[silverandcol]

So have you mastered the dry ejaculation?  Cuz mines not completely dry, its too difficult haha.

[daveman]

So have you mastered the dry ejaculation?  Cuz mines not completely dry, its too difficult haha.

And it doesn't work for all of us either. For me it's 10 times worse! Well maybe 5.

It's like it all stays in and spreads even more POISen throughout my body.

[connor]

when i masturbate, i feel all my chemicals need to be "lifted" because they all feel down. i feel low mood. i often crave alcohol and my prescription adderall. when i abstain i feel like everything is fine and dont need anything to "lift" me out of the terrible haze. in fact, i actually have no desire to alter my mood. i will go from a craving maniac, to actually turned off by the idea of alcohol. does this happen to anybody? also after release i tend to think about crazy things and ruminate about negative things. these thoughts never happen otherwise.... i also get very nostalgic for some reason. it's pretty amazing how different i am when i am in this haze to when i am not..

[connor]

just a question. how does someone with diagnosed add and depression differentiate what is causing what and what is psycho-somatic. i get a terrible mood and terrible thoughts after ejaculation and the urge to do nothing but lay in bed all day after orgasm, i know that is a fact. these could also be depression related. i know i feel twitchy as hell and my body feels like it's on the fritz after activity.one thing to note is that i lost a lot of my libido after stopping ssris. i also lost partial sexual functioning. i dont know what to attribute to what. i'm only 21 and have had blood tests and they all come out normal. i'm currently on wellbutrin my sex drive seemed to go up, but now it's next to nothing. even worse then before. the feelings i get afterwards though make it a good thing though. id like to note my sexual functioning has nothing to do with my mood, it's just not there, just doesen't work for whatever reason. ssri's cause permanent changes in peoples sexuality so i assume that's what happened. i go from periods of feeling brilliant, to stop, to having no sex drive to having an unquenchable sex drive. this is just all so frustrating

[demografx]

I'd like to say I intend to donate to this fund and that it seems to be an incredibly worthy investment of money.

Counterpoints, thank you for the pledge AND the sentiment!!

[demografx]

Hmm, interesting observation here.  So I really did not want to go into pois, but I felt really stimulated from some porn so i tried to masturbate as long as I could without ejaculating.  When I eventually did, very little sperm came out even though I have been abstaining for like a week.  This was because I tried to squeeze my muscles when I climaxed, trying to stop it.  I repeated this same technique two more times throughout the day.  What's interesting, is the next day my pois symptoms were dramatically reduced.  I never learned anything about ejaculating spermless, but it seems like I might have achieved it partially.  I on my day 2 and definitely notice less pois symptoms, maybe about 30% left.  I'm not sure if I can replicate this technique, but it seem spermless ejaculation may be a solution.  I know my pois is not just placebo because I am a gamer and can easily notice changes in my performance.

This masturbation without ejaculation helps significantly clear my brain fog, its something I've tried before and mentioned on the forum a couple years ago. 

Pyro, I feel that this could be an extension of my regeneration theory, i.e., ANY sexual activity stimulates semen regeneration. High speed regeneration hastens POIS relief (just my opinion based on observing my body in and out of POIS for 35 years).

[Willem]

Hmm, interesting observation here.  So I really did not want to go into pois, but I felt really stimulated from some porn so i tried to masturbate as long as I could without ejaculating.  When I eventually did, very little sperm came out even though I have been abstaining for like a week.  This was because I tried to squeeze my muscles when I climaxed, trying to stop it.  I repeated this same technique two more times throughout the day.  What's interesting, is the next day my pois symptoms were dramatically reduced.  I never learned anything about ejaculating spermless, but it seems like I might have achieved it partially.  I on my day 2 and definitely notice less pois symptoms, maybe about 30% left.  I'm not sure if I can replicate this technique, but it seem spermless ejaculation may be a solution.  I know my pois is not just placebo because I am a gamer and can easily notice changes in my performance.

This masturbation without ejaculation helps significantly clear my brain fog, its something I've tried before and mentioned on the forum a couple years ago. 

Hi silverandcol, If I understand you correctly, you're inducing retrograde ejaculation.  I've tried it as well in the past and have the same experience, maybe 30% to 50% reduction in symptoms. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retrograde_ejaculation

[Green]

just a question. how does someone with diagnosed add and depression differentiate what is causing what and what is psycho-somatic. i get a fucked up mood and fucked up thoughts after ejaculation and the urge to do nothing but lay in bed all day after orgasm, i know that is a fact. these could also be depression related. i know i feel twitchy as hell and my body feels like it's on the fritz after activity.one thing to note is that i lost a lot of my libido after stopping ssris. i also lost partial sexual functioning. i dont know what to attribute to what. i'm only 21 and have had blood tests and they all come out normal. i'm currently on wellbutrin my sex drive seemed to go up, but now it's next to nothing. even worse then before. the feelings i get afterwards though make it a good thing though. id like to note my sexual functioning has nothing to do with my mood, it's just not there, just doesen't work for whatever reason. ssri's cause permanent changes in peoples sexuality so i assume that's what happened. i go from periods of feeling brilliant, to stop, to having no sex drive to having an unquenchable sex drive. this is just all so frustrating

I just jumped out of bed right now when I read this. This is the exact thing that I’m going through right now, the dysphoria and the depression right now after orgasm is unbearable, the POIS symptoms have now reduced to 10-20% of what they were before, but really every time I orgasm I have an extremely strong urge to commit suicide, it’s virtually uncontrollable, I have never ever felt such a strong force, it appears on top of POIS I now have a psycho somatic disorder too, great. I too have been on SSRI’s they made POIS even worse in the long run. I really feel for you and absolutely feel the same way, hang in there.

