[Tim the Plumber]

Even include me in that. Is that a record?

Collective brainwashing is no excuse for avoiding to face the evidences that our climate is being engineered
systematically in the troposphere: http://www.nuclearplanet.com/variable_heat.pdf

Well, I ain't reading all of that.

Can you quote which bits actually say that geo-engineering is happening?

[tkadm30]

Can you quote which bits actually say that geo-engineering is happening?

Yes.

In addition to the geological and geophysical processes discussed, the scientific community, including IPCC
scientists, has turned a blind eye to ongoing tropospheric geoengineering that in recent years has
been occurring on a near-daily, near-global basis. Tropospheric aerosolized particulates, evidenced
as coal fly ash, inhibit rainfall, heat the atmosphere, and cause global warming. Evidence obtained
from an accidental air-drop release indicates efforts to melt glacial ice and enhance global warming.
By ignoring ongoing tropospheric geoengineering, IPCC assessments are compromised, as is the
moral authority of the United Nations.

[Tim the Plumber]

And is there any evidence that anybody is doing this as a deliberate act?

[jeffreyH (OP)]

That doesn't look like a crackpot site at all, does it?   
http://www.nuclearplanet.com/
Can you show some reliable evidence? Look I've written it in big it is so important.

[tkadm30]

That doesn't look like a crackpot site at all, does it?   

Nope. This website is the homepage of Dr J. Marvin Herndon, a respected scientist who dare to oppose the scientific dictatorship of climate change and systematic obfuscation of climatic sciences.

[jeffreyH (OP)]

I don't care what his qualifications are. He has gone off piste and become a conspiracy theory nut. Also some of his ideas have been falsified and one of his papers retracted. Earth was a gas giant??
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Marvin_Herndon

[tkadm30]

I don't care what his qualifications are. He has gone off piste and become a conspiracy theory nut. Also some of his ideas have been falsified and one of his papers retracted. Earth was a gas giant??
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Marvin_Herndon

The "georeactor" hypothesis proposed by J. Marvin Herndon is controversial. I don't claim to have knowledge on this topic so I won't comment further. However the scientific dictatorship on climate change is evidence of scientific obfuscation on the effects of solar geoengineering on radiative forcing (global warming).
 

[jeffreyH (OP)]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dictatorship
Can you name the individual scientist who is the dictator overseeing this obfuscation. This would help greatly in furthering your claims.

[Bored chemist]

You seem to have missed this bit of JH's earlier post, can you find some evidence please?

Can you show some reliable evidence? Look I've written it in big it is so important.

[tkadm30]

Can you name the individual scientist who is the dictator overseeing this obfuscation. This would help greatly in furthering your claims.

The IPCC is a huge organization implicated in advocating climate change and is better known as the "climate cartel".

I hope this helps.

[tkadm30]

You seem to have missed this bit of JH's earlier post, can you find some evidence please?

Can you show some reliable evidence? Look I've written it in big it is so important.

I'm blinded by the establisment of ill-defined, unreliable magic thinking which defy human intelligence about the existence and verifiability of solar geoengineering. Either accept solar geoengineering as a measurable phenomenon and source of CCNs or verify your sources.

[Bored chemist]

You seem to have missed this bit of JH's earlier post, can you find some evidence please?

Can you show some reliable evidence? Look I've written it in big it is so important.

I'm blinded by the establisment of ill-defined, unreliable magic thinking which defy human intelligence about the existence and verifiability of solar geoengineering. Either accept solar geoengineering as a measurable phenomenon and source of CCNs or verify your sources.

Why ask us to just accept something?
Why not prove it by showing actual evidence?

[tkadm30]

Why ask us to just accept something?

Because the existence of solar geoengineering is not controversial anymore, it is an accepted fact.
What remains obscure and poorly understood is the effects of aerosol radiative forcing on cloud physics and
the climate.

I hope this helps.

[Bored chemist]

Why ask us to just accept something?

Because the existence of solar geoengineering is not controversial anymore, it is an accepted fact.
What remains obscure and poorly understood is the effects of aerosol radiative forcing on cloud physics and
the climate.

I hope this helps.

It won't help until you actually show some evidence.
If it was an established fact that would be easy; but you can't seem to do it.
That's because it's not accepted fact.

So, once again, please supply evidence of geoengineering on anything bigger than an experimental scale.

[jeffreyH (OP)]

So now what you are implying is that the IPCC is engineering climate change. Basically spraying soot into clouds so that they can become our overlords. What's their plan after that?

[tkadm30]

So now what you are implying is that the IPCC is engineering climate change. Basically spraying soot into clouds so that they can become our overlords. What's their plan after that?

Who knows what Trump will decide on solar geoengineering initiatives. I suspect Trump will increase budget and fundings for solar geoengineering programs.

[Bored chemist]

I suspect Trump will increase budget and fundings for solar geoengineering programs.

Not a bad bet.
The previews budget for it was zero because they were not doing any.
(unless, of course, you have evidence to show that they were- in which case, why not post it?)

[jeffreyH (OP)]

I know that examining scientific evidence and papers is not sexy. You have to be able to think logically. Fantasizing about global conspiracy is much more exciting. This is not the forum for such fantasy. That is why it is called a science forum rather than a fantasy forum. I am now only going to discuss the science. You can continue talking to yourself.