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When I did my hair mineral analysis test the results came back worse than those with Lyme disease or severly autistic children. Probably the worst the naturopath saw. POIS is BAD. [!]Talking about Zinc... I tried it, but of course not for long enough. Maybe for a week is the longest I've gone since I didn't wanted to risk copper deficiency and serious heart conditions associated with it. I used Zinc Chelate, but wondered if there's a better form? I might give it another go, let's say a month.PS. You should take B6 with Zinc.
Hi friends,Let's give try with turmeric ( curcuma). I've tried it and it seems to reduce POIS symptoms significantly.Here is the way to take turmeric:I add teaspoon of raw turmeric to boiling water and keep the solution boiling for 10 mins until I get the turmeric paste. Then , I add the paste to a cup of full-fat milk. This is increase the absorption of the effective ingredient "curcumin"I take dose directly after orgasm and then regularly until I make sure that the effect of POIS has diminished away.Regards.
Quote from: LupeNL on 24/10/2014 12:25:13I was also very heavy into bodybuilding. I was skinny all my life so wanted to put on muscle. I became a gym freak but with very little results. At one time, I was eating more and more but getting more and more skinny due to malabsorption issues. Your lack of results in the gym plus depression and suicidal thoughts scream digestive issues to me. These go hand in hand with POIS. I strongly suggest avoiding any sugar, grains, gluten or milk. Gut is very often affected by mercury as a major detox pathway. I completely agree with LupeNL. If you can't control your weight/ can't build muscle, the problem is almost always gut related. I went through this myself, for years not being able to gain at all. At times I looked sickly I've been so thin. FINALLY, 3 months ago i got my gut issues sorted out. I was diagnosed with H Pylori which I got rid of. Then I started keeping a food diary to sort out what upset my stomach. I cut out all the things which gave me issues, which include processed foods, dairy, wheat, beans, and i'm still iffy on nuts. I've gained 10 pounds of muscle since then and continue to put on more
I was also very heavy into bodybuilding. I was skinny all my life so wanted to put on muscle. I became a gym freak but with very little results. At one time, I was eating more and more but getting more and more skinny due to malabsorption issues. Your lack of results in the gym plus depression and suicidal thoughts scream digestive issues to me. These go hand in hand with POIS. I strongly suggest avoiding any sugar, grains, gluten or milk. Gut is very often affected by mercury as a major detox pathway.
HelloI just wanted to share my info regarding POISHave tried using 100mg nicotine acid per day, but only relieved some symptoms and seemed to work less with time.I see people posting about curcumin(oids).I was on tumeric extract (high lvl curcuminoids) for treating prostatis.It didn't really help with my symptoms, I took the medication quite often so would've seen an improvement.Something that I found helps with my symptoms is if I have high levels of libido / testosterone post ejaculation.Things that help is lots of vitamins and red meatInterestingly another thing that helped was while I was on Bee venom Therapy I seemed to remained aroused even after ejaculation. Hope my info might be helpful to someoneThanks for all who contribute to this thread.
Hope you join this new group. I've created a new group for people suffering from POIS and who are familiar with MTHFR. Hoping to gather data to see if there are particular genetic mutations that may be causing our suffering. You can find it here. It's new. https://www.facebook.com/groups/mthfrpois/
Two hundred grams of raw carrot eaten at breakfast each day for 3 weeks significantly reduced serum cholesterol by 11%, increased fecal bile acid and fat excretion by 50%, and modestly increased stool weight by 25%. This suggests an associated change in bacterial flora or metabolism. The changes in serum cholesterol, fecal bile acids, and fat persisted 3 weeks after stopping treatment.
Coconut oil lowers the requirement for vitamin E, and reduces the toxicity of the unsaturated fats (see Cleland, et al.), favoring effective respiration and improving thyroid and progesterone production. Endotoxin formed in the bowel can block respiration and cause hormone imbalances contributing to instability of the nerves, so it is helpful to optimize bowel flora, for example with a carrot salad; a dressing of vinegar, coconut oil and olive oil, carried into the intestine by the carrot fiber, suppresses bacterial growth while stimulating healing of the wall of the intestine. The carrot salad improves the ratio of progesterone to estrogen and cortisol, and so is as appropriate for epilepsy as for premenstrual syndrome, insomnia, or arthritis.
