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Do you stir the initial sample? Any idea how long a frozen sample is good for?
Mellivora, B_Daniel, Willem, Limejuice, Habibou and all: your concerns are well expressed and legitimate. Daveman and I will bring this up with Stefanie when she returns from a leave of absence in a few weeks. Many thanks for speaking your mind!Demo
Has anyone experimented with treatments after POIS starts? So I had an O last night then today I took 500mg of Niacin. I had the flush and felt some improvement over the symptoms but ended up with some lightheadness. It felt like POIS was still there and was returning after some time. Then I thought about how if this is an allergy, maybe Benadryl would help. I took an aspiring and Benadryl and felt some improvement after a few hours.
Had another O and this time I immediately took Benadryl and aspirin. I feel surprisingly good given two Os so close to each other. I'll have to try the green tea/fenugreek.
Quote from: pois1 on 17/09/2011 23:54:17Had another O and this time I immediately took Benadryl and aspirin. I feel surprisingly good given two Os so close to each other. I'll have to try the green tea/fenugreek.I took a Benadryl last time I had POIS. It made me really tired and I could tell it stayed in my system for about 2 days, I just took one pill.Is there anybody here that has heavy heartbeats at night? Seems that especially right before bed I experience heavy heartbeats. It will beat and than stop for a moment longer than beat again but much heavier, than return to a normal heavy heartbeat.
Hi all, an update on my experiences with niacin. When I first took the niacin (about a month and a half ago), I did so with 300 mg, and had a flush that lasted about one hour. The next day, my POIS was reduced to about 15-20%. So that was promising. But, I thought that a one-hour flush seemed a little bit long. So, in subsequent attempts, I only took 100 mg or 200 mg. This still produced a full flush, but one that didn't last as long. However, with these, I found that my POIS-reduction was not as significant. So that made me think that maybe the niacin wasn't working for me.But then, on Friday night, I decided to try 300 mg again. This time, I had an O about 2 hours after taking the niacin, and then the next day, my POIS was reduced to about 15-20% again. This makes me think that perhaps simply 'experiencing the flush' may not be the sole factor to consider -- one can achieve the flush with lower doses (100 mg/200 mg), but it may be that that the higher (300 mg) dose may be doing other things as well. (E.g., perhaps, using up greater stores of histamine, so that one has a less-strong histamine reaction in response to O.) So, I think this could be an important thing to consider: 'achieving a flush vs. not achieving a flush' is not the only thing going on, and so we should not focus just on that. Rather, a flush could simply be an outward sign of something else that the niacin is doing, and while a lower dose may still achieve the flush, it may not be as effective at doing that 'something else.' And, it could be the case that if that 'something else' is something like using histamine stores (or something similar), it could be that the niacin could still have that same effect, even if one built up a tolerance to the flush-effect. In this case, it might be possible that taking niacin every day could be helpful for POIS, even if that lessened the effect of the flush in particular.What do others think?
Yes, it's perfectly possible. Niacin has been studied as a potential migraine preventive agent, and in those studies is usually taken every day for few months, and usually at higher doses than 100 mg. But be cautious, because Niacin at high doses can be toxic.
The only thing about fenugreek is I can't take it before bed cuz it'll keep me up all night. If I take it around 1pm I'll be able to go to sleep by midnight. So I generally take 2 pills in the morning and 2 around noon.
We shouldn't gloss over risks, but we also should avoid over-stating them.
I've got a question: is it equally effective to take Niacin (or any other vitamin) alone, than to take a B-complex that contains the same quantity of Niacin?