[DAZ]

This is My first post
I am 24 and I have been dealing with POIS for about 10 years or so (since i first noticed it)

I am using BIOGLAN Supergreens powder
I am using centrum multivitamin
I am also using Niacin B3
to try and deal with my POIS

I think they have all helped to a certain degree and i would at least recommend that if you are struggling you should buy niacin because there are quite a few people that have said they have experienced positive results from using it

check out link 1 in the attachment

the link above is from the pois center
it is a compilation of various niacin user feedbacks. Basically different people talking about their experience with niacin for POIS
you can also find link 1 by simply typing "niacin POIS" into google it should be the first link that comes up from poiscenter

I bought my niacin from SOLGAR and it is the 500MG niacin so you will experience flush when you take it
but flush is simply a result of increased blood flow it is nothing to be worried about in fact i like it.

p.s. there are two types of niacin
      you want the one with nicotinic acid in it which causes flush not the other no flush niacin
  please check out link 2 in the attachment for more information on the two types of niacin::::::

you can find link 2 by simply typing into google "Don't be fooled by no-flush niacin" it should be the first link by chealth.canoe

p.s. I would have pasted the URL of the web pages instead of the attachment but the site doesnt seem to allow me post external links
   

Finding a site like this really made a big difference for me because you dont feel so alone
I hope this information helps somebody the way this forum helped me


Much Love

 

[demografx]

When an Orgasm Can Destroy Your Life

For men with the rare disorder Post-Orgasmic Illness Syndrome, orgasms can lead to days of physical and psychological misery





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The writer interviewed forum POISers and did his homework on POIS studies.

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[akt1]

Hi you guys,

Still wondering here if amino acids may have something to do with pois.. or rather, the deficiencey of amino acids.

Amino acids aid in recovery, and have calming qualities for the body.
I feel a lot better if i take whey protein after working out, in fact i take it every day, and i feel calmer in general. especially in combination
with a vitamin b complex.
Maybe you get anxiety and adrenal fatigue from amino acids deficiency.. making the body not able to deal with o´s?

Here is a discussion where people have managed to cure their general anxiety with magneisum , vitamin bs and an amino acid complex:
Google "Amino Acids and Magnesium cured my Anxiety"

Best regards
akt1

[acronym]

I'd be surprised if its a deficiency of amino acids. Quite a few of us do has digestive issues though. My doctor did a urine test looking for amino acid deficiencies since I had a lot of trouble putting on weight and my amino acid profile came out fine...disappointingly, though that does not mean my enzymes are using them properly. I do feel a bit better on tyrosine during the day and tryptophan at night, but I dont think the cause of pois, but help with dopamine & serotonin.

I have food intolerances  so cant take whey, nor egg protein, nor pea protein. I take hemp protein, and eat fish chicken beef & liver. The fact you feel better taking protein after working out, I'm sure lots of gym goers could say the same as it helps with recovery. Someone low in serotonin would get anxiety (not the only cause) so taking in extra amino acids could help with that, especially trytophan. Trytophan does get partially blocked by some of the large amino acids, so a separate supplement taken away from a meal would result in higher levels than say a roast chicken dinner. Trytophan also converts to Niacin in the body by an anzyme.  The problem for some of us may be insufficient key enzymes and not lack of protein.

Magnesium definitely helps me with anxiety and is a worthwhile supplement for poisers. Are we deficient in magnesium or just need more due to pios ramping up anxiety. I suspect its the later and is just treating a symptom rather than a key cause for pois, given that most of the population is supposed to be not getting enough Mg in their diet.

[John21 (OP)]

Update: I had another NE a few weeks ago and had POIS symptoms again, to me I imagine it to be like a pressure increase somewhere in the body. Perhaps like if cerebrospinal fluid pressure is increased, or if something is swollen in the groin area putting pressure on a nerve. So my previously mentioned improvement from Elderberry is now dubious.

I should mention something that helps my sleep. I take turmeric capsules and B12 before bed each night and this seems to help my general mental health. But I have found that taking dandelion before bed will allow me to sleep longer through the night. Dandelion is a diuretic and it seems like reducing body water might lessen pressure somewhere in the body. I am now taking it in the morning and at night (about 1/2ml - about 15 -20 drops of tincture).

[acronym]

I should mention something that helps my sleep. I take turmeric capsules and B12 before bed each night and this seems to help my general mental health. But I have found that taking dandelion before bed will allow me to sleep longer through the night. Dandelion is a diuretic and it seems like reducing body water might lessen pressure somewhere in the body. I am now taking it in the morning and at night (about 1/2ml - about 15 -20 drops of tincture).

