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Well if you look at the list of Candida symptoms...
I'm not saying that those are bad, I was on relora for about a month. After quitting relora my symptoms returned. Take them if you want, but they will not cure anything.
Quote from: John21 on 10/06/2009 10:43:36 I don't drink alcohol, but if I have a "near beer" with 0.5% alcohol I can feel it. Me too. I feel the usual effect of alcohol.Also a 0.5 beer helps me with premature ejaculation and has a slight stimulating and relaxing effect at the same time. Which is caused by hops I think. Quote from: demografx on 07/06/2009 15:14:57Martin, I agree! Also, my extreme jet lag seems related to POIS as well. Perhaps a problem with an other endocrine gland (pineal). I don't know if it's controlled by the pituitary.About the hyper reaction to gym:I know someone who is diabetic and who MUST do exercise to lower his sugar. Eventually you'll have to find a solution for this. Maybe it's a nutritional deficiency aggravated by exercise (ex: cramps) or an effect of other medication I don't know... Maybe testosterone can control this effect now!
I don't drink alcohol, but if I have a "near beer" with 0.5% alcohol I can feel it.
Martin, I agree! Also, my extreme jet lag seems related to POIS as well.
I don't think I've met anyone in my LIFE who DOESN'T have a "Candida symptom" 
Now I do not say, YET, that it is Candida, I will see DR, see what he says..... get tests if any and go from there....
Finally,My doctor believed in me. He was a little surprised and had a doubts when I showed to him Waldinger's report, but finally guided me to an endocrinologist.  
I didn't know this illness was related to sex until possibly as much as a year into it.
Quote from: demografx on 11/06/2009 20:11:10I don't think I've met anyone in my LIFE who DOESN'T have a "Candida symptom" Yes one symptom, but when you almost got the list! thats another thing.... there are all sorts of disconnected symptoms that seem connected to Candida, I have always had achy joints.... this alone everyone gets, mine started at 30. But now through in always slightly dizzy, off balance, mental fog, hard to find words, small persistant headaches, itchy anus, anxiety, a heavy use of antibiotics in my earlier life, different bowel issues, GERD, bad heart burn, itchy skin, allergies to smells like perfume.... its all painting a picture.... Now I do not say, YET, that it is Candida, I will see DR, see what he says..... get tests if any and go from there....PS.
the "near beer" is actually 0.5%. My reaction to it is not POIS-like. When I drink a normal beer and have a night's sleep I always wake feeling unrested, and it has a certain kind of "feel". When I drink the near beer or take the a sip of wine I get the same effect to a lesser extent. I am confident that I am just very sensitive to alcohol. I have previously searched the web for what that says about my system, but I haven't found that it indicates anything.
Speaking of Quackwatch, here is another ducky remedy: http://www.devicewatch.org/reports/aquadetox.shtmlI mention this because I heard a lady who called into a talk-radio call in show swearing that all her medical probems were cured by cleansing the toxins out of her body through her feet! Sounds like faith healing to me. 
The candida spit test is not serious. Candidosis should be considered only if there are clear signs (white tongue, throat...).
How does this whole idea sound to you guys?
POIS-SUFFERER, eat a few pieces of white bread and tell me if you feel a bit drunk... or teary eyes afterwards... give it about 30-60 minutes.
Quote from: goingcrazy on 11/06/2009 22:05:22POIS-SUFFERER, eat a few pieces of white bread and tell me if you feel a bit drunk... or teary eyes afterwards... give it about 30-60 minutes.I always feel a little light headed, not sure if I would say drunk, but I can stumble around a bit!As for the bread, I would not think it will make me feel any different then the current light headedness...Is this a factor, I have not come across this.PS
Pyro, DHEA was mentioned by Martin. We've had a fair amount of discussion about that. Worth looking into?
Pyro, congrats! What a relief.We'll give you a Master's minimum for your compendium. 
Pyropeach : congratulations. I still defend high cortisol/adrenaline "all the time" and low Dhea+steroids/dopamine just after orgasm theory.And then reduce the high levels all the time help to reduce the low levels just after orgasm.
POIS-SUFFERER has mentioned ativan a few times...I'd like to say that I've experimented with ativan a reasonable amount, and it has a negligible positive effect on my POIS. Even when I am feeling really distressed, ativan does not help very much. In fact, it seems to work better when I don't have POIS symptoms.
I'm very curious as to how many people tried relora.tried looking for it here in Israel, couldn't find any though.
Counterpoints, as with your Ativan experience, I have never gotten any POIS relief with alcohol or any similar mood-altering chemical.
Martin : I agree. Even if "adrenal fatigue" doesn't exist as real and prolonged disease, I believe a short "adrenal latency" is possible causing symptoms.
Sorry, I just had to (PS: This is in no way an endorsement of Ativan!)
thanx demografx!in the us, do you need a doctor to get relora?maybe it's easier to ask somone who's coming back to israel.
Well, I jumped on thebandwagon, yesterday. This pic is the actual brand my health food store proprietor carries. Will keep you posted!Hope you all don't think I'm too greedy, what with my testosterone success. But, hey, 30+ years of agony, plus a partially-wasted life, I deserve it....so why not?
My first reaction to it was as that of an aphrodisiac! (You should know that I also get an aphrodisiac effect from Aleve). I chose to ignore that effect, thankfully!
Demo,QuoteMy first reaction to it was as that of an aphrodisiac! (You should know that I also get an aphrodisiac effect from Aleve). I chose to ignore that effect, thankfully! It had that effect on me as well, I was thinking it would make for a nice romantic evening for a couple. I'm on day zero this morning, I'm going to fly without a parachute, no Relora, no garlic. I would like to know what exactly is helping me. Perhaps if I get symptoms popping some Relora will stop it in it's tracks. Wish me well.
Relating to the candida theory: "the adrenaline released by orgasm allegedly helps break down glucose and prevents it from being stored as fat"
relora,fenugreek have kinda failed for me.
I should point out again that the science is really bad on this Candida explanation. Seemingly, for the most part, "Candida" diagnosis is a scam, and the information available on the internet is unreliable. Go to a physician (MD) and ask if you have a yeast infection. http://ezinearticles.com/?Candidiasis-Hypersensitivity-(Systemic-Candida)-Is-It-Really-a-Fraud&id=446093Discusses the issue, in response to Candida diagnosis being put on quackwatch's top 10 fraud list. It says the suggested diet (Nathan Pritikin) for the most part is probably good for you anyways, so I think in that case it may be worth trying. But there are also some things to look out for.
going crazy I think am going to try your route while i wait on the waiting list for endo, and relora,fenugreek and alpha20c have kinda failed for me. But I will try my best to be orgasmic free i dont think sleep will allow it. i was wondering what probiotics are you going for to balance digestive system and also are you trying grapefruit extract.