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Congratulations but once again you avoid the problem with this trick but you don't resolve it. But it seems to prove POIS is mainly hormonal and maybe not/less neurologic as i originally thought. With the semen retention trick you avoid to start the hormonal cycle engaged by ejaculation (DHEA, testosterone). We probably have a temporary difficult to produce theses hormones (Adrenal glands tired ? Lazy ? ... ).
I had been spiritually transformed on some energetic level of my being
...i have contacted on my side an endocrinologist to ask infos about adrenal glands.I hope he will give me new elements. And I wait final results of a case who is testing the low carbs diet.His first results are encouraging. Then, I will write to ISSM to ask if we can have acces to the study they have.
(1)...But no doubt now x amount of semen release equals more likelihood of POIS...(2) ...I am fairly skeptical of a chemical solution after trying a number of things over my life...
QuoteI had been spiritually transformed on some energetic level of my beinghuh?!
Quote from: fiddlerpaul on 23/04/2008 20:33:45(1)...But no doubt now x amount of semen release equals more likelihood of POIS...(2) ...I am fairly skeptical of a chemical solution after trying a number of things over my life...(1) In my experience, semen release has no connection to POIS. "Taoist-technique" orgasms (without semen release) have still led to very strong bouts of POIS for me.(2)Levitra cures 50-75% of my POIS now. The lower % occurs when there is not enough time lapsed between releases. For me, that means weeks.As always, please note that using Levitra without ED may possibly lead to heart problems. Always consult a physician.
but the stopping of the full orgasm to its conclusion accomplished something...
Hi fellow POIS sufferersDo you folks find that POIS seriously affects every aspect of your life everyday ?.I find this a very powerful illness which affects me everyday. This is because the mental symptoms linger for so long after an orgasm.
OK, I know it sounds weird, but its a long story and involved being involved with a 'guru' kind of guy that I somehow picked up on his energy and became conscious of myself as separate from everything, but only for 3 months, I don't know why only that long. It was very liberating and also depressing when it ended. I could elaborate but...well, if you really want to know, let me know and I can go into it.
Quote from: fiddlerpaul on 24/04/2008 06:50:51but the stopping of the full orgasm to its conclusion accomplished something...fiddlerpaul, does this technique relieve your POIS symptoms if you do it while you're symptomatic? I ask because right after doing this technique, my POIS symptoms are greatly diminished when I have them.
Quote from: fiddlerpaul on 24/04/2008 06:47:22OK, I know it sounds weird, but its a long story and involved being involved with a 'guru' kind of guy that I somehow picked up on his energy and became conscious of myself as separate from everything, but only for 3 months, I don't know why only that long. It was very liberating and also depressing when it ended. I could elaborate but...well, if you really want to know, let me know and I can go into it.Please elaborate....was he a sex guru....
(1) too much sugar is very very bad!!! (2) in South Africa there is a drink that helps with this called Lucozade:It consist primarily of Glucose.
Hi everybody. I also suffer from most of the symptoms ever since I began ejaculating.. I am 30 years old.. Similar to the experience of most of you, these rare symptoms have been attributed to psychological factors by the doctors I contacted, which is really disappointing.. By chance, during my efforts to find something through the web, I found the abstract of thearticle published by M. Waldinger and it has been good to learn at least that I am not crazy and there are others like me.. I am living in Turkey, therefore I did not have the chance to talk to Mr. Waldinger face to face, I only contacted him through e-mail and received a few messages (I received the latest one a few years ago) that indicated they have still been working on this issue but could not come up with a final solution.. Later on, I could not reach him even through his e-mail. I have no clue about their progress. With this e-mail I just wanted to say hi to you all. I hope finally we will have a solution for this really annoying and disappointing set of symptoms..
Quote from: hk1979 on 25/04/2008 18:24:22(1) too much sugar is very very bad!!! (2) in South Africa there is a drink that helps with this called Lucozade:It consist primarily of Glucose.hk1979: I thought Glucose _is_ sugar!!!???
Welcome Deloun. You have probably the orginal form of POIS described by Dr Waldinger. My opinion is that the auto-immune reaction after orgasm theory is only possible for long case ( at least 5-6 days). But lot of guys here have symptoms during 3 days. If orginal POIS is compared to a normal flu, i think it's impossible to get the virus, be ill and be healed in only 3 days.
Quote from: demografx on 27/04/2008 20:24:01Quote from: hk1979 on 25/04/2008 18:24:22(1) too much sugar is very very bad!!! (2) in South Africa there is a drink that helps with this called Lucozade:It consist primarily of Glucose.hk1979: I thought Glucose _is_ sugar!!!???You are right that glucose is in sugar, but not 100%. Sugar as we know it, is called Sucrose.Your body still need to change it into Glucose. Glucose and Fructose is better to take directly. They are used for body electrolyte recharge. Diabetes will fall ill when taking sugar, but it is OK for them to take Fructose, as Fructose is called the LOW GI sugar. It doesn't give that spike, therefor it also doesn't have that sugar crash :-)
Did your dr have you do a blood test ? Particularly after an ejaculation when you have the worst symptoms ? You can see page 11 all the cases of POIS. Agjchs is healed with DHEA, Demografx feels much better with dopaminergic Levitra. That's why I think now that the main problem is adrenal glands. The first thing to do for adrenal glands is correct blood sugar. Then make a blood test after ejaculation to check cortisol and DHEA/hormones.
I suppose that you took vitamins/minerals supplement after this, without real effect on POIS. Anyway a good diet is an essential starting point. I'm looking now cortisol and flu-like and other POIS symptom link.
Can you give more details of you diet with protein powder ? (alone or you kept a normal diet ? carbohydrates ? ) Protein powder is not really dangerous for kidneys if you don't abuse it and if you drink a lot of water. Now, it's intersting to understand why you feel better. Protein/Carbs ratio ? Or maybe there is specificly an amino acid in this powder (and not/less the other you took later), effective for sexual hormones cycle ? Can you give the name of this powder ?
welcome uh-clem!!How often you go to defecate after pois? my theory indicates that intestine defecation may occur (depending on the individual and the circumstances) from once every two or three days to several times a day but after Pois even going to defecate some feces and gases still remain generating discomfort This makes one more tired and low defenses. --ejaculation has no impact on my stool. i crap once a day, in the morning, regardless of whether i've ejaculated recently. i've done a lot of work on my digestion etc. however. i take digestive enzymes and occasional pro-biotics when i have any diarrea like symptoms. which i highly recemmend for anyone with diarrea problems regardless of POIS!also, eat more salad and less sugar and less wheat! In the case of those with diarrhea after pois (is not my case) would have to see if it is only in the first defecation. In my case I do not have diarrhea but I can always say that I have a terrible desire to defecate immediately after pois.--any of you with diarreaa ( sorry i can't spell it, but i do feel your pain.)get a colonic or do an emema. they will clean out whatever crap is in there that doesn't belong there.my intuition is that those of you with diarrea symptoms are most likely already experiencing digestive problems and the lack of strength and energy post ejaculation are making this worse.i'm not a doctor, but i would run and get a good probiotic (should be stored in the refrigerater, when you buy it in the store!) and get a colonic or two (once a month) and see what happens. The first days after pois realize that I have very bad breath and gas that fuels the theory that not all feces go to the bathroom--interesting. never heard this. it makes sense that post orgasm all sorts of things in the body are moving and are stimulated. you might also try a digestive enzyme. May be all this sounds funny but I would like to know your views and experience about that. thanks
re: Levitra - are people taking it before or after ejaculation? and are you taking it regularly (daily/weekly) or just before after exaculation?
I am so close to suicide right now