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Hi All,Demo is now out of surgery and is doing really well !
Closest i have to your question. During two day high- am basically recovering by being super hyper. My tesosterone was aroung 613ng/dlthree days after after orgasm it is 292 ng/dl
Lyme D is very wide spread and it does mimmic alot of diffrent conditions , such as MS, Fibro,CFS, Depression, i know of many that have recieved diagnoses of MS later found out to have Lyme not MS, also CFS, LYME again, with me aswell i recieved the diagnose of CFS,Depression, it turned out to be Lyme, Lyme is an epedemic in north america and around the world its the fastest growing disease and the largest more then aids and cancer, it is the most political aswell because of its long and very expensive antibiotic treatments some LYME suffers have been 10 yrs in treatments, so insurance companies are also involved in the political part of LYME and not being recognized as an epedemic, I am canadian and in Canada we have alot of Lyme cases that we know about more that we dont , but in the USA you guys are full of Lyme infected Ticks, whole familes have fallen ill to Lyme, many of whom are in my chat group, also they are now saying that Misquitos can also infect us with Lyme
[8D]http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/7784/pois.jpg(not sure it's serious)"It's rare but last year I've had 8 patients (5 women + 3 men) who came to me suffering from similar symptoms." says physician and researcher Donald Gibbs, of the Perth institute of Disease studies."they all came to me complaining of extreme fatigue, painfull eyes, swelling, sore throat, rashes and achy muscles."What they had in common besides they flu-like symptoms stunned Gibbs, "they all reported feeling like this almost immediately after experiencing orgasms. The symptoms last for as long as a week and the condition doesn't respond to any medications that I have found . Only time and abstinence seem to relieve their conditions."Comments :- This is the SAME analyse than M.Waldinger made.- I need to know the list of meds he tried. - When symptoms begin soon after orgasm, the symptoms are more powerful and long lasting, as we supposed.
B_Jim,The article is from Weekly World News, september 17 2002, maybe helpful.http://books.google.com.au/books?id=wPIDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA43&lpg=PA43&dq=perth+institute+disease+studies&source=bl&ots=7_Bjc1rGez&sig=C8X-eC6Ep2Qj0NNm9PP6ebGxfGc&hl=fr&ei=4S8kS6C7EsnklAePnfTzCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CC0Q6AEwBzgK#v=onepage&q=perth%20institute%20disease%20studies&f=trueI couldn't find this institute in the australian phone book...In the POIS publication (Dr Waldinger paper) there is a small list of unsuccessful treatments:Antihistamines,prednison. SSRI,benzo helped for the mental state but not for somatic symptoms.
What do you think ? Has the Institute closed ? Is the article a fake ?
I was bitten by a bug on the nose in 1976 and felt very ill almost immediately. Not sure if it was a tick but it seemed too large to be a deer tick. Since I reacted to swat it away I never found the bug. I was not far from East Lyme CT at the time. It was right after that the POIS symptoms appeared.
QuotePablo445 : Thanks for your analyse. I know that's why I add not sure it's serious. Why other medias didn't write something. Are you agree when I say it's the same analyse that waldinger made in 2002 ? Exactly - why do we read about this ONLY in this tabloid? There is probably something true about it but it might be from a conversation someone had with a doctor and the rest was just invented - together with the "Robot ape terrorizes India" etc. For all we know it might have been someone who saw an article about the Waldinger paper and decided to thwart it enough to fit in the Weekly World New. Anyway I understand it could bring additional information but I would not waste too much time on this. If the doctor had claimed to find a cure it would be a different story and we could ask Crocodile Dundee for help.
Pablo445 : Thanks for your analyse. I know that's why I add not sure it's serious. Why other medias didn't write something. Are you agree when I say it's the same analyse that waldinger made in 2002 ?
Not sure if these symptoms related to POIS, My skin is horrible i got so many pimples on face and top of shoulders. I noticed that every time when I poo that its like its covered with a layer of mucus that I have to wipe up, I can see layer of something like oil on surface of water, pretty nasty.
it has occurred to me that any correspondence i have sent out to local health organizations concerning POIS have probably been ignored due to the fact im sending them from a HOTMAIL or GMAIL account. is there any legitimate way to get a .EDU email address without having to pay for it?
i have a question in regards to testoserone that my doctor asked me to post to all of you that could be of help on some information on this matter below and get back to her on it-What happens to testosterone levels before, during and after ejaculation?Thanks John
okay Defsync coming at you with another theory:First Im basing this off of my experiences with Adderall and cigarettes, both which increase Norepinephrine in the brain. Both of these seem to give me an undesirable pseudo-POIS effect, hence why I dont do either.So, orgasm increases blood plasma levels of norepinephrine (see link to article). What if POIS sufferers are those you already have WAY too much norepinephrine in them already, and something like an orgasm sends their body into severe overload, taking the body days to bring the levels back DOWN. http://www.psychosomaticmedicine.org/cgi/content/full/61/3/290Problem is finding a prescription that does nothing but lower epinephrine levels without zonking you out.