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Hello friends,It has been a three and half months, I am writing in this forum. As you aware, the unexpected things happen to me in the month of July and I recovered from that bad incident. I mentioned that all my friends are treating me like a different thing and my family is not talking with me. These things are my illusions during that time. This illusion is due to stopage of tablet Sibilium without any doctor advise. Finally, I realized that I was in illusionary mind from July to Sept.....Now,, I am united with my family, friends and office colleagues. So, god saved me from my suicide attempt due to illusionary mind. As explained in my previous post, from August I started again experimenting cure for my POIS. This time, I tried Indian YOGA. Yoga means it is a kind of exercise / posture and I contacted a Yoga University who also engaged in research in Yoga theraphy and finding a cure for various ailments. In August, I met the Dean of that Yoga University and explained my / our POIS problems. Initially, after checking on me, they come to a view that my / our POIS is due to weakness of the nervous system and they already a special theraphy by Yoga i.e. kind of exercises / posture for Nervous system weakness. I joined the centre and daily one hour I require to practice that. After practicing such thing, after one month, I noticed there is a tremendous decrease in POIS after big o and now I am having the capacity to have three to four times per day and I will be very low degree of POIS for next three days. My therapist told that if I practice same exercise for next four months, I would be full cured for POIS and their view of Nervous systeam weakness is true for me. Further, I also found a cure for reducing the POIS stage to a an minimal extent within 15 minutes................which earllier takes 6 to 7 days come to such minimal extent.........Yes, guys, I found a type of posture / exercise, that would reduce the POIS symtoms to a very minimal stage within 15 minutes........Just within 15 minutes...............Just within 15 minutes.................................just within 15 minutes..................For this, there is no need to take any tablet, no need to inject any medicine, no need to pay any one, its free of cost for me.............................So, now my daily Sex practice is when I am in mood, to have three to four Big O in one night with high level of enjoyment with my wife..........After this, in the morning there would be very less degree of POIS say 30% compared to earlier POIS.............Do the exercise for one hour, this is to reduce the 30% POIS to 0% in next three months after big O as per the therapist suggestion........Further, do one exercise for 15 minutes to reduce 30% POIS to 10%.... Some times, I skip because of lazyness to do this 15 minutes exercise,,,,as my POIS is very less in 30% stage and I am tolerating it.....Finally, after spending approximately 8000$ in last five years, after having illusionary mind (and attempting suicide) due to self exeperiment to cure for POIS, finally in just 15$, I find a cure for my POIS - Now after O very less degree say 30% compare to earlier and also I have exercise to reduce that 30% to 10% in just 15 miniutesSo, I want to share my solution to this forum.....If any one is interested,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,pls revert, so that I can share the fifteen minute exercise,,,,,,,,,Let's see,,,,,,if you find reduction in POIS symptoms in just fifteen minutes exercise,,,,,then my POIS = your POIS and POIS due to weakness in nervous system.........If it works for you, then I can share the complete one hour exercise (after taking the permission from my Yoga University / Research Instituion as they are having the copyright of the theraphy I undergone)..........Also I would like to share that, as there is reduction in my POIS, I am changing my job and I got a job in one of the Big 4 audit firm and I got thrice the pay which was paid by earlier firm to me....this success is only due to high level of concentration and communication skill which I got as I am in 30% stage of POIS after BIg o / and 10% of POIS due to such 15 minute exercise........At this point of time, I am praying the god to made my POIS equals to your POIS....If its true,,,,,,our dream of out of POIS is in next two or three months for all and without any cost and just by doing exercises.......Pls revert, so that, on revert, I would share my first trial of fifteen minute exercise....Hoping for the best....Finally my Dream turns into reality.........................Yes...........In just only 16$
