[duke0knight]

Below are my 2 articles about how I cured myself from POIS.
This was my article about POIS in August of 2015 (below that article is my article a year later in September of 2016):

 POIS NATURAL HEALING:

I was lucky that I suffered from Post Orgasm Illness Syndrome for only 6 months until I found a natural way to heal myself on my own. I have searched everywhere online and have heard that POIS is not curable at the moment and that the only solution so far is to inject people with their own semen because doctors think that we are allergic to our own semen (I dont think that is the case or at least not in my case).

 I AM NOT A DOCTOR so please do not rely on my advice 100%. Many of my statements probably arent 100% accurate but roughly I think they are correct and they did cure me from POIS. I have only been POIS free for the past 20 days (but I had orgasm every night and worked in my office 6 days a week, 11 hours a day - pretty tough on a body and yet NO POIS SYMPTOMS) so Im still not 100% sure that all of these things that Im naming here below work but I just really want to hurry and not wait longer and help people out there who still suffer. In case I do discover some more relevant knowledge about beating the POIS I will write back here or on some other blog UNDER MY BLOG NAME "DUKE0KNIGHT."

From what I have learned after trying for months to cure myself is that all my troubles originated in my stomach and my Adrenal Glands. The CURE was to REDUCE the amount of CORTISOL AND ADRENALIN in my body throughout the day and especially in the seconds immediately after my orgasm:
- too much stress raises the levels of cortisol and adrenalin
- if you are stressed all day long your levels of cortisol and adrenalin are high and your Adrenal Glands keep producing cortisol and adrenalin even during night (because they are used to producing it and just cant stop producing it that easily) so that is why many of us cant sleep well during night. I had NO IDEA that I had stress and I never believed in it. It just sounded stupid to me but I learned that STRESS is very present in our lives and really damages our bodies.
- YOGA helped me a lot. I go to yoga 3 times a week. At first I didnt want to go to Yoga because its boring but after doing it 5 times I started recognizing how bad my breathing was and how stressed I actually was during the day. I believe that through correct breathing we reduce stress and therefore we REDUCE CORTISOL AND ADRENALIN which are the MAIN REASON FOR POIS. I also did Infra Red Sauna 20 times but I dont think it helped me that much.
- if you think about it the symptoms that you get after an orgasm (or at least thats  how I feel) are very similar to the body feeling after a big stressful moment in life and/or very low immunity and/or getting a flu. THIS IS WHAT helped me realize that CORTISOL AND ADRENALIN are the main reasons for my POIS. Cortisol and Adrenalin are being excreted DURING ORGASM.
- the only natural ways of reducing Cortisol and Adrenalin I could google online that worked for me were:
- Yoga
- A bunch of herbs that REDUCE Cortisol and Adrenalin and INCREASE MELATONIN (Melatonin is very important because it fights agains Cortisol and Adrenalin): HOLY BASIL LEAF, ST JOHS WORT, ASHWAGANDHA, MACA ROOT, KAVA, VALERIAN ROOT, REISHI MUSHROOM.
- make your room PITCH BLACK DARK when you sleep because that helps elevate the levels of MELATONIN. Melatonin is great and you need a lot of it to fight away Cortisol and Adrenalin. The sunlight or indoor light (bulbs, computers, cellphones, etc.) reduces Melatonin in our bodies and that is why we need to keep our bedrooms very dark (cover windows, cover door holes, and take out computers and cellphones or at least put them further away from your bed).
- try having 8-9 hours of sleep and try falling asleep BEFORE 12AM because Melatonin is being produced I think starting at 10pm so you dont want to miss those hours being awake.
- Immediately after orgasm (literally a second after you have an orgasm start doing heavy Yoga style breathing to reduce the excretion of Cortisol and Adrenalin. Try to relax your entire body by breathing and reducing the Cortisol and Adrenalin excretion. During orgasm Cortisol and Adrenalin are being excreted and that is BAD. Im not sure about this breathing thing but I think that it does help me. The thing is that the moment I realized that it is Cortisol and Adrenalin what causes my POIS I hit Cortisol and Adrenalin from all sides with multiple approaches (Yoga, herbs, sleeping on time and for 8-9 hours, breathing after orgasm, etc.) so now I dont know which one of them are actually working and which ones arent that important.