Interesting that B12 helps you with sleep as its generally known as an energiser supplement. Its an important vitamin for mental health. Some people need to take the methylated sublingual form. Liver is a good source of B12 and that maybe one of the reasons I feel good after eating a meal with it. Dandelion is a diuretic but also known as a blood cleanser tonic herb. I actually feel better with licorice extract which has the opposite effect  - fluid retention at higher doses. A great herb for sleep is hops, but it also has estrogenic properties. If you have not tried melatonin tabs definitely give them a go, and valerian is a good sleep herb. 'Deep' sleep definitely helps with pois recovery

[John21 (OP)]

Acronym, B12 helps my overall mental health but I don't think it has any effect on my sleep. I just happen to take it with my turmeric which I like to take before bed as it seems to help with sleep a little. But I definitely noticed an improvement of duration of sleep with dandelion.

[NakedDoc]

I am a 24 year old finalist medical student and have been struggling with "POIS" or "PEIS" (Post Ejaculation Illness Syndrome) since I was 17 i.e the first time I masturbated.
I am a very sharp minded person and used to be top of my class since Primary school.
I experienced my first wet dream the first year of my Secondary school and started masturbating in my third year.
I remember the first time I masturbated, I was to sit for an end of term exam the following day. I greatly enjoyed the pleasure I got from masturbating but I didn't know what was going to follow 1-2 hours later.
I felt confused, heavy headed, cloud minded at first, then fatigue and burning eyes creeped in, I thought it was a nornal experience so I just took a nap and thought I would be back to my normal energy when I woke up, but I was shoked to find myself in the same state as before.
I couldn't retain whatever I read that day for my exam, I panicked.
The next day (during the exam) I was confused, I used to be a beast in mathematics but calculations were not flowing the way they used to be. I just felt like I wanted to sleep in the exam room. I eventually emerged the fourth person in class instead of the usual first position.
It took me about a month to discover that ejaculation was the cause of  my study misery.
I remember when used to search on why masturbation impaired memory but all I found was that too much masturbation had a toll on concentration for everyone, so I thought everyone experienced it.
I had to schedule my ejaculations only for Fridays or Saturdays evenings as I didn't have to go to school the following day which is usually the worst with symptoms. I did it in the evenings as my entire day would be ruined if I did it during the day.
I could not restrict nocturnal emissions though. My experience with nocturnal emissions was that I still had POIS but it's milder and the brain fog usually takes about a day to fully resolve as opposed to post masturbation which usually would take about 5-7 days.
I eventually completed my secondary school with high grades after strictly scheduling my ejaculations and was lucky to join the medical school. I have an understanding sexual partner, I don't experience any erectile dysfunction or premature ejaculation and I have a good intravaginal ejaculation latency time. We schedule our sex episodes only at times when there was a little study burden and not when exams are around the corner.
I know the time will come when she might be fed up as we only do "it" when I want.
I am not a fan of medications as no drugs are "safe". Each and every drug has it's own cluster of side effects.
I personally support the autoimmune hypothesis, where autoantibodies against seminal or prostatic fluid cross react with self antigens in our cells, the likes of Acute Rheumatic Fever or SLE.
An oral corticosteroid, dexamethasone seems to be doing the job for me, just by reducing the severity and duration of the symptoms but not fully relieving them immediately.
I'm sorry for such a long post, I'm glad to have found this forum and would be happy to help every one suffering from this syndrome.

[B_Jim]

Welcome new Poisers !

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[demografx]

Welcome new Poisers !

Thank you, B_Jim!

[Kingkong]

