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I've voted for both ends of the scale. A United States of Europe, with a democratically elected, or preferably soviet-mandated parliament (served by, not serving, the civil service), with a single overarching criminal code, one official language, one central bank, one federal police force, one military command, one hereditary head of state (think President Trump, or President Blair, before you dismiss the idea of Kate'n'Andy as constitutional monarchs)....it could be a civilised version of the USA - a free-enterprise welfare state with military clout but no civilian guns. But the present organisation does not make economic or political sense for Britain. The UK has always traded at a loss with the rest of Europe: lowering trade barriers has simply increased the deficit. UK law is based on an entirely different concept (criminalisation and prosecution of wrongs) from that of Europe (enforcement of rights) because under UK law, the state exists to serve the citizen, which is political anathema to our neighbours and does not require a constitution, human rights, and all the other crap that makes work for lawyers and frees criminals to travel and ply their trade across Europe.
In a civilised society where the state exists to serve the citizen,
the state has no more power or authority than the citizens give it.
Thus you do not need a "right to life" because the state is subject to the same criminal law on killing as any citizen.
Nor do you need a "right to family" because it would be an offence for anyone to interfere with your personal life.
I had the pleasure of being an adult before Thatcher became an unlected president, and indeed before the UK was sold into servitude by Heath. In those far-off heady days, members of parliament were elected to represent their constituents, not their parties, and the prime minister was a spokesman, never referred to as a leader or considered equal to a head of state. Alas, politicians have rather got above themselves, and somehow the electorate seems to have lost the will to mandate, criticise and protest. The increasing use of the police force as an arm of political government may have something to do with it,
and Blair's contempt for truth, parliament and the public probably sealed the fate of the next generation.
Leaving EU isnt going to change that tho.
Quote from: Jolly on 09/05/2016 19:49:28Leaving EU isnt going to change that tho. It will remove one layer of "government by business", which is why Cameron is so scared of Brexit.