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Question... how long does it normally take for others to feel the affects? I feel them within minutes.
Demo - I aspire to feel like you do
I think it's remarkable that all of us (I think?) who have had pituitary MRIs, have found something somewhat interesting. (Pyropeach, Demografx, Me). If we were just to take 3 random people from the population, and scan the pituitary, (from what I know), there is less than a (1/10)^3 = 1 in 1000 chance this would happen.
Hey Josh,I have good news!During a med-clinic at the Four County Counciling Center I mentioned my Brain Fog symptoms to the Advanced Practice Nurse in order to clarify the circumstances of the panic attacks I had had a few times recently. She reacted with curiosity, and when I described the symptoms in detail, she said it sounded like ADD. She said that, with what I had told her, she "would be remiss" if she didn't prescribe a psychostimulant such as Adderall or Ritalin.So, last Thursday I started Adderall and it has brought me an unbelievable relief from the Brain Fog!! Truth be told, even without being celebate I feel better on the Adderall than I did when celebate before. I have a bountiful store of energy, and my mind is much more focused. I've been able to sit down and apply my self to my studies with wonderful results. My mood is lifted and my hopes for the future have finally become the aspirations that motivate my actions in the present.I now have the resources to work through my Depression and Social Phobia, and get back to where I belong... in school! Four County is helping me to find work that suits my inclinations and needs, and once I have a stable job, I will start taking classes again.So congratulate me!Later,Nick
I'm wondering if the high testosterone right after orgasm could be caused by sexual arousal rather than orgasm..
B_JIM,Do you really need sugar to do that, 2 O's would do it for me! Seems overkill.....
Quote from: martin88 on 23/04/2009 05:55:04I'm wondering if the high testosterone right after orgasm could be caused by sexual arousal rather than orgasm.. I can get maybe 70% POIS :-) just from over stimulation and NO O! hmmm....PS.
I really think this whole thing is caused by soaring prolactin which in turn lowers testosterone production. So celibacy could probably lower prolactin levels so your testosterone could get back up to par. I also wouldn't be surprised if i had a prolactinoma... and dopamine levels rise after remaining celibate so maybe if there is one it could shrink.
I too am getting very tired of this whole thing as it is really ruining my life! If I could just put SEX and O's behind me I think I would be OK.... until I got stuffed on too many carbs....PS.
Martin, good to see you back posting!
B_Jim, I am like POIS-SUFFERER, 2X for me is "le petit mort" - overkill. I had 3X a few days ago and it reduced my cure dramatically this time.So that + carbs/sugar...I hope you're OK!
if testosterone is not the solution for pois, mean if there are other deficiencies in pois you're probably aggravating the whole thing, really hope I'm wrong .
I was reading about your cure, and you say that more than one orgasm per day diminishes the effectiveness of your cure?May i ask, do you administer your cure after every orgasm, or just once a day?
ORGASM RESEARCHhttp://www.latimes.com/news/custom/scimedemail/la-he-orgasm11feb11,0,7196643.storyabout nervous system/brain research on orgasm. They said it's just now starting to be understood. Some names in the article: Barry Komisaruk, Prof/author, Rutgers; Dr. Gert Holstege, Univ. of Groningen, Netherlands; Beverly Whipple, retired Rutgers, author of "Science of Orgasm".
Quote from: demografx on 22/04/2009 22:52:22ORGASM RESEARCHhttp://www.latimes.com/news/custom/scimedemail/la-he-orgasm11feb11,0,7196643.storyabout nervous system/brain research on orgasm. They said it's just now starting to be understood. Some names in the article: Barry Komisaruk, Prof/author, Rutgers; Dr. Gert Holstege, Univ. of Groningen, Netherlands; Beverly Whipple, retired Rutgers, author of "Science of Orgasm".Counterpoints, maybe this article would be good for wikipedia reference? And "Science of Orgasm" book?
CP, if someone asks, "isn't POIS just psychosomatic?", what would you tell them?
Quote from: martin88 on 23/04/2009 15:35:43if testosterone is not the solution for pois, mean if there are other deficiencies in pois you're probably aggravating the whole thing, really hope I'm wrong .Martin, testosterone is the solution for my POIS.
sometimes I feel out of pois when in fact a long physical work or stress is enough to bring me back in the real world.
we realize that nobody really knows why your testosterone is low and how to restore your own production naturally. To me this sounds very medieval..
every time I found something which is improving libido, my pois was a lot stronger after, that's why I'm a bit reticent.
I would have to say my other posts of relora being the "cure", i noticed what it was doing to me as soon as i took it, i seemed alot calmer. I O'd 3 times the other day and I have to say the first 2 were fine and the 3rd O was the one that started the whole POIS cycle again. It seemed like the relora was working, maybe if I give it a few months without orgasm-ing and just take relora I would see better results.
Just reading the comments regarding sugar / carbs in excess. I fully agree with this. I notice that when POIS is bad (1 - 2 days after) i REALLY crave sugar and carbs and coffee. Its almost like I cant stop myself. Any other time, I dont eat sweet things. I have noticed however, the more sugar i eat, the worse POIS symptoms get. I feel very hypoglycemic, tired, nervous, anxious, i dont sleep as deeply, i have unrestful sleep.When i FORCE myself to just eat very very clean for a day or two after, it usually only lasts a day or two, but instead its very mild. This just reinforces the idea to me, that this whole thing has to do with adrenals and hormones. Cortisol controls blood sugar, adrenal controls cortisol. Sex is linked to dopamine, high sugar boosts your dopamine. If you have low dopamine levels, you crave things that will boost dopamine levels. Its all interrelated.
Quote from: martin88 on 24/04/2009 15:28:42sometimes I feel out of pois when in fact a long physical work or stress is enough to bring me back in the real world.I understand this to mean that we can think that we are feeling good, but that when we are "tested" by more difficult life circumstances we then realize that we are still "in-POIS".Quote from: martin88 on 24/04/2009 15:28:42we realize that nobody really knows why your testosterone is low and how to restore your own production naturally. To me this sounds very medieval.. I agree that it's low, without knowing why, and without certain restoration knowledge, but I don't understand your "medieval" descriptor. Is that because I'm treating symptoms only? Because it's risky? If that's what you mean, then perhaps, at this stage of my life, waiting 30+ years for an answer, I wanted to stop the POIS circus. Finally.ANY approach has associated risks.Quote from: martin88 on 24/04/2009 15:28:42every time I found something which is improving libido, my pois was a lot stronger after, that's why I'm a bit reticent.Me too, if I'm not careful with excess.
goingcrazy, perhaps you might consider cutting back on the frequency rather than total abstinence for a few months. This way it might prevent building of pent-up frustration, then possibly "exploding" into excess which relora might not help you overcome much. Just a suggestion from past experience.
Like I had said in the past, if I abstain, I get horrible urgrs, if these urges are large enough and long enough I start getting POIS symptoms and have not had a release.... so then I figure I might as well have a release and then I feel even worse..... bad cycle.PS.