I am a 24 year old finalist medical student and have been struggling with "POIS" or "PEIS" (Post Ejaculation Illness Syndrome) since I was 17 i.e the first time I masturbated.
I am a very sharp minded person and used to be top of my class since Primary school.
I experienced my first wet dream the first year of my Secondary school and started masturbating in my third year.
I remember the first time I masturbated, I was to sit for an end of term exam the following day. I greatly enjoyed the pleasure I got from masturbating but I didn't know what was going to follow 1-2 hours later.
I felt confused, heavy headed, cloud minded at first, then fatigue and burning eyes creeped in, I thought it was a nornal experience so I just took a nap and thought I would be back to my normal energy when I woke up, but I was shoked to find myself in the same state as before.
I couldn't retain whatever I read that day for my exam, I panicked.
The next day (during the exam) I was confused, I used to be a beast in mathematics but calculations were not flowing the way they used to be. I just felt like I wanted to sleep in the exam room. I eventually emerged the fourth person in class instead of the usual first position.
It took me about a month to discover that ejaculation was the cause of  my study misery.
I remember when used to search on why masturbation impaired memory but all I found was that too much masturbation had a toll on concentration for everyone, so I thought everyone experienced it.
I had to schedule my ejaculations only for Fridays or Saturdays evenings as I didn't have to go to school the following day which is usually the worst with symptoms. I did it in the evenings as my entire day would be ruined if I did it during the day.
I could not restrict nocturnal emissions though. My experience with nocturnal emissions was that I still had POIS but it's milder and the brain fog usually takes about a day to fully resolve as opposed to post masturbation which usually would take about 5-7 days.
I eventually completed my secondary school with high grades after strictly scheduling my ejaculations and was lucky to join the medical school. I have an understanding sexual partner, I don't experience any erectile dysfunction or premature ejaculation and I have a good intravaginal ejaculation latency time. We schedule our sex episodes only at times when there was a little study burden and not when exams are around the corner.
I know the time will come when she might be fed up as we only do "it" when I want.
I am not a fan of medications as no drugs are "safe". Each and every drug has it's own cluster of side effects.
I personally support the autoimmune hypothesis, where autoantibodies against seminal or prostatic fluid cross react with self antigens
An oral corticosteroid, dexamethasone seems to be

Hi NakedDoc , what is the dosage of the dexamethasone that you are taking? And when are you taking it? Before or after O?

[Jake81]

Thanks for your post Adolfin.  I've always thought this could be the result of candida or some other type of infection (possibly mold).  Please keep us updated on your results.

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[akt1]

Signing in again...


My pois is now gone i believe..
I take whey protein , Spirulina and wheatgrass in the daytime, every day.
I believe whey protein as well as spirulina helps with pois since it is rich in tryptophan, the precursor to serotonin.
Which gives you relaxation and general well being.


Ive also taken maca powder, wich has given me libido and energy.


But what my "research" has boiled down to is that anything SOUR may work against pois..
Sour stuff in general are antiinflammatory, antibacterial...


So I take Cranberry, rosehip and ginger caspsules before O, and after O.
This has so far eliminated the pois..


Summary:
Whey protein, Spirulina and wheatgrass daytime for vitamines, minerals and amino acids - for general well being.
Pois formula: Hit it with all sour antiinflammatory stuff you can find - Ginger, rosehip, cranberry.


Cranberry can be used against urethritis.. Maybe there is "something" entering the wrong place somewhere.. meaning that one has to prevent inflammation with antiinflammatory measures ( as ginger, cranberry, rosehip etc).


Try Ginger, cranberry and rosehip before o and after o.


Best Regards

[akt1]

Just wanted to add that niacin is also sour...




regards

[akt1]

as this condition is awful, i want to share my progress here in case it might help someone.

I believe it was ginger that made the difference and probably killed pois for me.
homemade gingertea, raw ginger, ginger extract... try them all.

i believe it killed my pois.
I take it before an o.

Best regards

[DAZ]

The symptoms of my POIS match a list described in an earlier post which I have pasted directly below:
Lack of concentration
Lack of cognition
Disorientation
Brain fog <-- most important
Absentmindedness
Confusion
Shortened attention span
Depersonalization
Exhaustion (physically and mentally)
Word finding difficulties
Tongue tied
Decision making difficulty
Inability to comprehend/retain what is read
Impairment of speech and/or reasoning (forming thoughts into words)
Depression
Anxiousness
 
Currently my POIS has drastically improved and I have not experienced any of the above symptoms anywhere close to how they used to affect me; so I wanted to share what I have been taking:
niacin B3
Vitamin B complex (Holland &Barrett)
Bioglan super green powder (Holland & Barrett) –
 
Bioglan super green powder is a supplement powder that contains over 80 ingredients all in one (i.e. spirulina, maca powder, flax seeds and many more). It is a little expensive but you can’t put a price on being POIS free.
 
I have a friend who also struggles with pois symptoms and has now been trying the same combination of supplements for about a week, so I will keep you updated when he gives me his feedback.
I hope this is useful to someone
Good luck

[B_Jim]

Happy birthday to my favorite forum and thanks all the members.

[demografx]

This is...the 10th year of the naked scientist topic.

Yesterday, February 18th, was the exact anniversary day of the
first-ever POIS Internet forum post (by John21, Poster #1) -- 10 years ago.


b_jim posted in June of 2007 (b_jim, Poster #2, posted before me. I was Poster #3).


Look at b_jim's excellent post:
https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=6576.msg95285#msg95285

[Anonymous1112]

Since it's been ten years, Can someone give me a list of ongoing research projects for this disease? What is the current state / going on right now?

[demografx]

Anonymous1112, you can find those answers at poiscenter.com

[creox]

Greetings. 28, Male, European, developer. I was suspecting that this feeling of being cursed or destroyed after sex should not be normal. At lest it should not continue up to 3-5 days. From the age of 26 i also obtained hyperthyroidism (autoimmune) and graves disease (autoimmune). Also chronic HBP. I will try to gather all my personal thoughts and observations in the list. I have good memory (even with POIS ) and I did always track my body and all the breakpoints in my life, but i will try to be short. Please keep in mind that those are only my personal experience, i’m not a doctor and i do not suggest anyone to practice on themselves.1. POIS symptoms can appear in youth and their strength increase during the lifetime.
2. POIS has some relation with endocrine system and hormones.
3. Exercises (especially gym) increase organism recovery rate but do not remove POIS. Also it's kinda not the best idea to train hard with high BP.
4. Eventful days, for example travelling increase recovery rate but do not remove POIS.
5. During POIS BP is even higher than usual.
6. Some basic anti inflammatory drugs based on paracetamol or nimesulide partially remove symptoms for short amount of time (approx: 1 day)
7. Melatonin in drugs help to recover faster. At least when i use them and go sleep earlier than 1:AM i feel much better in the morning even after evening/night sex.
8. POIS has strong relation with immune system.
9. The only thing that completely removes all POIS symptoms for decent amount of time is betamethasone (diprospan).

So the only thing that really helps me is corticosteroid injection. I tried betamethasone for the first time when was fighting to ambrosia (pollen) and was so much surprised when it also removed like 90% of POIS symptoms. I was full of energy during the duration of substance (approx 12 days). During this time i can sleep with woman as much as i want and I keep being multitask, sharp-mind, etc. I guess corticosteroids pulse therapy should help also but i can’t rely on doctors in our country so I can’t test it. Anyway corticosteroids help for some amount of time and you can’t use them for too long. In general they suppress immune system, remove inflammation but also your body is more vulnerable for infections and viruses. Also taking them for too long affect the normal routine of adrenal glands (they check that hormone level is high and produce less or even stop producing hormones).

So basically i have two main thoughts:

• POIS can be caused by autoimmune reaction. This also answers why medicine nowadays can’t do anything with POIS. Because medicine can’t do almost anything with autoimmune disease. Antihistamines are complete trash. Injections of allergens in small doses can last for years and still there is only a chance that they will help. Also those injections require identifying of the allergen.
• POIS can be caused by some kind of infection/virus/bacteria/organictrash. Some of them are hard to identify. Actually for this one i’m on same page with the guy named Adolfin, his messages are few posts before mine.

[akt1]

I would like to update and confirm that GINGER kills my pois.
Even if i get pois after an O, i am able to have an O later on and "prepare" with ginger and then get away from the pois-state that im in.

Ginger is antiinflammatory.
It works best if i take it on an empty stomache maybe 15 minutes before an O. I also take it after an O.
Home made ginger tea works i believe, raw ginger works, and capsules work.

Been a pois-sufferer for at least 10 years.

So heres one testimony about GINGER killing pois.
Try Ginger capsules, ginger tea, raw ginger (just chew and get that stuff down with water) before an O.


Best regards,
akt1

[akt1]

I would like to update and confirm that GINGER kills my pois.
Even if i get pois after an O, i am able to have an O later on and "prepare" with ginger and then get away from the pois-state that im in.

Ginger is antiinflammatory.
It works best if i take it on an empty stomache maybe 15 minutes before an O. I also take it after an O.
Home made ginger tea works i believe, raw ginger works, and capsules work.

Been a pois-sufferer for at least 10 years.

So heres one testimony about GINGER killing pois.
Try Ginger capsules, ginger tea, raw ginger (just chew and get that stuff down with water) before an O.