THANKS EVERYBODY! I SURVIVED QUINTUPLE BYPASS WITH COMPLICATIONS!! I'M NOW LIKE A YOUNG AND ONLY PARTIALLY POIS-DAMAGED BUCK OF A HORSE. STILL IN ICU YOUR WELL-WISHING GIVES ME LOTS OF STRENGH. KEEP IN MIND THAT SHIPPING YOU FREE NURSIES REQUIRES COD POSTAGE NOT COVERED BY MEDICARE OR NHS!
FROM OUR NORD FRIENDSIf you wish, you can feel free to mention that NORD suggested that you contact him. http://urology.tulane.edu/faculty/hellstrom.html Dr. Hellstrom might also be a good resource for you.
Demo,,I had an O event last Friday night, and I am glad to report that I have had no symptoms. My thoughts are that it might have something to do with my bodily magnesium being heightened, perhaps. I have been consuming two large spinach salads daily for over a week in an attempt to raise my magnesium naturally. I waited to report this to make sure I didn't have any Phase B backlash, but so far so good. Earlier that Friday night I had taken one half a DLPA 375mg and it messed with my head. It didn't feel like it helped me in any way so I don't think I will try it again. But I think loading up on spinach daily is a keeper.
This is encouraging. Do you eat raw or canned spinach?
LJ,QuoteThis is encouraging. Do you eat raw or canned spinach?Mainly raw baby spinach. I have been cooking some though, I have read that some nutrients are absorbed much better after cooking, such as iron. The magnesium idea is kind of a wild guess, but it is strange that everything nutritionally that has seemed to help me has been high in magnesium. Note that more magnesium means more testosterone. Maybe some people need a higher Mg/Ca ratio, or something.
A little note about Lyme disease (I will be tested for it in early January)From Wikipedia:A developing hypothesis is that the chronic secretion of stress hormones as a result of Borrelia infection may reduce the effect of neurotransmitters, or other receptors in the brain by cell-mediated pro-inflammatory pathways, thereby leading to the dysregulation of neurohormones, specifically glucocorticoids and catecholamines, the major stress hormones. This process is mediated via the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis. Additionally tryptophan, a precursor to serotonin appears to be reduced within the central nervous system (CNS) in a number of infectious diseases that affect the brain, including Lyme.
Quote from: John21 on 16/12/2009 23:06:43Demo,,I had an O event last Friday night, and I am glad to report that I have had no symptoms. My thoughts are that it might have something to do with my bodily magnesium being heightened, perhaps. I have been consuming two large spinach salads daily for over a week in an attempt to raise my magnesium naturally. I waited to report this to make sure I didn't have any Phase B backlash, but so far so good. Earlier that Friday night I had taken one half a DLPA 375mg and it messed with my head. It didn't feel like it helped me in any way so I don't think I will try it again. But I think loading up on spinach daily is a keeper. This is encouraging. Do you eat raw or canned spinach?
Welcome back Demo !Once again, thank you very much for all the job you made. All the contacts, all mails sent give a real credibility to our forum.
Welcome Back, Demo! Glad things went well with the surgery!! 
Quote from: EDS on 18/12/2009 15:08:01Welcome Back, Demo! Glad things went well with the surgery!! Thanks, EDS!!Yesterday was Scary Complication #2. I was defbrillated with electric shock zaps to my chest, just like those in TV ER shows! WENT FINE!I much prefer writing POIS posts and emails!All the encouragent here in this shocking ordeal (I thought I had indigestion, not a massive blockage of 5 heart arteries requiring open heart surgery!) has been WONDERFUL. Thank you so much!!!Suggestion to all: get an angiogram, the only way to determine for you. It's very simple. Controlling high BP, cholesterol, with meds is NOT good enough! Plaque obstruction builds "silently and painlessly, but then one day........don't be like me and wait happily to the end. I now feel exhausted-but-on-my-way- to-brand-new-exciting-life!!!!!!I'm so glad you've all become part of my new life.
Demo's new POIS finding from heart surgery?Aldosteronism overactivity of my adrenal gland makes too much aldosterone which signals my body to make little potassium. So I'm now on spironalactone med that is an Aldosterone Antagonist.We'll see soon if it bumps my cure for POIS!!