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daveyboy,Quote...the formula is having alexander technique (try 3 different teachers before you start) and reflexology BOTH every week, within a couple of years your'll be free from it- when you are an expert in ther alexander technique 100-150 lessons. both will deal with the 'flight or fight' mechanism that no drugs can help with. alexander technique eventually allowed me to figure out psychological reasons causing my pois, an operation to have an undescended testicle lowered when I was a child. having such a trauma on my testicle at such a young age was bound to cause pois for me.Any method that acts to reduce physiological response to stress will be beneficial to people with anxiety disorders. If anxiety was the source of your POIS then this solution makes sense. Mild anxiety is probably one type of orgasm aftereffect that affects certain people. Many of us have experienced physiological reactions that we perceive are beyond what mere anxiety can create, and so we don't view these stress reduction techniques as solutions. Consider someone trying to repair diabetes with the Alexander Technique, it may help them cope with the disease but won't be a cure. So while this technique may have worked for you, it may sound overtly simplistic to those who have more extreme reactions.
...the formula is having alexander technique (try 3 different teachers before you start) and reflexology BOTH every week, within a couple of years your'll be free from it- when you are an expert in ther alexander technique 100-150 lessons. both will deal with the 'flight or fight' mechanism that no drugs can help with. alexander technique eventually allowed me to figure out psychological reasons causing my pois, an operation to have an undescended testicle lowered when I was a child. having such a trauma on my testicle at such a young age was bound to cause pois for me.
if i understand you correctly, you getting impression my pois wasnt that severe or full-on, all i can answer that is by saying it was. 15 years of it. when you say mild anxiety it was much more than that, very deep rooted causing years of poor movement. i cant visualise a worse case than me but there you go.
i personally dont like the word 'cure' because it sounds like an outside influence is magically changing you. but it is case of taking the alexander technique as far as you can, even a diabetes sufferer will suffer from poor movement who will benefit greatly in correcting it. poor movement and diabetes go hand in hand. once you gain conscious control of your movement, the natural chemicals in your body start to work as they should. but cure? more like 'control' is better word.
Daveyboy,Quoteif i understand you correctly, you getting impression my pois wasnt that severe or full-on, all i can answer that is by saying it was. 15 years of it. when you say mild anxiety it was much more than that, very deep rooted causing years of poor movement. i cant visualise a worse case than me but there you go. What exactly were the symptoms that you had??
well ive been experimenting a bit lately... returning to an old habit i had back when i was younger... smoking! i had long quit before going abstinent, but uhm yeah thanx to the U.S. govt banning clove cigarettes, which was my poison of choice, I decided I better go out and get a pack before there are none left. (making something illegal because of a FLAVOR? thats a whole other discussion but damn if that doesn't smack of socialism).And you know what I found? For those of you having trouble maintaining 100% no-NE's, I've noticed with myself that smoking a cigarette GREATLY reduces any and all urges related to sex. I smoke just one cigarette, and it's like shutting off the valve for a day. Im not saying it's entirely HEALTHY to do so, but it is something to consider in your quest to maintain zero O's.oh and Happy New Year =) may this be the year that POIS gets national if not worldwide attention! =)
yep, i did leave 'you could' by accident. appologies.it was more a statement directed at everybody.because using biofeedback is an 'air tight' safe way of knowing if any therapy is working, in addition to how good it feels on your health.
a realtime chat will be nice we can organize better if decided to do bigger and better things( which we should). In order to make new forum sucessful we need more ideas and to get more ideas we need more people. I say we start an agressive publizization over the internet. Dean93 what do you need help with.
daveyboy,I used to experience full blown symptoms but now my symptoms are usually quite mild and sometimes non existant. I rack my brain trying to explain why, but my currently I am wondering if it could be caused by a nutrient deficit or requirement, possibly Mg or B9. My symptoms were the most extreme when I used to drink milk (although I do still consume milk products such as yogurt and cottage cheese), and recently seemed to improve with certain foods that increase nutrients such as Mg and B9. Is it possible that your diet has changed such that you might actually be benefiting from this, rather than the biofeedback method?
Happy New Year 2010 to everyone here I really wish POIS sufferers will all go forward this year.I'm about to try fenugreek , PS and few other supplements mentionned here, I'll report the results.I agree with Thisforumrocks that NE are reduced when I'm eating less.Also I think I was recently helped for NEs with a part of PRZ method (Kegel exercises only).
We need a POIS-O-Meter ® !!! John, if you let me join your Popeye Collective, I'll split the profits with ya!
I think the moderator just wants me to go away...
QuoteWe need a POIS-O-Meter ® !!! John, if you let me join your Popeye Collective, I'll split the profits with ya! Honestly, we do. I'll start drawing up plans and ordering parts. 60/40 
Yes, I consider myself to be an expert on true POIS recovery- which is why I delibrately write in arrogant manner about what I know works.
I like the circulation/cardiovascular idea demo and I sometimes wonder about pois sufferers heart health. RE: OXYGENATION- I was in the hospital a few weeks ago and the blood oxygen light sensor on my finger indicated all was well, although it gave higher readings with deep breaths(if you are looking for better oxygenation for heart/brain/muscles/relaxation/etc.). Obvious I know, but most people do not tend to concentrate on their breathing as it is automatic. I wonder if one of these instant oxygen readout machines would indicate a fluctuation instantly after O or while in pois in general vs while out. That would be hard to test without a machine at home 
Counterpoints, thanks for the sober reflection!My sense is that TNS is more altruistic than other sites. I know that fundraising is needed just to keep up with ongoing site requirements. All-volunteer staff as far as I can tell.[/quoteHave you tried low dose nalxolene with pois yet. And has it kept stoping NE
do you guys think it is because of calcium or something else in milk and cheese.
lauracostis: good job. We hope it will help for Pois too CCC : test again and again to confirm it. I think the effect of minerals (calcium and magnesium) is probably too slow to feel such a difference, dispite I feel worst when mg is low.I have posted a link about presence of morphin in milk (500 ng per liter). Some babies seems sensible to it. Some guys feel a calming effect of milk. I tried diet with and without milk and dairy products and I don't feel any difference on my Pois. I have eaten spinach last 2 weeks without real effect (spinach have sepcific opioid peptide too but once again test is negative and no effect for me). I tried fenugreek caps before orgasm (and the day before). My Pois has been vey short with few symptoms but days after I feel very anxious and nervous. Like caffeine. But all this must be tested again. Cortisol back to normal next hours. I feel myself very sensible to light and noise stress. All this wasted cortisol can't help to reduce Pois.
lauracotis do you know the longterm sideeffects of Low dose naxolene
Lauracostis, If LDN helps with POIS do you think maybe the syndrome might be caused reduced beta-endorphin levels, and if so couldn't this be measured in a blood test?
Great news lauracostis and Demo!None of my recent pois experiments have panned out recently.On a good note though, I ate 10-15 greasy bacon slices and a bunch of tomato slices for a snack one day as I was under the influence of NE related fatigue and it surprisingly gave me a real noticeable boost for the rest of the day. I am certainly going to try this again in the future and will report back if I can duplicate the results. Has anyone else considered bacon and tomatoes for pois munchies? Please do not try this if you are concerned about clogged arteries!