Best regards,
akt1

So, according to this principle, in order to kill pois do as follows;

Take some antiinflammatory stuff: niacin ( i believe its antiinflammatory?) or ginger (or try some other potent antiinflammatory stuff), on an empty stomach before an O.
That is: Antiinflammatory on an empty stomach before O.

[MrVat7]

Hello
Let me not arrogate anything. I was a POISer since childhood and I have been free from POIS since 2.5 years. Since then i have not ingested any drugs including niacin. I believe to have found out the "Permanent" cure for POIS. And I believe that it is no longer a syndrome.


The reason for me posting is because pois had wasted years of my life. But now luckily by the grace of almighty, i am free. But there is a need that this loss must be compensated. I know the cure, and you need the cure. And i need a certificate of discovery of curing the POIS, which will be helpful to me in future endevours.


Therefore, I want an official certificate of discovery of cure of POIS signed by the researchers, and which can be recognized by the US authorities anywhere in the country. My claim is that you will be free from pois permanently. The mechanism subsurface can be further researched.


The moderators might ban me for this post. But the severe potential to cure yourself permanently and immediately might be lost too.


Hoping for positive response
Cheers!

[B_Jim]

Thanks for good posts Akt1, MrVat7 and Creox. We are happy for your improvements.

[akt1]

Any more news on this horrendous disease?
Anyone who could share their verified cure?

Ginger kills my pois taken pre-o (thanks Vincent i believe, at pois forum) but its still a bit sketchy.
Sad to walk thrugh life and almost being scared of intimacy.

Feel free to share your cures people.

peace,
Akt1

[Vincent M]

Ginger kills my pois taken pre-o (thanks Vincent i believe, at pois forum) but its still a bit sketchy.
Sad to walk thrugh life and almost being scared of intimacy.

Glad to know ginger helped someone else. I generally drink ginger tea made with fresh ginger after my breakfast as it tends make sleep difficult if I take it too close to bed time. Also it tends to constipate me so I try to only take ginger right after I have a bowel movement.

But it is the most helpful remedy against POIS that I've found so far.

[akt1]

Ginger kills my pois taken pre-o (thanks Vincent i believe, at pois forum) but its still a bit sketchy.
Sad to walk thrugh life and almost being scared of intimacy.

Glad to know ginger helped someone else. I generally drink ginger tea made with fresh ginger after my breakfast as it tends make sleep difficult if I take it too close to bed time. Also it tends to constipate me so I try to only take ginger right after I have a bowel movement.

But it is the most helpful remedy against POIS that I've found so far.

I would say Ginger kills my pois with 100% efficacy as long as i just take a good amount of it in some way ( i can eat many things so i just chew down some pieces of raw ginger ) 30 minutes pre o.

Big thanks to You.
Truly appreciate it.

Regards,
Akt1

[demografx]

Testosterone patches work for me. I've posted often about it since 2009, so you'll need to do a little digging here. Impossible to summarize in one post.

[acronym]

So, according to this principle, in order to kill pois do as follows;

Take some antiinflammatory stuff: niacin ( i believe its antiinflammatory?) or ginger (or try some other potent antiinflammatory stuff), on an empty stomach before an O.
That is: Antiinflammatory on an empty stomach before O.

It might not necessarily be an anti inflammatory effect. Its frustrating that a number of people are finding different supplements or meds to help them and they work on different biochemistry. I have had some success with anti histamines like a couple of others. Ginger acts as an anti-histamine. It also acts as an anti parasitic herb.

I also have improvement (but not cure) with a limited diet - pretty much a paleo diet. Numerous pois sufferers on here have reported improvement from doing a diet that treats candida and or garlic. I also have less symptoms when I take high dose Vit B3 but not the flush version but niacinamide version...but only for a few weeks then I have to have a break then go back on it. I tried the flush version but was disappointed compared to some others on here who raved over it curing them or at least dramatically lessening their symptoms. I was diagnosed as an under methylator so for me, something like high dose niacin is theoretically is not an ideal supplement as it reduces methylation.

I have bad brain fog and decided to try the niacinamide version as there has been success with that treating dementia sufferers. It also happens to be a great anti fungal. I have issues with parasites, amoeba type and flukes, which I am struggling to eradicate (so hard to find a savvy doctor on parasites). For me its quite possible that they are the cause of my pois. Not directly but maybe as a side effect of their impact on my body..like malabsorption, but there really is no direct link to parasite infection and an orgasm that I know of. I have also much less pois during period when I was on a anti-parasite drug and had excellent health, but it wore off after a month alas. I have tried raw ginger & garlic as its recommended for blasto, but cant say it has helped my pois to a significant extent (maybe a little bit though). Its hard going though as I feel worse on it...which may be strictly due to parasite die off. Parasites also cause inflammation.

I have not seen parasites mentioned here much as a possible cause of pois with others, but it might be a factor for some, given that quite a few people feel improvement on strict no sugar no carb diet. I got pois at the same time I started to develop IBS and food intolerances.

The raw ginger could well be working strictly due to its anti inflammatory effect. When I have pois I feel like I have brain inflammation. theoretically something like low dose prendisone or curcumin should also work well for you. There was a post from med student recently who said he got great relief from a corticosteroid drug which backs up the anti-inflammatory theory.  Histamine (allergy response) also causes inflammation, and that might be a prior step back in the reaction. Have you tried Benadryl?  Given raw ginger is working for you at 100% you struck gold, so no need to go looking anymore, but I'd be curious to see if it does.

I like to mention a website that some on here who are still struggling to find a cure (or even just reducing post orgasm symptoms) might find interesting for things to try.
https://selfhacked.com [Links inactive - To make links active and clickable, login or click here to register]

cheers

[demografx]

Hi everyone, good news,

Here is the direct link to the document:
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Here is the link to the page where it is listed with the other RFP by NORD for April 2017 :
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You are free and welcome to transmit this RFP to any MD or researcher or clinic you think would be appropriate and could be interested.

[B_Jim]

I would like to update and confirm that GINGER kills my pois.
Even if i get pois after an O, i am able to have an O later on and "prepare" with ginger and then get away from the pois-state that im in.

Ginger is antiinflammatory.
It works best if i take it on an empty stomache maybe 15 minutes before an O. I also take it after an O.
Home made ginger tea works i believe, raw ginger works, and capsules work.

Been a pois-sufferer for at least 10 years.

So heres one testimony about GINGER killing pois.
Try Ginger capsules, ginger tea, raw ginger (just chew and get that stuff down with water) before an O.


Best regards,
akt1

I have 40 caps of ginger. I'm testing this during 20 days.

Here is a discussion where people have managed to cure their general anxiety with magneisum , vitamin bs and an amino acid complex:
Google "Amino Acids and Magnesium cured my Anxiety

the guy recommands Taurine + Vitamine D + magnesium, exactly what I think.

[demografx]

I would like to update and confirm that GINGER kills my pois.
Even if i get pois after an O, i am able to have an O later on and "prepare" with ginger and then get away from the pois-state that im in.

Ginger is antiinflammatory.
It works best if i take it on an empty stomache maybe 15 minutes before an O. I also take it after an O.
Home made ginger tea works i believe, raw ginger works, and capsules work.

Been a pois-sufferer for at least 10 years.

So heres one testimony about GINGER killing pois.
Try Ginger capsules, ginger tea, raw ginger (just chew and get that stuff down with water) before an O.


Best regards,
akt1

I have 40 caps of ginger. I'm testing this during 20 days.

Here is a discussion where people have managed to cure their general anxiety with magneisum , vitamin bs and an amino acid complex:
Google "Amino Acids and Magnesium cured my Anxiety

the guy recommands Taurine + Vitamine D + magnesium, exactly what I think.

Taurine has made such a steady influence  for POIS in general, should we make a special "Taurine" thread at POISCenter,com? (It is difficult to make POIS-specific threads here at the University of Cambridge NSF).

[B_Jim]

I would like to update and confirm that GINGER kills my pois.
Even if i get pois after an O, i am able to have an O later on and "prepare" with ginger and then get away from the pois-state that im in.

Ginger is antiinflammatory.
It works best if i take it on an empty stomache maybe 15 minutes before an O. I also take it after an O.
Home made ginger tea works i believe, raw ginger works, and capsules work.

Been a pois-sufferer for at least 10 years.

So heres one testimony about GINGER killing pois.
Try Ginger capsules, ginger tea, raw ginger (just chew and get that stuff down with water) before an O.


Best regards,
akt1

I have 40 caps of ginger. I'm testing this during 20 days.

Here is a discussion where people have managed to cure their general anxiety with magneisum , vitamin bs and an amino acid complex:
Google "Amino Acids and Magnesium cured my Anxiety

the guy recommands Taurine + Vitamine D + magnesium, exactly what I think.

Taurine has made such a steady influence  for POIS in general, should we make a special "Taurine" thread at POISCenter,com? (It is difficult to make POIS-specific threads here at the University of Cambridge NSF).

