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uranoi dont know. herman said to do the tests, so i did the tests. i dont know what they mean. as far as i can tell, they are inconclusive. both tests were done at around the same time. the copper-zinc panel has everything below the ideal levels, with non-ceruplasmin copper below the low levels. i dont have anybody to interpret these results so i dont know what they mean, i thought maybe someone here would know. i asked the nutritional balancing people, but they didnt know either and didnt give me a proper answer.
one question,any woman have this problem after :O' or this pois is male specific?
Quote from: gondal4 on 14/08/2013 07:14:28one question,any woman have this problem after :O' or this pois is male specific?I think this is not male only problem. I saw some examples over internet where women had the same symptoms we describe. However I didn't happen to see woman that actively participates regarding POIS on any of our forums.Victor
Girlwind was a quite active participant. I think she made big progress by correcting her thyroid function. I read a post a few pages back that said she was banned which surprised me and was a shame.
Quote from: acronym on 14/08/2013 10:30:46Girlwind was a quite active participant. I think she made big progress by correcting her thyroid function. I read a post a few pages back that said she was banned which surprised me and was a shame. As far as I understand it she wasn't banned, I just heard she didn't love the moderating and quit. Oh and by the way you can't find any info of that if you search back for it as it mysteriously disappeared. There were prob other reasons too but shame that she's gone.
From the tests that I recieved recently, almost every single person has low ceruloplasmin in their blood. Ceruloplasmin is copper based protein that binds copper and carries it all over including into the bile to detox. Bear with me, you have copper in your serum and 95% of that copper should be bound to ceruloplasmin. To test it people have serum copper test and ceruloplasmin tests, from which you get free copper content. Free copper equals free estrogens which affect your inflammatory systems. Ceruloplasmin is used to break down histamine. When free copper part gets larger because of stress, or constant masturbation , ceruplasmin falls. If you wish I can provide you with many studies to support this claim.So the logic is this..... Stress lowers ceruloplasmin levels, which leads to larger part of the free copper in blood, which can be calculated by the formula you can find online for free copper.( From serum copper and ceruloplasmin)Free copper irritates adrenals, since it increases cortiosl secretion obviously this way there is a steal taking place and your aldosterone falls and cortisol goes up. In this setup your ceruloplasmin will go down , and histamine will go up..This is your mechanism for POIS. To chelate free copper and to lower cortisol and increase thyroid function, since free copper equals free estrogen which supresses thyroid, you need manganese zinc B6 and vitamin C. But there are many different cases, and in some cases for instance thyroid is suppresed by mercury , and cortisol is up to support low thyroid since cortisol pushes potassium up in the cell which increases thyroid function...In that case copper chelation will help, but you will also need to chelate mercury and use a lot of selenium and possibly, cilantro and chlorella/This is 100% cause of POIS, since when ceruloplasmin is low, that means copper is not bound and that good estrogen does not stimulate aldosterone productionaldosterone and good estrogen causes retention of manganese....Manganese is needed for acetylcholine synthesis and the lack of which causes your muscle weakness and other low acetylcholine symptoms.So you have low zinc , which impaired your digestion , you have low copper bound which increases your histamines and you have low ceruloplasmin which decreases your iron in blood and you have low manganese which causes low acetylcholine.
Guys, this is scientific forum. There was the most breaking statement that supposedly explains the mechanism of POIS. Why are we not discussing it? Lets either find proofs or reject the claims provided. This is the most logical thing to do, why aren't we doing it?Thoughts?VictorOnce again, to refresh your memory - the explanation of POIS mechanism: