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Is the emergence of terrorism activity a zombie-like invasion?
« on: 08/06/2017 10:45:34 »
What is the history of semi-automated terrorism activity in ancient times?

I don't think that terrorism activity is made by religious thugs simply because the organisation of terrorism
require a emerging order. However, comparing the emergence of terrorism activity to a zombie-like invasion is interesting.

Just saying.... :) 
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Re: Is the emergence of terrorism activity a zombie-like invasion?
« Reply #1 on: 08/06/2017 12:15:56 »
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/half-of-all-top-ira-men-worked-for-security-services-28694353.html

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/21/government-agents-directly-involved-us-terror-plots-report

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/01/obama-continue-signature-strikes-drones-civilian-deaths

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/01/obama-drones-strikes-civilian-deaths

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The web of collusion and spies

MR Hurst has frequently claimed some members of the RUC, UDR and Army colluded with terror groups. The statement portrays a wilderness of mirrors in which every organisation has the other penetrated to some degree and “all sources have a shelf life”. It talks of British agents in the Garda, Garda agents in Northern Ireland, IRA agents in the RUC and Garda and RUC agents in the IRA. It states “the fact that a Garda was passing information to the IRA did not bother me any more or any less than in the same way members of the RUC/UDR/BA (British Army) passed information to the IRA and members of various loyalist paramilitaries. It was a matter for HQNI and the RUC and way above my pay grade ... in other words it was a strategic and not a tactical problem”. It concludes that none of this “registered massively on the Richter scale, it was just a fact of life, indeed it was well within the rules of our game!”

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If such a person is “seen to be giving out orders,” the official continued, or is armed, or “has undertaken actions that connote integration into the terrorist group, al-Qaida and/or one of its designated affiliates,” the US reserves the right to kill them. The official did not list knowing the person’s name as a threshold for marking them for execution.

“This is a process of analysis. It is based on all the information, including sensitive intelligence, available to us,” the official said.

Drone strikes, synonymous with Obama in many parts of the world, are a legacy issue for the administration. An executive order issued on Friday required increased training, technological innovation and other “feasible precautions” to reduce civilian casualties from future drone strikes, as well as mandating the annual public release of an updated death toll from counterterrorism operations. The order wrapped drone strikes, which can target individuals who have not attacked the US, in the mantle of “the Nation’s inherent right of self-defense”.

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Between 2009 and 31 December 2015, the administration claimed that it launched 473 strikes, mostly with drones, that killed between what it said were 2,372 and 2,581 terrorist “combatants”.

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In 2013, senior Republican senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina said that drone strikes had killed 4,700 people, some 2,000 more deaths than the upper limit the administration released on Friday.

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The US has killed people whose identities it does not know, for fitting into what it considers patterns of life associated with terrorism, an anonymous method of killing known as signature strikes. But despite the executive order’s emphasis on steps to “ensure military objectives and civilians are clearly distinguished”, senior administration officials indicated that Obama will permit signature strikes to continue.

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Out of the 494 cases related to terrorism the US has tried since 9/11, the plurality of convictions – 18% overall – are not for thwarted plots but for "material support" charges, a broad category expanded further by the 2001 Patriot Act that permits prosecutors to pursue charges with tenuous connections to a terrorist act or group.

In one such incident, the initial basis for a material-support case alleging a man provided "military gear" to al-Qaida turned out to be waterproof socks in his luggage.

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Nearly all of the highest-profile domestic terrorism plots in the United States since 9/11 featured the "direct involvement" of government agents or informants, a new report says.

Some of the controversial "sting" operations "were proposed or led by informants", bordering on entrapment by law enforcement. Yet the courtroom obstacles to proving entrapment are significant, one of the reasons the stings persist.

The lengthy report, released on Monday by Human Rights Watch, raises questions about the US criminal justice system's ability to respect civil rights and due process in post-9/11 terrorism cases. It portrays a system that features not just the sting operations but secret evidence, anonymous juries, extensive pretrial detentions and convictions significantly removed from actual plots.

"In some cases the FBI may have created terrorists out of law-abiding individuals by suggesting the idea of taking terrorist action or encouraging the target to act," the report alleges.
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Re: Is the emergence of terrorism activity a zombie-like invasion?
« Reply #2 on: 08/06/2017 12:54:53 »
http://uk.businessinsider.com/death-risk-statistics-terrorism-disease-accidents-2017-1?r=UK&IR=T

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According to a September 2016 study by Alex Nowrasteh at the Cato Institute, a libertarian think tank, some 3,024 Americans died from 1975 through 2015 due to foreign-born terrorism. That number includes the 9/11 terrorist attacks (2,983 people) and averages nearly 74 Americans per year.