I made one but are only 5 or 6 to have a good improvement with taurine. A lot of poisers said me taurine didn't help with their symptoms.


B_JIM, TRT ALSO HAS ONLY A FEW! AND ALSO MANY WHO DON'T AGREE AS WELL

SO MAKE MORE TAURINE THREADS! OR EXPAND ON THE OLD ONES! (COPY THEM TO A NEW THREAD AND ***YOU*** RESPOND

[Sfougos]

 Hi guys.

 I'm 31 years old and i'm suffering from Pois since 2012(Porn addict/compulsive masturbator since when i was 14 and up until 2013)

 Pois for me appears whenever i have precum fluid,not only if i get have orgasm.
 I get really fast an intense jittery feeling(i guess adrenaline) like i've drank 4-5 cups of coffee (i'm taking luvox/fluvoxamine for OCD which blocks the enzyme for caffeine metabolism so i've not drank coffee for about 8 years nor i'm drinking caffeinated beverages).Then my eyes itch and i start to sneeze.
 2-3 days later i'm like a retard,can't think,can't speak,bad coordination..irritable,completely withdrawn etc
I sometimes get a feeling words on my native language its like i use them for the first time..like forgetting if its the correct word i want to use.

 The worst of all is that for the next two weeks,whenever i get upset or really excited suddenly if feel an internal rush that makes my head really numb,like i'm about to have a seizure or start having uncontrollable movements on my face(i don't hve them just the feeling) and i have trouble speaking and articulating.If i'm pois free i don't get that no matter how upset or excited i am.

Antihistamines make me feel better but they don't prevent the crash days later with the extreme brain fog.
 
 All started while asleep, a stubbing short headache woke me up and i felt like i had a stroke.the next day i woke up with HPPD symptoms(was smoking salvia up until about six months before the headache incident)and pois.

Any word of help about what could help me ease my symptoms?

[akt1]

Just some thoughts here fellow pois-sufferers.

Niacin is said to be both antiinflammatory, and act on GABA.
In that case - in order to kill pois - you need;
1. Antiinflammatory
2. Something that stimulates GABA

My main treatments are:
Niacin - to kill inflammation and stimulate gaba (to sooth nervous system)
Ginger and GABA - also to kill inflammation (ginger) and to sooth nervous system (pure GABA)

I would also like to say a big thank you to Waldinger for publishing an article on pois, whcih can be found just by googling "pois". That means that one that suffers from pois can share this article with medical staff, as well as with partners. Hopefully it will lead to a breaktrhough.

Best Regards,
Akt1

[akt1]

Waldingers article:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5001999/ [nofollow]

[B_Jim]

Akt1, I can add that taurine gives me a serious improvement. And taurine has a gaba-like action.

[akt1]

Akt1, I can add that taurine gives me a serious improvement. And taurine has a gaba-like action.

Thanks mate.
Pure gaba made a big difference for me.
Will try Taurine as well.
Antiinflammatory along with gaba is the approach ive concluded from reading here and on pois center.
Thanks everyone.

Akt1

[akt1]

Hi,

Has anyone tried Now Foods - True Calm?

It has a pretty potent gaba-formula... :

True Calm:
Niacin (as Niacinamide)                                   45 mg   
Vitamin B-6 (from Pyridoxine HCI)               8 mg   
Magnesium (from Magnesium Bisglycinate)    6.5 mg   
GABA (Gamma-Aminobutyric Acid)           200 mg   
Glycine                                                           200 mg   
Taurine                                                           200 mg   
Inositol                                                         100 mg   
Valerian (Valeriana officinalis) (Root)             25 mg   


Ive had great success with that in combination with Ginger..
I take Ginger and true calm before an O.
And True calm after when needed.

Do not want to take out anything beforehand, but I Did not get any pois today after 3 O´s...

[sandgroper]

Any word of help about what could help me ease my symptoms?

Porn addict/compulsive masturbator:
At that age, you can only be addict/compulsive if its a problem for you. Just sayin'.

Pois for me appears whenever i have precum fluid,not only if i get have orgasm.
Also reported by others.

I get really fast an intense jittery feeling(i guess adrenaline) like i've drank 4-5 cups of coffee (i'm taking luvox/fluvoxamine for OCD which blocks the enzyme for caffeine metabolism so i've not drank coffee for about 8 years nor i'm drinking caffeinated beverages).Then my eyes itch and i start to sneeze.
 2-3 days later i'm like a retard,can't think,can't speak,bad coordination..irritable,completely withdrawn etc
I sometimes get a feeling words on my native language its like i use them for the first time..like forgetting if its the correct word i want to use.