Final thing that I did was get a nutritionist to help me. Im not sure how instrumental she was but she definitely helped me with my stomach issues. Bad stomach issues can also lead to STRESS in your body and we all know now that STRESS EQUALS CORTISOL AND ADRENALIN.
After doing hair mineral test, blood micronutrient test and blood spot test (this is the list of those tests but I think you can do it through any other company that does the same thing: arlok dot com, greatplainslaboratory dot com/home/ , spectracell dot com)  she has shown me that there were multiple imbalances in my body (for example I had too much copper, aluminum and mercury, lack of zinc, etc.) and taught me how to eat well. Her website is: nourishholisticnutrition dot com but you can also go to any other legit natural healing nutritionist and Im sure they will be helpful.

I REALLY hope that some of you will be cured from POIS by following my advice.
Please, email me at duke0knight AT gmail DOT com if you have any questions and I will do my best to answer them.

Thanks,
______________________________________________________________________________

 This was my article about POIS in September of 2016 (a year after my first article):


My POIS is completely gone. The key was to work on strengthening my adrenal glands. The main things that helped me fix my adrenals were:

- Dr. Lam in California who gave me many of his natural tinctures and advice. His wife Doreen was the one who consulted me and it cost me $100 per consultation. I did a consultation every week in the beginning and then every month and now every 6 months.
- Physical therapist Shawn Phillips in Los Angeles gave me a lot of good nutritional and exercise advice since he already had issues with adrenal fatigue.
- Hot yoga helped me immensely as well. I feel that doing yoga 1-2 times a week works best for me.
- At my worst I tried not to do any heavy and intense physical exercise so I did walking and running, light weights with not too many repetitions and light boxing. After I felt better I started increasing the intensity and now I have almost reached maximum intensity in all those exercises.
- I fall asleep before 11pm every night almost. This enables me not to lose melatonin production (which our bodies produce from 10pm to 2am) and allows me to have a good night sleep. Lack of sleep, insomnia, etc. also damages adrenal glands heavily. At my worst, I had to take triple the dosage of melatonin pills (the healthiest sleeping aid out thereI guess) just to fall asleep. They helped me a lot and now I dont need them at all.
- At my worst I took out all the SUGAR and lowered CARBS in my diet. That was insanely helpful. Now I do carbloading weekends, which means that I eat as much sweets and carbs (bread) as I want. But my body is healthy now and can take this.
- Finding a sexual partner, girlfriend, wife, etc. would definitely help. The key is not to simply stop ejaculating. For me once a week ejaculation was working well and now I can do 2-4 ejaculations on many weeks, which I feel like is very normal for a guy like myself, in his 30s. I do have a sexual partner now and Im not watching any more porn. I feel that porn actually really messed me up since I watched it every night almost from age 13 to 30.
- Meditation helps me tremendously (especially right after sex or heavy exercise when I meditate for 10min-20min). I meditate 1-3 times a day. The goal for me is always to meditate 20 min in the morning and 20 min 4 hours before sleep but that isnt often possible so I take 5min or 10min whenever and wherever I can (at work lunch room, park, any peaceful place, etc.) and do my best and this brings me great results. It helps me with sleep and lowers my daily stress significantly. My meditation technique is very simple (exactly like this one: www DOT youtube DOT com/watch?v=rqoxYKtEWEc ). I lay down or sit (mostly lay down) and breathe. I think about my breath going in and out of my body. If any other thoughts come in I slowly try to put them a side and go back to thinking about my breathing. After 5min or 20min of this Im done with meditation. Meditation is boring but the effects are so awesome that I keep doing it. Dr. Lam's deep breathing exercises are also very helpful during meditation (breathe in deeply and slowly through your nose and feel your stomach and then lungs expanding, hold the breath for a bit and then breathe out again through your nose slowly and feel your lungs and stomach contracting).
- Tons of water. I drink 80 to 100 ounces of water a day. But I am careful not to drink a lot of water 30min before food and 45 min after food because water can mess up digestion. I do sip a bit of water though sometimes during meals to soften the food.
- Herbs that helped me (they can all be found at Wholefoods, Lassens, Sprouts, Amazon and other stores):
- Tons of Vitamin C (we urinate out all the Vitamin C that our body doesnt need) - great for immunity and adrenal glands
- Echinacea tincture - great for immunity and adrenal glands
- Beet juice and also all other organic fresh squeezed juices - increase significantly my number of bowel movements. I drink these juices in the morning, right after Ive had 22 ounces of water on my empty stomach. This almost always guarantees a bowel movement within an hour or two.
- Double the amount of normal dosage of Magnesium pills also helped me tremendously and increased the number of bowel movements. However, at my current stage I dont use any more Magnesium pills since I feel much better and my bowel movements are regular. At one point I noticed that probably because I was taking so many Magnesium pills I had diarrhea so I stopped taking them at that point. Diarrhea was a signal that my body has recouped all of its missing magnesium and there was no need for more pills, so I stopped.
- Dr. Schulze's Ginseng Tincture and Heart Tincture ( www DOT herbdoc DOT com ) helped me tons with my adrenal glands.
- Dr. Schulze's Formula 1 helped me with my bowel movements. I would take these pills only when I was very constipated and I would not rely on these pills long term.
- Probiotic pills and digestive enzymes (Im not saying everyone needs them but they did help a bit).
- My current state is that I dont need to use almost any more supplements/herbs/tinctures. I only use supplements if I notice that my adrenal glands are not doing well. Once they are better again, I stop using supplements/herbs/tinctures.

