The graviton is more dogmatic; that's the point of "current dogma."

At present, the graviton is considered a hypothesis; I don't think anyone would be dogmatic about its existence until we get some more solid experimental evidence for their existence (or, considering their incredibly small energy, more likely

*theoretical evidence*).

the one at the root of the graviton would have to be the de Broglie wavelength of the massive bodies in some orbit or other ... maybe, i guess; like two black holes spinning into each other... sure.

The de Broglie wavelength of a black hole of (say) 30 Solar masses would be miniscule.

However, we can work out the wavelength of the gravitons recently discovered. Early in the event, the gravitational waves had a frequency around 50Hz, which I understand is due to the black holes rotating around each other 25 times per second.

From the observed fact that the gravitational waves travel at pretty much the speed of light, we can calculate their wavelength:

c≈v=fλ

Where:

- f is the frequency, say 50Hz (observed range: 40Hz - 400Hz)
- v is the velocity of the gravitational waves, which is roughly c (the speed of light)
- λ is the wavelength

So we get λ= 6000km (range: 750-7500km)

Quantum effects of electromagnetism (light & electrons) prevent electrons collapsing into the nucleus (the "ultraviolet catastrophe"). This is because of the Plank constant in E=ħf.

The quantum effects of gravity do

*not* prevent solar-mass black holes from collapsing into each other.

*If* gravity is quantized, I am sure that the equivalent constant for gravity is a lot smaller than ħ (by perhaps 40 orders of magnitude?).[/list]