Ok, this is really serious. You have symptoms of SSRI withdrawal. "Stopping fluvoxamine abruptly may result in one or more of the following withdrawal symptoms: irritability, nausea, dizziness, vomiting, nightmares, headache, and/or paresthesias (prickling, tingling sensation on the skin)." Source:NAMI --> www nami org/Learn-More/Treatment/Mental-Health-Medications/Fluvoxamine-(Luvox)

The worst of all is that for the next two weeks,whenever i get upset or really excited suddenly if feel an internal rush that makes my head really numb,like i'm about to have a seizure or start having uncontrollable movements on my face(i don't hve them just the feeling) and i have trouble speaking and articulating.If i'm pois free i don't get that no matter how upset or excited i am.

All started while asleep, a stubbing short headache woke me up and i felt like i had a stroke.the next day i woke up with HPPD symptoms(was smoking salvia up until about six months before the headache incident)and pois.

OK, you have to take this extremely seriously. You may have Serotonin syndrome or Neuroleptic malignant syndrome - both potentially fatal. All SSRI's have potentially fatal side effects you need to know about, and you need to know about the others too. Here they are: en wikipedia org/wiki/Fluvoxamine Make sure you scroll to the part where it says

"Serotonin syndrome — a potentially fatal condition characterised by abrupt onset muscle rigidity, hyperthermia (elevated body temperature), rhabdomyolysis, mental status changes (e.g. coma, hallucinations, agitation), etc.
Neuroleptic malignant syndrome — practically identical presentation to serotonin syndrome except with a more prolonged onset."

You should never take other drugs while treating anything with SSRI's. You've completely compounded the problem now because your HHPD could be due to salvia or it might be due to the SSRI. You MUST now assume its the SSRI because of the fatal implications. If the HHPD symptoms are due to the slavia then they wont kill you, but you'll be gambling with your life. Frankly, 6 months is way too long to expect hallucinations from salvia. You have serious SSRI related symptoms and you need to start slowly withdrawing from them. Seeing as you are already suffering from withdrawal symptoms this will require very careful planning, but if you withdraw very very slowly you should be ok. It may take up to 18 months.

You need to get expert professional help immediately. Also make use of this site madinamerica.com/ for support.
 

[sandgroper]

True Calm:
Niacin (as Niacinamide)                                   45 mg   
Vitamin B-6 (from Pyridoxine HCI)               8 mg   
Magnesium (from Magnesium Bisglycinate)    6.5 mg   
GABA (Gamma-Aminobutyric Acid)           200 mg   
Glycine                                                           200 mg   
Taurine                                                           200 mg   
Inositol                                                         100 mg   
Valerian (Valeriana officinalis) (Root)             25 mg   

NICOTINAMIDE is the ONLY form of Vitamin B3 effective in treating POIS and is available from Natures Own brand. NICOTINAMIDE is the active or amide form.

The inactive forms of niacine or nicotinic acid DO NOT WORK with POIS. The inactive forms are worse than useless because in addition to having no effect on your POIS, you may experience the known side effects, including "flushing".

The 45 mg of Niacin (as Niacinamide) will do nothing for your POIS except give you flushing.

naturesown com au/vitamin-b3-500mg/

[B_Jim]

It's like if niacine triggers degranulation of mast cells but only histamines.
 On the contrary, degranulation after orgasm might cause an extrem degranulation of histamines and other molecules causing Pois symptoms. So niacine might work like a vaccine.
Maybe this theory is stupid, it's just my idea of the day.

[chris]

I doubt it's anything to do with gross systemic release of histamine. That is better known as anaphylaxis.

[demografx]

I doubt it's anything to do with gross systemic release of histamine. That is better known as anaphylaxis.

Thanks, Chris. Reminds me: my impression of desensitization treatment for POIS (thankfully discontinued by Dr Waldinger) is that it risks potentially fatal anaphylactic shock.

[akt1]

Testosterone patches work for me. I've posted often about it since 2009, so you'll need to do a little digging here. Impossible to summarize in one post.

Thank you very much for your reply.
Have many here been tested for low t?
or low gaba? (if its possible to test that..)

regards,
akt1

[demografx]

akt1, I was tested with low T.

That's how I got the prescription