This is roughly my current update as of 9/4/2016.

Hello again,

Can anybody say they are 100% POIS cured. The answear at this stage is still a big NO. Every so often somebody comes up saying do this and that and you cured. CURED is a big word when it comes to pois. If you come on this website or any other POIS forum and you say you cured we only just might start believing you if you have managed to explain what exactly you been going through all these years with POIS. In my opinion even every vitamin, mineral, extract, med, whatever you try always has its pros and cons but it never quiet comes down to a permanent solution. More than likely only the scientists will solve this mistery.

As soon as I can I'd like to elaborate a bit further on my testosterone experience but just 1st want to try get pen and paper so I can also explain this to my doc in the best possible way. Deciding on using TRT sure is a bit of a daunting task when you dont understand it all, besides never mind convincing your doc.  [|)]

Hi 4everfogged

*I beleive no one has cured from pois.
**I think that no one can fined acure for pois except a sick doctor with the same illness,

[acronym]

Still wondering if pois has something to do with serotonin depletion.. since that seems to be sort of an epidemic in our time.. SSRI being one of the most commonly prescribed drugs.. But maybe ssri has been experimented with here.

Niacin and whey (including tryptophan) are supposed to provide serotonin naturally..

With the whey powder you are taking how many mgs of tryptophan are you taking (just curious)? Will you experiment with just tryptophan powder?  Maybe one of the other amino acids is a big deal too. Glycine on empty stomach at night helped me a little with symptoms.
As for ssri's I would not say it is necessarily indicative of serotonin depletion epidemic. Doctors will prescribe ssris for depression regardless if it is caused by nutrient deficiency or hormone imbalance or if you are low in gaba, dopamine, acetyl chloline, endorphines, etc.

[akt1]

Here are The amino acids (swedish):
100g and 30g portions.

Aminosyraprofil per 100 g och per portion 30 g.
L-isoleucin*   5,25 g   1,58 g
L-leucin*         8,39 g           2,52 g
L-lysin          7,06 g     2,12 g
DL-metionin   1,75 g   0,53 g
L-fenylalanin   2,58 g   0,77 g
L-treonin           5,13 g     1,46 g
L-tryptofan   1,45 g   0,38 g
L-valin*   4,87 g   1,46 g
L-histidin   1,26 g   0,38 g
L-alanin   3,85 g   1,16 g
L-arginin   1,88 g   0,56 g
L-asparaginsyra   8,88 g   2,66 g
L-cystein   1,92 g   0,58 g
Glutaminsyra   13,57 g   4,07 g
Glycin   1,30 g   0,39 g
L-prolin   4,28 g   1,28 g
L-serin   3,30 g   0,99 g
L-tyrosin   2,08 g   0,62 g
Total halt protein
-varav BCAA    78,80 g
18,51 g   23,65 g
5,56 g


