lab and so do the interpretations of results. (Of course sometimes we run into trouble with the more established normal ranges for blood tests too. I once had a cortisol test where my cortisol was at the very top of the 'normal' range. The doctor was adamant that my cortisol was therefore normal. But a change of less than half of one per cent would have put me out of normal range and I wonder what the doctor's conclusion would have been then! Personally, I think that my result at least warranted further investigation...)
uranoi dont know. herman said to do the tests, so i did the tests. i dont know what they mean. as far as i can tell, they are inconclusive. both tests were done at around the same time. the copper-zinc panel has everything below the ideal levels, with non-ceruplasmin copper below the low levels. i dont have anybody to interpret these results so i dont know what they mean, i thought maybe someone here would know. i asked the nutritional balancing people, but they didnt know either and didnt give me a proper answer.
one question,any woman have this problem after :O' or this pois is male specific?
Quote from: gondal4 on 14/08/2013 07:14:28one question,any woman have this problem after :O' or this pois is male specific?I think this is not male only problem. I saw some examples over internet where women had the same symptoms we describe. However I didn't happen to see woman that actively participates regarding POIS on any of our forums.Victor
Girlwind was a quite active participant. I think she made big progress by correcting her thyroid function. I read a post a few pages back that said she was banned which surprised me and was a shame.