I believe that I suffer from this illness. After orgasm I experience the following symptoms for 1-4 days: foggy head, difficulty concentrating, lack of motivation, extreme fatigue, negative thoughts, irritability, social isolation, tongue tied, depersonalization, low self esteem, feelings of worthlessness, social anxiety, weak muscles, slow thinking, inability to make decisions. I am 32 and I first started experiencing this about 5 years ago. It's possible that I have experienced it for longer but had not made the connection, I am not sure. However definitely when I was younger I did not experience this.It seems that the duration of the effects relates to the intensity of the orgasm and how many orgasms I have, and my overall level of fitness at the time. However, I am always "off" for at least a minimum of 12 hours or so. I find that masturbation without orgasm also results in some but not all of the same effects, mostly I still feel the social anxiety / isolation and depersonalization, but not so much the lack of energy.I have been struggling for years with a porn addiction and I believed this was the source of my problem. However now I am finding even after long periods without porn, sex with a person whom I like and would like to pursue a relationship, I still get these effects and they are debilitating to my ability to build this relationship.I am feeling at a loss and like I will never have a partner because of this. I also believe it may eventually cause me major problems in my job.For me the socialization effects are by far the worst part. Being around others and feeling completely unable to connect with them is a private hell. The only thing that keeps me sane is knowing that it will pass eventually and I will feel normal again.The longest I went without orgasm was 2 months. It was an amazing time, I built some core friendships and got a promotion during this period. Usually I can only last a week or two so I feel like I am in a perpetual cycle of recovery and relapse.I am feeling despondent right now and at a loss. What is the point of all this effort put into life, into working to be successful etc., if there is no hope of sharing it with anyone? How could I expect to have a partner who is okay with not having sex, and would I even want that for myself? Can I handle living in a relationship with regular sex and feeling these symptoms a good percentage of the time? It feels unbearable and I don't believe such a relationship could last, let alone all the other effects.I'm looking for advice on how to proceed. Should I see a doctor? What should I ask them? Should I have my hormone/mineral levels checked? Is there a FAQ for this? Has anyone successfully recovered from this?Thanks!
Folks, I think I found a cure. My symptoms are pretty much gone, after only 3 days. And you don't have to do anything. In fact, that's the whole point:Never eat after 2pm.How does that help? Some hours after a meal, when the food is out of the stomach and out of the small intestine, the body starts a thing called newbielink:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3400812/ [nonactive]. MMC consists of waves of peristaltic movement throughout the stomach and intestines. It is much more vigorous than the regular peristalsis that moves food. It causes the rumbling sound that the stomach makes when you haven't eaten in a while.During MMC, the stomach and the intestine secrete acid and enzymes (even though there is no food), and the MMC flushes these all throughout the small intestine. The purpose of this is to clean up bacteria and leftover food. In other words, MMC is your body's mechanism for preventing/curing Small Intestine Bacterial Overgrowth (SIBO). The MMC happens every 90 to 120 minutes and it only happens in a fasted state. According to some sources, you are considered in a fasted state much later after a meal than you might think. Some sources say 8 to 12 hours after the last meal. In any case, if you have your last meal before 2pm, then, by the time you go to bed, you have a good chance of being in a fasted state. This means that the body can do 4 or 5 cycles of MMC during the night. Otherwise, if you have dinner at 8pm, MMC cannot start until the food has been processed and absorbed. And since digestion is slower during the night, MMC may not even happen at all during the night or maybe happen only once.Wouldn't this type of eating cause hypoglicemia? Not at all, once you enter a fasted state, the liver provides glucose from its glycogen stores. According to some sources, liver glycogen lasts for up to 24 hours. You only need it over night (remember, the fast starts several hours after your last meal, when all the food has been broken down and absorbed).So try having your last meal before 2pm. It will be difficult on the first day (may get headaches and weakness) but it gets better quickly. And then the afternoon/evening become very productive parts of the day. For more info you can check out newbielink:http://www.amazon.com/Daylight-Divine-Eating-Superior-Digestion/dp/0967528658 [nonactive] or newbielink:http://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Eating-Ultimate-Elixir-Youth/dp/0974243450 [nonactive] which both advocate not eating after about 2pm.In terms of what to eat, when you do eat. Try foods that increase your metabolic rate: newbielink:http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/salt.shtml [nonactive], newbielink:http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/sugar-issues.shtml [nonactive] and saturated fats like butter, ghee and newbielink:http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/coconut-oil.shtml [nonactive]. Yes, I know, those are considered the bad guys but they're really not.