I took this and niacin before and after o, and i had no pois.
Like 200mg niacin and whey pre o, 100mg The day after plus a wheydrink.
That made me get away with no pois.
Started to feel *#%% pois-bad The day after o, but niacin and whey (or maybe only whey)
Killed that state. Will try to elaborate some more, but i regularly do nofap.
Hope sincerely that it might help someone.
(I take natural whey without artificial sweetener, thus no fenylalanin)


Best regards

[demografx]

Yahoo! general audience publication article about POIS from 2015:

"The Crazy Reason This Man Never Wants To Orgasm"
By Amy Rushlow
https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/the-crazy-reason-this-man-never-wants-to-orgasm-110191674787.html


"This is not something we would wish on our worst enemy." (Photo: Getty Images)

THIS ARTICLE MENTIONS BOTH POIS FORUMS!
demo

[demografx]

<former Mod visiting periodically>


HI acronym [see Acronym's question re NORD's POIS study on previous page]

•The 4th & final report will be out mid-September.

•No fMRI or tVNS study info has been released yet. Probably will not until final publication.

On Aug 29, 2016, at 7:10 AM, Jacqueline at NORD wrote:

Hi Demo,

[The Final POIS Study Public Report #4 -- officially due on September the] 18th is right around the corner so I'll be following up with the PI [Dr Komisaruk] this week to ensure he has the relevant paperwork etc., to submit it, and once passed to MAC for approval get to you ASAP for sharing.

I hope all is well with you.

Kind regards,
Jacqui
NORD

[akt1]

Update

Had a wet dream and got pois (could not sleep, it starts to "creep" in My body).
Took whey and niacin .. And Then i was ok.. Which os a breakthrough for me since whey and niacin
Seems to kill pois -after o-. Never Been able to get rid of it after o before.
I take whey everyday and have experienced a better general well being.
And if i combine niacin and whey daily i almost feel too good.. But maybe
Thats how i should feel - getting enough serotonin?

Have a Nice day
Akt1

[FedUpWithThis]

Hi all, I've had brain fog for a lot of years constantly now. I thought that it would jus be exhaustion because of exercising and then masturbating, but none of my friends had the same symptoms. I've been searching all over the net for brain fog and what causes it, tried to take fish oil as a supplement but I have found out what is the cause of it, although I did suspect it would come from masturbating.

I have found out about POIS a few months ago so I tried see how directly related is masturbation to my extreme exhaustion. Turned up, it happens about 90% percent of the time I get at least one symptom the day after (on the same day, I get bad at socializing and my sight gets slown down).

I have a question, because the matter got worse this month. I used to get brain fog, reduced perception (sight, hearing), very slow reaction time, feeling like I am detached, unable to socialize and a lot of times extreme exhaustion ehich would drag on for a few days up to a week.

Now, I get higher temperature along with the other symptoms (37°C +) and I feel like sh1t (sorry for this), everything hurts me so much, just like if I had a flu and I barely sleep. Oh and I get diarrhea for two days as well. I've had "this" three times in one month, so it's hardly a flu. It's correlated to masturbation, and the symptoms increase with the intensity of orgasm.

I want to know, can POIS give those symptoms? Or am I just unlucky and caught a cold three times in a row?

I am 23 years old now, and had a brain fog for at least ten years (there were a few days in a year that I would feel great during high school and college). I tried abstinence, but sometimes I get to a point where I can't hold it anymore, even though I know how crappy I will feel after... Also there's are wet dreams which I can't help.

I exercise 4 times a week, calisthenics, but I feel like limited because of this.

I am very sad and depressed most of the time because of constant exhaustion and brain foggyness. There are only a few days each year that I feel on point, motivated and energetic... It's killing me knowing how I can't reach my potential. I am afraid of work now.
 

[Titus1]

Hello,

its my first post here.

Does actually somebody know what causes POIS??

I want to give all sufferers an advice! Try NAET Dr. Namudripad Allergy Elimination Technique. It works!! You will not have any problems after ejaculation with this therapie.

Never give up!

Kind regards!