[silverandcol]

just a question. how does someone with diagnosed add and depression differentiate what is causing what and what is psycho-somatic. i get a fucked up mood and fucked up thoughts after ejaculation and the urge to do nothing but lay in bed all day after orgasm, i know that is a fact. these could also be depression related. i know i feel twitchy as hell and my body feels like it's on the fritz after activity.one thing to note is that i lost a lot of my libido after stopping ssris. i also lost partial sexual functioning. i dont know what to attribute to what. i'm only 21 and have had blood tests and they all come out normal. i'm currently on wellbutrin my sex drive seemed to go up, but now it's next to nothing. even worse then before. the feelings i get afterwards though make it a good thing though. id like to note my sexual functioning has nothing to do with my mood, it's just not there, just doesen't work for whatever reason. ssri's cause permanent changes in peoples sexuality so i assume that's what happened. i go from periods of feeling brilliant, to stop, to having no sex drive to having an unquenchable sex drive. this is just all so frustrating

Yea conner, i get that nostalgic too. I thought it was my personality, but it's mostly during pois I feel those strong emotions

[Vandemolen3]

Yea conner, i get that nostalgic too. I thought it was my personality, but it's mostly during pois I feel those strong emotions

Yes I am more nostalgic too during POIS. It's normal when you feel a bit down, you think about good times in the past. I always play music from the eighties.
I think about relationships in the past because now I can have a normal relationship with a woman because of POIS.
But we have to hold on. As we say in Holland: there is light and the end of the tunnel.

[demografx]

I gave 100$ for the POIS fund.

Martin, thank you!!

[B_Daniel]

OK,
My Garlic review:
Raw Garlic cloves - Smelly but work; "Morrisons" Odourless Garlic Pills - dont work; "Hollands and Barretts" Garlic Oil Pills 5000mg - Smelly but they work!!
.................
HOW DO PEOPLE COMPARE GARLIC ODOUR TABS V. ODOURLESS GARLIC TABS?

So a week before Horizon wrote out his post above, I had bought Carlson's cold pressed Odorless Garlic Pills.  I couldn't tell any difference in symptoms when taking them.  After reading Horizon's post I thought I'd give garlic pills another shot.  I bought a brand called Garlinase.  It tastes super garlicy going down, even though it's supposedly enteric coated.  The back of the box says that each tab offers 11mg of alliin, of which 5mg is said to become allicin inside in the body.  This stuff Works!  I took a tab during the day time, had an O that night.  Then took another tab right after the O.  My POIS symptoms were 65% reduced!  I couldn't believe it.  I recommend others try this Garlinase and report back.  fyi: my symptoms are mostly cognitive. 

http://www.amazon.com/Enzymatic-Garlinase-Fresh-30-Tablets/dp/B00020II48/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=hpc&qid=1308369771&sr=1-3

just remember, all garlic pills are not created equal!  http://www.allicinfacts.com/allicin05a.htm
 

[B_Daniel]

The saw palmetto pills I take greatly reduce my sexual urges.  I take 1 a day, Solaray brand - 580mg of saw palmetto berry per pill.  I've found that if I take just one pill, it will help me go easily 1 week and sometimes 2 weeks without mast.  Without the pills, I last 1-4 days before giving in.  Anybody else noticed something similar? 

[JRD]

You've probably seen this, anyway, I'm posting it right now:

http://www.reuniting.info/the_wrong_masturbation_advice [nofollow]

http://www.reuniting.info/cowardly_lion_masturbating_too_much [nofollow]

[scooby]

Hi all.
This is a strange but true side affect of the medication i take for depression which is Seroxat(Paroxetine)
I was put on this SSRI because of my POIS as my GP just thought i was depressed!
However a strange side affect from the medication is that sometimes when i go to the toilet to pass faeces(yes i know it sounds awful!) i actually ejaculate a small amount of semen at the same time. What is going on here? BUT i do not then suffer from POIS. Because i have not been aroused sexually i do not seem to suffer POIS. However it is not a pleasant side affect. Does anyone else have this? Any thoughts?

[patrick_pois]

@JRD: I have seen that website but didn't read those articles yet,
going to read them now. Thanks!

[JRD]

Quite interesting reading:

http://yourbrainonporn.com/rebooting [nofollow]

http://yourbrainonporn.com/rebooting-accounts [nofollow]

http://yourbrainonporn.com/what-are-the-symptoms-of-excessive-porn-use [nofollow]

etc. (try to search the site)

Can you see the similarities in symptoms? This is not about porn, it is more likely about attitude, addiction and rewarding behaviour.

[patrick_pois]

Very interesting indeed. I'm not a heavy user but still addicted  [
I know i will get completely off it (soon) and meet my girlfriend!

[B_Daniel]

Scooby that's gross and funny at the same time!... sorry to laugh

Perhaps the reason no POIS occurs is that the 'ejaculate' that you experience is pre-ejaculate, and that might also explain why there's only a little bit of it.  When you ever pre-ejaculate, does that bring on POIS symptoms in you or not?     

[Animus]

I came across an interesting fact while researching the composiition of semen.
Apparently the Seminal Vesicles produce these Prostaglandins, which are "involved in suppressing an immune response by the female against the foreign semen". I thought that was interesting- in terms of the auto-immune theory, because this could be something to investigate regarding POIS. I wonder if they are looking at these prostaglandins more.  I just thought it was interesting. So there is a component of semen which is meant to suppress the immune system.

On Wikipedia:

Seminal Vesicles create:
   amino acids, citrate, enzymes, flavins, fructose (the main energy source of sperm cells, which rely entirely on sugars from the seminal plasma for energy), phosphorylcholine, prostaglandins (involved in suppressing an immune response by the female against the foreign semen), proteins, vitamin C