First of all my apology to the forum for not posting the 15 minute exercise, I have used. The intention behind this is I thought, whether can I able to add any add-ons to that exercise and I tried many and finally today comes to a conclusion that 15 minute of yoga mentioned in earlier version to be posed and I am posting the. The same is below as follows. a) For the first five minutes – pls do the body lossening exercises i.e. to legs, shoulders, hands, neck, - search in google you find many………b) For next five minutes – Pls do the dynamic warmup exercises. The above two steps are the preppatroy steps for the yoga posute. c) Now pls do the yoga posture Ardha Matsyendrasana (Only Three rounds – Pls not do more than this, as you are not practicing under the trainer). It may take five minutes. Pls do not this exercise in full stomach. Your stomach should be empty. Otherwise there may be some other problems. Suggested timings is morning and in the evening before food. Also, person with knee injury, spinal cord problems should not perform this exercise as it would severe the problem. Compare the POIS at the beginning of this exercise and now. If you find decrease in the POIS symptoms, my POIS is equal to your POIS and God has finally helped us….We won. Update on me:a) In my last post, I mentioned that presently my POIS attached reduced to 30% as I am practicing on hour yoga exercise daily. Now, I find even slight reduction can say 25% attack and this attack is tolerable and this 15 minutes. b) You may know, from last three years, I tried so many experiments and in yoga I tried one. That is to have Sex after that one hour exercise ( I compare taking of Nicain and have sex and accordingly I tried this). So, out of past 15 days, 6 times I had Sex & big O immediately after the one hour yoga exercise and the results are amazing. After big O, now there is no POIS, it is 0%, further I am experiencing opposite to POIS i.e. relaxation of mind and peace can say, it is POST ORGASMIC HAPPINESS SYNDROME (not a syndrome). Yes, if I do, O after one hour exercise, I am experimenting, full of joy, happiness, its like heaven to me…. But, if I had O not after exercise, then again that 25% POIS symptoms. My yoga thereapist told this 25% would come to 0% in just two months. Logic behind my solution: c) As explained earlier, it was the problem in nervous system. Now because of yoga, my nervous system is strengthening. So, presently, I am having three solutions. a) 15 minutes exercise to recover from POIS attack if I had O in the nightb) One hour yoga to reduce the attack from 25% to 0% in next few monthsc) Had O immediately after yoga (i.e. like niacin experiment) to enjoy 0% POIS & especially happiness. Way forward: a) At presently, I shared only the macro level of the solution which I got. If any one of you find reduction is POIS symtoms, and if this theory is apply to all, then I am ready to share full one hour yoga exercise (containing many i.e. loosening exercise, dynamic exercise, pranayama, various types of breathing, yoga posture, relaxation technique). Waiting for your reply.
I have POIS and also a condition called Empty Sella Syndrome, which means that the pituitary gland is pressed flat in its cavity by Cranial Fluid that builds pressure due to an "incompetent diaphragm". This was revealed by a CT scan and I wonder if the compromised pituitary gland plays a role in POIS ? Has anyone else done a CT scan and found any irregularity with the pituitary gland ?My headache gets much worse a day after orgasm or even hot sex (along with the other usual POIS symptoms).
Hello,I am a 32-year old girl from Ukraine, living in Germany. I have the symptoms described throughout this thread for about 10 years, although I understand you are focusing on men here. Until very recently I was not aware that other people also suffer from this and there is actually a name for it.Years ago I underwent some tests and analysis related to my symptoms in Ukraine, but nothing helpful was found.I was wondering if anybody knows about research or doctors focusing on women suffering from POIS? Specifically I also wanted to ask if there is any information available on whether POIS is likely to be inherited? My husband and I are planning to have children and this causes great concern to me.Many thanks to everybody who has contributed to this thread so far and provided valuable information. I would appreciate any advice concerning my situation.Tatyana
Hi Tatyana. I see you seem to have acquired POIS around age 22. A bit later than puberty. Can you remember anything that happened to your life around that time that you suspect may have triggered it?Does it make any difference for you if its sex or masturbation? I assume it doesn't. For many here it is worse with the latter. I thought there have been a few stories of women being allergic to their husbands semen.How many days does it take for you to recover?Has it got worse or better for you over the decade? From the posts I have read on and off over the last 3 years, I have not seen any mention of a hereditary factor. I suspect many guys here are embarrassed by the condition and have keep quiet about it with their friends let alone discussed the condition (which did not have a name until a few yrs ago) with their parents. Mine thought I ended up with chronic fatigue syndrome (which I probably did at one stage) but early on they thought I was just lazy. Personally I suspect there is a hereditary element,,,not that any offspring will necessarily acquire it for sure, but just that there is a genetic weakness in the dna that makes us susceptible. (just my theory)