[DAZ]

This is My first post
I am 24 and I have been dealing with POIS for about 10 years or so (since i first noticed it)

I am using BIOGLAN Supergreens powder
I am using centrum multivitamin
I am also using Niacin B3
to try and deal with my POIS

I think they have all helped to a certain degree and i would at least recommend that if you are struggling you should buy niacin because there are quite a few people that have said they have experienced positive results from using it

check out link 1 in the attachment

the link above is from the pois center
it is a compilation of various niacin user feedbacks. Basically different people talking about their experience with niacin for POIS
you can also find link 1 by simply typing "niacin POIS" into google it should be the first link that comes up from poiscenter

I bought my niacin from SOLGAR and it is the 500MG niacin so you will experience flush when you take it
but flush is simply a result of increased blood flow it is nothing to be worried about in fact i like it.

p.s. there are two types of niacin
      you want the one with nicotinic acid in it which causes flush not the other no flush niacin
  please check out link 2 in the attachment for more information on the two types of niacin::::::

you can find link 2 by simply typing into google "Don't be fooled by no-flush niacin" it should be the first link by chealth.canoe

p.s. I would have pasted the URL of the web pages instead of the attachment but the site doesnt seem to allow me post external links
   

Finding a site like this really made a big difference for me because you dont feel so alone
I hope this information helps somebody the way this forum helped me


Much Love

 

[demografx]

When an Orgasm Can Destroy Your Life

For men with the rare disorder Post-Orgasmic Illness Syndrome, orgasms can lead to days of physical and psychological misery





https://melmagazine.com/these-guys-will-do-anything-to-avoid-coming-279fc4eb1a8b?source=linkShare-898c3474bb43-1478806423



The writer interviewed forum POISers and did his homework on POIS studies.

[demografx]

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/lifestyle/sex-and-relationship/111016/this-condition-can-make-orgasms-the-worst-experience-for-men.html

[akt1]

Hi you guys,

Still wondering here if amino acids may have something to do with pois.. or rather, the deficiencey of amino acids.

Amino acids aid in recovery, and have calming qualities for the body.
I feel a lot better if i take whey protein after working out, in fact i take it every day, and i feel calmer in general. especially in combination
with a vitamin b complex.
Maybe you get anxiety and adrenal fatigue from amino acids deficiency.. making the body not able to deal with o´s?

Here is a discussion where people have managed to cure their general anxiety with magneisum , vitamin bs and an amino acid complex:
Google "Amino Acids and Magnesium cured my Anxiety"

Best regards
akt1

[acronym]

I'd be surprised if its a deficiency of amino acids. Quite a few of us do has digestive issues though. My doctor did a urine test looking for amino acid deficiencies since I had a lot of trouble putting on weight and my amino acid profile came out fine...disappointingly, though that does not mean my enzymes are using them properly. I do feel a bit better on tyrosine during the day and tryptophan at night, but I dont think the cause of pois, but help with dopamine & serotonin.

I have food intolerances  so cant take whey, nor egg protein, nor pea protein. I take hemp protein, and eat fish chicken beef & liver. The fact you feel better taking protein after working out, I'm sure lots of gym goers could say the same as it helps with recovery. Someone low in serotonin would get anxiety (not the only cause) so taking in extra amino acids could help with that, especially trytophan. Trytophan does get partially blocked by some of the large amino acids, so a separate supplement taken away from a meal would result in higher levels than say a roast chicken dinner. Trytophan also converts to Niacin in the body by an anzyme.  The problem for some of us may be insufficient key enzymes and not lack of protein.

Magnesium definitely helps me with anxiety and is a worthwhile supplement for poisers. Are we deficient in magnesium or just need more due to pios ramping up anxiety. I suspect its the later and is just treating a symptom rather than a key cause for pois, given that most of the population is supposed to be not getting enough Mg in their diet.

[John21 (OP)]

Update: I had another NE a few weeks ago and had POIS symptoms again, to me I imagine it to be like a pressure increase somewhere in the body. Perhaps like if cerebrospinal fluid pressure is increased, or if something is swollen in the groin area putting pressure on a nerve. So my previously mentioned improvement from Elderberry is now dubious.

I should mention something that helps my sleep. I take turmeric capsules and B12 before bed each night and this seems to help my general mental health. But I have found that taking dandelion before bed will allow me to sleep longer through the night. Dandelion is a diuretic and it seems like reducing body water might lessen pressure somewhere in the body. I am now taking it in the morning and at night (about 1/2ml - about 15 -20 drops of tincture).

