[Starsky]

What antihistamine did you take?

[alphaq]

anyone have psychological symptoms of pois? like OCD, paranoia, etc

[alphaq]

Or any personality changes and mood fluctuations?

[ThereIsAcure]

What antihistamine did you take?

Zyrtec or Xyzal

[ThereIsAcure]

Or any personality changes and mood fluctuations?

Yes. Mood fluctuation and sometimes severe depression .

[Prancer]

Were you officially diagnosed with early type 2 diabetes ThereIsAcure, or did the doctors just assume that is what you had? Either way you said the medication had no effect on your POIS. I wonder if it is not related to POIS if in fact you did have it.

The last time I had my blood sugar checked, they said it was fine (maybe even a little low, which I blame on my POIS).

anyone have psychological symptoms of pois? like OCD, paranoia, etc

Yes, I think I have mild OCD while in POIS.

[ThereIsAcure]

What I was trying to say is :
Yes, I was officially diagnosed and was able to manage the diabetes condition successfully , but my symptoms remain unchanged proving they were unrelated to diabetes.

[FireCat]

After four weeks of taking Niacin 500mg/day, I have to say that it works pretty fine on me, but not a total cure.

Niacin is great in a sense that it does reduce back pain after O.
I don't have to see a chiropractor after O to fix it anymore.

However, Niacin does not reduce fatigue symptoms much in general, and it also seems to increase sexual appetite.

As I wrote on my previous post, control of O is one of the keys to me, and I would see how it goes.

I would try something else to add to Niacin soon, but I thank this forum to give me Niacin.

[GoingCrazy]

I usually just take a claritin 24-hour antihistamine about an hour before sex.  I don't notice POIS if I take claritin.  I am just a bit drowsy but I guess that is normal while on an antihistamine plus post-orgasm.

[GoingCrazy]

anyone have psychological symptoms of pois? like OCD, paranoia, etc

Yes, when I don't do anything to combat my POIS.  I believe it is a symptom of an inflammed brain caused by POIS.

[acronym]

I usually just take a claritin 24-hour antihistamine about an hour before sex.  I don't notice POIS if I take claritin.  I am just a bit drowsy but I guess that is normal while on an antihistamine plus post-orgasm.

Hey GC, have you tried any other antihistamines by chance? I have tried cetrzine and zirtec, for hayfever relief. They were good, but I have to admit I never noticed any significnat benefit with pois. I actually think it might have helped things a bit with brain fog but it certainly no omg effect.

[acronym]

anyone have psychological symptoms of pois? like OCD, paranoia, etc

Yes. In my teens & early 20s. It faded after that. I was being treated for CFS and doing a number of things so whether it changed exclusively due to that or just faded with age I don't know. It was quite stressful and it made it hard to relax & enjoy life. I didn't see a doctor about it specificaly because I felt bad about saying I had some sort of mental problem at that age. I picked up that an O seem to exacerbate things, but did not consider it was exclusively due to orgasm.

[amijgoro]

Hi again, 

Don't know if you guys remember me (hope you do). I posted a short while back a message talking about my constant pois and the horrible symptoms it's accompanied with. During the past few months in which time I have learned about pois and the triggers to it, I've stopped masturbating. Going celibate wasn't enough to stop the symptoms though. I would have pois symptoms constantly. I've realized the constant pois was being caused by physical contact to the penis. Any simple and light touch including the rubbing of my boxers can trigger it. The worst symptoms it causes is awful cognitive disfunction and immediate physical fatigue that can actually put me to sleep. The moment this happens I also have the urgent need to pee which ends up all foamy in the toilet. I went to a urologist who had no idea what i was talking about. Although in the end he did give me a valuable piece Of information which is the reason behind the foamy urine. It could be explained by semen in the mixture of my pee, meaning semen is somehow getting into my bladder which is causing my symptoms (because of pois of corse). This phenomenon is called retrograde ejaculation. It happens when the shutter between the bladder and prostate doesn't shut tight enough. 
Stimulating the penis causes sperm to be released and enter the bladder through the weakened shutter or actually makes the shutter weak and allows a flow of semen into the bladder.

I can't take feeling like this every day anymore! 
Help regarding treatment would be most welcome.

[acronym]

amijgoro, what you are going through is pretty severe. Any physical contact to your penis!! I assume it has to be a stimulating sensation, and not just from even urinating. From what I read here foamy urine is not a typical pois symptom. In your case though the faulty plumbing seems to be causing a greater problem for you, combined with you being young with a hair trigger penis. So your urologist came up the 'shutter between the bladder and prostate doesn't shut tight enough' diagnosis. Can he operate to remedy this situation? That would be my first line of attack, given that there is no definitive cure on this site....though there have been a number of sufferers here recently who have made a lot of progress. You should read the posts from the past month especially, and try some of the supplements/meds.

[GoingCrazy]

I usually just take a claritin 24-hour antihistamine about an hour before sex.  I don't notice POIS if I take claritin.  I am just a bit drowsy but I guess that is normal while on an antihistamine plus post-orgasm.

Hey GC, have you tried any other antihistamines by chance? I have tried cetrzine and zirtec, for hayfever relief. They were good, but I have to admit I never noticed any significnat benefit with pois. I actually think it might have helped things a bit with brain fog but it certainly no omg effect.

I have tried Ceterizine (whatever you call it), but that was taken after my orgasm and it didn't do much.  Other than that I have only tried claritin 24-hour at least an hour before sex.