Since 9/11, however, foreign-born terrorists have killed roughly one American per year. Six Americans have died per year at the hands, guns, and bombs of Islamic terrorists (foreign and domestic).
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Re: Is the emergence of terrorism activity a zombie-like invasion?
« Reply #3 on: 08/06/2017 13:21:59 »
Far more Americans have been killed on US soil by 5-year-old Americans than by foreigners since 9/11. Bomb them. Parents and siblings may be discounted as collateral damage.

Seriously, though, this does raise the question of whether nuclear "deterrence" does or ever has deterred anyone from doing anything. If ISIS destroyed Birmingham, or Russia invaded Crimea, what would be an appropriate response? How did the world's greatest nuclear power deter 9/11 - the only significant attack on the USA since the British invasion of 1812?

If the UK was attacked by a significant nuclear power (never mind why), what would be the point of coming second in a nuclear war? So at what point do you launch a pre-emptive nuclear strike (a) on a non-nuclear enemy or (b) on a nuclear enemy who would be content with a silver medal?
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Re: Is the emergence of terrorism activity a zombie-like invasion?
« Reply #4 on: 08/06/2017 13:28:50 »
It occurs to me that the hidden agenda may be financially motivated...

http://uk.businessinsider.com/death-risk-statistics-terrorism-disease-accidents-2017-1?r=UK&IR=T
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"I once asked a guy at [the National Institutes of Health] how much we should spend on preventing a disease that kills 6 per year, and he looked at me like I was crazy," John Mueller, a foreign policy expert at the Ohio State University and co-author of the book "Chasing Ghosts: The Policing of Terrorism", told Business Insider in an email.
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Re: Is the emergence of terrorism activity a zombie-like invasion?
« Reply #5 on: 08/06/2017 22:01:16 »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Iraq_during_the_Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_war

https://www.amnesty.org.uk/how-isis-islamic-state-isil-got-its-weapons-iraq-syria

http://www.globalresearch.ca/logistics-101-where-does-isis-get-its-guns/5454726

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/may/16/tony-blair-iraq-war-prosecution-attempt-goes-back-to-court

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/20/britain-cashing-in-middle-east-weapons-sales-saudi-arabia-yemen

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U.S. government support for Iraq was not a secret and was frequently discussed in open session of the US Senate and House of Representatives. On June 9, 1992, Ted Koppel reported on ABC's Nightline that the "Reagan/Bush administrations permitted—and frequently encouraged—the flow of money, agricultural credits, dual-use technology, chemicals, and weapons to Iraq."

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More recent efforts to rebuild and equip the Iraqi army have once again resulted in a massive arms flow into Iraq.

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The report titled, “‘IS’ supply channels through Turkey,” confirms what has been reported by geopolitical analysts since at least as early as 2011 – that ISIS subsides on immense, multi-national state sponsorship, including, obviously, Turkey itself.

Looking at maps of ISIS-held territory and reading action reports of its offensive maneuvers throughout the region and even beyond, one might imagine hundreds of trucks a day would be required to maintain this level of fighting capacity. One could imagine similar convoys crossing into Iraq from Jordan and Saudi Arabia. Similar convoys are likely passing into Syria from Jordan.

In all, considering the realities of logistics and their timeless importance to military campaigns throughout human history, there is no other plausible explanation to ISIS’s ability to wage war within Syria and Iraq besides immense resources being channeled to it from abroad.

Wasn't it Saddam who was responsible for selling oil out the back door and keeping the prices low?  Wasn't it the Saudi's who were involved in the bribery scandal, where Tony Blair ordered that Scotland Yard desist their investigation.  Wasn't it the Saudi's who benefited financially when the oil prices rose again after the removal of Saddam?

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The private prosecution seeks the trial in a British court of Blair, the foreign secretary in 2003, Jack Straw, and Lord Goldsmith, the attorney general at the time the government was deciding to join the invasion of Iraq.

It seeks their conviction for the crime of aggression and is based on the damning findings of last year’s Chilcot report into the British decision to join the invasion of Iraq, under the false pretext that Saddam Hussein’s regime had weapons of mass destruction.