[acronym]

I should mention something that helps my sleep. I take turmeric capsules and B12 before bed each night and this seems to help my general mental health. But I have found that taking dandelion before bed will allow me to sleep longer through the night. Dandelion is a diuretic and it seems like reducing body water might lessen pressure somewhere in the body. I am now taking it in the morning and at night (about 1/2ml - about 15 -20 drops of tincture).

Interesting that B12 helps you with sleep as its generally known as an energiser supplement. Its an important vitamin for mental health. Some people need to take the methylated sublingual form. Liver is a good source of B12 and that maybe one of the reasons I feel good after eating a meal with it. Dandelion is a diuretic but also known as a blood cleanser tonic herb. I actually feel better with licorice extract which has the opposite effect  - fluid retention at higher doses. A great herb for sleep is hops, but it also has estrogenic properties. If you have not tried melatonin tabs definitely give them a go, and valerian is a good sleep herb. 'Deep' sleep definitely helps with pois recovery

[John21 (OP)]

Acronym, B12 helps my overall mental health but I don't think it has any effect on my sleep. I just happen to take it with my turmeric which I like to take before bed as it seems to help with sleep a little. But I definitely noticed an improvement of duration of sleep with dandelion.

[NakedDoc]

I am a 24 year old finalist medical student and have been struggling with "POIS" or "PEIS" (Post Ejaculation Illness Syndrome) since I was 17 i.e the first time I masturbated.
I am a very sharp minded person and used to be top of my class since Primary school.
I experienced my first wet dream the first year of my Secondary school and started masturbating in my third year.
I remember the first time I masturbated, I was to sit for an end of term exam the following day. I greatly enjoyed the pleasure I got from masturbating but I didn't know what was going to follow 1-2 hours later.
I felt confused, heavy headed, cloud minded at first, then fatigue and burning eyes creeped in, I thought it was a nornal experience so I just took a nap and thought I would be back to my normal energy when I woke up, but I was shoked to find myself in the same state as before.
I couldn't retain whatever I read that day for my exam, I panicked.
The next day (during the exam) I was confused, I used to be a beast in mathematics but calculations were not flowing the way they used to be. I just felt like I wanted to sleep in the exam room. I eventually emerged the fourth person in class instead of the usual first position.
It took me about a month to discover that ejaculation was the cause of  my study misery.
I remember when used to search on why masturbation impaired memory but all I found was that too much masturbation had a toll on concentration for everyone, so I thought everyone experienced it.
I had to schedule my ejaculations only for Fridays or Saturdays evenings as I didn't have to go to school the following day which is usually the worst with symptoms. I did it in the evenings as my entire day would be ruined if I did it during the day.
I could not restrict nocturnal emissions though. My experience with nocturnal emissions was that I still had POIS but it's milder and the brain fog usually takes about a day to fully resolve as opposed to post masturbation which usually would take about 5-7 days.
I eventually completed my secondary school with high grades after strictly scheduling my ejaculations and was lucky to join the medical school. I have an understanding sexual partner, I don't experience any erectile dysfunction or premature ejaculation and I have a good intravaginal ejaculation latency time. We schedule our sex episodes only at times when there was a little study burden and not when exams are around the corner.
I know the time will come when she might be fed up as we only do "it" when I want.
I am not a fan of medications as no drugs are "safe". Each and every drug has it's own cluster of side effects.
I personally support the autoimmune hypothesis, where autoantibodies against seminal or prostatic fluid cross react with self antigens in our cells, the likes of Acute Rheumatic Fever or SLE.
An oral corticosteroid, dexamethasone seems to be doing the job for me, just by reducing the severity and duration of the symptoms but not fully relieving them immediately.
I'm sorry for such a long post, I'm glad to have found this forum and would be happy to help every one suffering from this syndrome.

[B_Jim]

Welcome new Poisers !

[demografx]

https://rarediseases.info.nih.gov/diseases/10809/postorgasmic-illness-syndrome







http://www.mensjournal.com/health-fitness/articles/are-you-suffering-from-post-orgasmic-illness-syndrome-w448239

[demografx]

Welcome new Poisers !

Thank you, B_Jim!