[amijgoro]

amijgoro, what you are going through is pretty severe. Any physical contact to your penis!! I assume it has to be a stimulating sensation, and not just from even urinating. From what I read here foamy urine is not a typical pois symptom. In your case though the faulty plumbing seems to be causing a greater problem for you, combined with you being young with a hair trigger penis. So your urologist came up the 'shutter between the bladder and prostate doesn't shut tight enough' diagnosis. Can he operate to remedy this situation? That would be my first line of attack, given that there is no definitive cure on this site....though there have been a number of sufferers here recently who have made a lot of progress. You should read the posts from the past month especially, and try some of the supplements/meds.

I took to what my urologist said a little differently. What i understood from the meeting was because the shutter isn't tight enough and semen is leaking into my bladder and the overall fact that i have pois is the combination why i think im having these terrible symptoms. I searched the internet for some sort of medication/supplement that could possibly tighten the shutter and reverse the retrograde ejaculation. I found that sudafed a sinus and cold congestion relief medication has that exact effect. i tried out the sudafed and miraculously it worked! I didn't have that hair trigger penis anymore. the only problem was that the actual medication itself was making me feel very bad and brain fogged, an effect that has been haunting me with medication for a long time now (medication including ritalin and other anti depression/ anxiety drugs). my conclusion from that is 1. The problem is the shutter being week and semen leaking into my bladder that is causing the symptoms. 2. The pois that im experiencing understood by semen escaping the prostate being the cause of the symptoms mean that its the semen that is the problem! And thirdly my boddy has a serious problem regarding bad reactions to a large range of medications that needs an explanation.

[John21 (OP)]

amijgoro, what you are going through is pretty severe. Any physical contact to your penis!! I assume it has to be a stimulating sensation, and not just from even urinating. From what I read here foamy urine is not a typical pois symptom. In your case though the faulty plumbing seems to be causing a greater problem for you, combined with you being young with a hair trigger penis. So your urologist came up the 'shutter between the bladder and prostate doesn't shut tight enough' diagnosis. Can he operate to remedy this situation? That would be my first line of attack, given that there is no definitive cure on this site....though there have been a number of sufferers here recently who have made a lot of progress. You should read the posts from the past month especially, and try some of the supplements/meds.

I took to what my urologist said a little differently. What i understood from the meeting was because the shutter isn't tight enough and semen is leaking into my bladder and the overall fact that i have pois is the combination why i think im having these terrible symptoms. I searched the internet for some sort of medication/supplement that could possibly tighten the shutter and reverse the retrograde ejaculation. I found that sudafed a sinus and cold congestion relief medication has that exact effect. i tried out the sudafed and miraculously it worked! I didn't have that hair trigger penis anymore. the only problem was that the actual medication itself was making me feel very bad and brain fogged, an effect that has been haunting me with medication for a long time now (medication including ritalin and other anti depression/ anxiety drugs). my conclusion from that is 1. The problem is the shutter being week and semen leaking into my bladder that is causing the symptoms. 2. The pois that im experiencing understood by semen escaping the prostate being the cause of the symptoms mean that its the semen that is the problem! And thirdly my boddy has a serious problem regarding bad reactions to a large range of medications that needs an explanation.

Very interesting Amigoro!  Maybe you could start with a very small dose and slowly increase to the recommended doseage?

Info on Sudafed for retrograde ejaculation: http://retrogradeejaculation.info/

Has anyone tried Sudafed against POIS? Is it possible that the "allergy" is initiated by partial retrograde ejaculation?

[dante88]

I have noticed that I have very "foamy" urine after ejaculation as well. It is a different type of foam than I usually have when urinating...if I leave it in the toilet without flushing it will stay foamy and won't go away...I believe that retrograde ejaculation is the culprit. This would explain what is causing the allergic reaction.

I went to see my allergist yesterday and had a skin ***** test performed. I had a positive reaction to my own semen and the doctor has decided to put me on a strong antihistamine (Zaditen SRO). The doctor is still waiting on the results of my blood test to determine whether or not to perform hypo sensitization therapy.

I have noticed that my symptoms seem to be magnified if I masturbate to pornography as opposed to having sex with my girlfriend or masturbating w/o pornography. I believe that this is due to the increased dopamine consumption correlated with pornography.

To summarize my theory...the allergic reaction interferes with the functioning of the pituitary/hypothalamus..decreasing the amount of dopamine the body is able to produce and release. Pornography uses up the dopamine and POIS makes the body unable to replenish dopamine levels.

I have had other allergic reactions in the past...namely a reaction to the iodine found in some shellfish. The reaction that I had was very similar to what I experience with POIS...reaffirming that for me, POIS is an allergic reaction.

Taking  an antihistamine like zyrtec seems to abate the symptoms somewhat. Also I have been taking Niacinimide recently at roughly 2500 mg. It does seem to help with the symptoms as well...but it doesnt not cure them.

[Prancer]

To summarize my theory...the allergic reaction interferes with the functioning of the pituitary/hypothalamus..decreasing the amount of dopamine the body is able to produce and release.

That makes a lot of sense to me Chris. I really like that theory. My symptoms are also very similar to a dopamine deficiency. I always tried to connect having an allergy with dopamine deficiency, and that helps a lot.

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Also, it's been several days now since I started taking the vitamins. They definitely seem to have a positive effect on me. What's really nice about them is I feel more rested in the morning and remember my dreams more often, and that helps a lot with my POIS symptoms. I also feel a bit more energized during the day. Of course, I need to keep taking them for a longer time, like kurtosis said, to really see how they're working. It's definitely not a POIS cure, but at least they seem to be showing some nice effects. Either way though, I think I would still take many of these vitamins even without POIS, as they are beneficial to one's overall health.

Prancer

[John21 (OP)]

By the way I have noticed foamy urine in the past as well. I remember urinalysis finding protein in the urine, and some minor hematuria (microscopic blood in the urine).