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Newly published official figures reveal that the UK won defence orders worth £7.7bn last year. It now has about 12% of the global defence export market and, over the last decade, has shored up its position as the second largest arms exporter in the world.

There is still much to play for. The government’s own figures suggest that the global defence export market in 2015 was worth a fraction under $100bn, a 17% increase on 2014.

As the market has expanded, successive governments have gone to extraordinary lengths to promote the sector. Tony Blair intervened to prevent an investigation into arms exports to Riyadh; Cameron assiduously courted Saudi royalty; earlier this year the defence secretary, Michael Fallon, led a UK delegation to Qatar to promote sales of the Eurofighter jet.

The Middle East is considered by the government to be a priority market. Two-thirds of all arms exports go to the region. In the last two years the UK has agreed arms deals worth £388m with the United Arab Emirates, £170m with Qatar, £120m with Oman and £24m with Bahrain.

Other countries with questionable human rights records have also become major customers. In the last three years the UK has sold £450m of arms to Turkey, despite its increasing authoritarianism and political instability, and £116m of weaponry to Egypt, despite its recent coup and worsening human rights situation.

If the UK is the second largest arms exporter in the world, then the USA must be the largest arms exporter in the world (correct me if I'm wrong)...
...And if the UK is supplying all the countries mentioned as being the potential source of ISIS weaponry, where the USA is directly or indirectly supplying weapons to the Iraq Army...
Then it doesn't exactly require rocket science to work out the implications.  For the people who produce weaponry for a living the situation could not be more perfect for shareholder profits forecasting.

Iraqi people on the ground in Iraq living with this nightmare say that Saddam was a bastard, but they say that the people who came next made Saddam look like a proper sweetheart...
Iraq used to have the best education system in the Middle East.
Half a million Iraqi children died in the embargo on Iraq due to lack of proper medical supplies.
The average age in Iraq is now 35. (or very close)

I saw a Vice documentary recently about a 16 year old Iraqi boy who's been driving a city bus for a living for last 2 year, despite the fact that he has no driving license, to support himself and his mother.  That's when he's not been fighting ISIS with the Iraq Army, where he has lost 25 of his childhood friends to the war.  He had pictures of beheaded ISIS soldiers on his phone and expressed that he couldn't wait to get back to the fighting.
No-one on the ground in Iraq sees an end to the conflict even if ISIS is defeated.  Alliances formed in the face of ISIS are balanced on shaky ground at best, where most of the population has grown up with killing and knows no other life.     
 
If the word 'Zombie' can be attached to any part of the question of the OP, it is to describe the lack of action to address the reality of the Middle East conflict on the part of the 'general public' in the UK and the USA who are partially responsible via their taxes for funding this evil state of affairs.
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Re: Is the emergence of terrorism activity a zombie-like invasion?
« Reply #6 on: 08/06/2017 22:54:23 »
And just to make it clear, in case anyone gets hold of the wrong end of the stick...

I am a pacifist who is against all types of violence and oppression.
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Re: Is the emergence of terrorism activity a zombie-like invasion?
« Reply #7 on: 09/06/2017 10:00:46 »
Quote from: timey on 08/06/2017 22:01:16
If the word 'Zombie' can be attached to any part of the question of the OP, it is to describe the lack of action to address the reality of the Middle East conflict on the part of the 'general public' in the UK and the USA who are partially responsible via their taxes for funding this evil state of affairs.

Thanks for sharing timey.

Actually, i was thinking about how movies may influence the public perception of terrorist attacks. Security firms and anti-terrorism organizations actually profit and generate incomes from this undisclosed "zombie" invasion. The narratives of terrorism is controlled by mainstream media, a sockpuppet for our Western goverments using fake crisis actors and artificial intelligence to simulate another 9/11 event.

If the narratives of terrorism are real, then the narrative elements of the structure of the story must be scripted into a series of logical episodes. There's no random terrorism attack without a well-defined modus operandi. A zombie invasion fits perfectly into this scenario. 
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Re: Is the emergence of terrorism activity a zombie-like invasion?
« Reply #8 on: 09/06/2017 10:18:34 »
Quote from: timey on 08/06/2017 22:54:23
And just to make it clear, in case anyone gets hold of the wrong end of the stick...

I am a pacifist who is against all types of violence and oppression.

Your replies are welcome and very informative.
Remember that being an independent investigator is a honorable distinction for anyone of us seeking to share
wisdom...
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