Tell me about Congestive heart failure/complications from stress and insomnia ?

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If one is born with several congenital heart problems later develops Congestive heart failure, which is being compounded by stress, insomnia etc.. What is long time prognosis of such things. These things have been worsened by excessive weight. Have had a substantial weight loss over a years time to help combat these problems, but still need to loose about 90 more pounds.Blood pressure has stablized, no dibetis. Good cholesterol and everything else.. I would like more imformation about the congestive heart failure . I am still having tons of water retention and had an infection in my heart in August which made me very sick. I have hurdled that and my doctor has a lousy bedside manner and speaks in latin so I want to know more about progression of this problem and perhaps optional treatments for said problem.. if there are any! Thanks!!
« Last Edit: 29/03/2007 17:29:42 by Karen W. »

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It sounds to me like you need someone other than this MD to speak to. Many clinics & hospitals now are recongnizing a need for this sort of thing. Does your local medical facility have someone called a patient educator? or patient advocate?

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Patient advocate..Yes They offer pretty bleak words .. I was just hoping that maybe there were alternitive solutions etc. etc. 

Thanks though!

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If one is born with several congenital heart problems later develops Congestive heart failure, which is being compounded by stress, insomnia etc.. What is long time prognosis of such things. These things have been worsened by excessive weight. Have had a substantial weight loss over a years time to help combat these problems, but still need to loose about 90 more pounds.Blood pressure has stablized, no dibetis. Good cholesterol and everything else.. I would like more imformation about the congestive heart failure . I am still having tons of water retention and had an infection in my heart in August which made me very sick. I have hurdled that and my doctor has a lousy bedside manner and speaks in latin so I want to know more about progression of this problem and perhaps optional treatments for said problem.. if there are any! Thanks!!

Karen,

if this is not a joke, it's a too much serious problem.
You should go to a good doctor and get properly cured.
It shouldn't be solved by recommendation/suggestions from a forum...even if this one is just fantastic!  Forums have limitations -you know- and uncontrolled Google diagnoses seem to be the first cause of death on this Planet...
Do you remember when you were frantically trying to convince some guy to go and get checked 'cause he had been bitten by a silly dog and thought to get rabies? [;D]
Take care

ikod
« Last Edit: 31/03/2007 15:18:06 by iko »

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No worries Iko I have been under care all my life. Still am under doctors care. I just want to know if there are optional treatments my doctors do not know about. I live in the sticks and sometimes treatments vary if you go to the big city. My first surgeries were done in San Francisco many years ago. Successive surgeries done here locally by special surgeons flown in to do them. Certainly no Joke.
  I just want to know about all the alternitives. That is if there are any. Medications and surgeries seem to have been helpful. I feel good most of the time. I am not looking for diagnosis I have already been diagnosed. I just want to know what more to expect if these treatments have not worked. You know what I mean? Are There alternatives to surgeries and medications. I have worked hard on the weight loss and have done well. I have some more to loose, but worry that when I get it off, is that really going to make a difference. See my Doctor is very vague about that.

Without delving to deeply into my own treatments and health care, I was hoping that I could find out what the most current treatments are and compare them to what I have had and see if they are up to date and on par with the newest technology. I am the first to say I don't understand all of the defects that I was born with and have had corrective surgeries over the years to fix them. I would not have been here without them. So The new methods of treatment would be nice to hear about.

Thanks IKO, and yes I do remember trying to get him to be checked LOL.. Thanks for the reminder! I have been checked zillions of times and really don't know what if anything else can be done as my doctors seem to think that it's all been done. They should know best. You know when you don't like the results of something, you tend to try to look around to see if anyone else has had better success with alternative treatments. I have read Lots about my problem, but I guess I just don't have the greatest understanding of it.

Thanks so much..all is good IKO.. Just feel like I need to investigate alternitives more, you know. I have no intention of stoping my treatment. Most of which is finished. I just want to be more educated about my problems.

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... I am still having tons of water retention and had an infection in my heart in August which made me very sick. I have hurdled that and my doctor has a lousy bedside manner and speaks in latin so I want to know more about progression of this problem and perhaps optional treatments for said problem.. if there are any! Thanks!!

This is what worries me: I have a fixed 'infectious' idea in my mind as all of you probably know.
'Fastidious' germs that manage to give a blood infection stick to cardiac valves and to the inner surface of the heart (endocardium).  Some don't give any fever or major symptoms but damage the heart bite by bite.  Did you get all your blood checks (cultures for bugs) and antibiotics, or you stopped because you felt just fine?   [;D]

Actually it's not my business...and I'm not your expert either!
Take care

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« Last Edit: 31/03/2007 18:12:06 by iko »

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I did get all of that. And two huge rounds of antibiotics as the first round did not get it. and I started to get sick again. So I had a second go with the antibiotics. The doctor said it is clear now. So I believe  he got it. I finished all of my meds for that.

I do keep having the swelling so he put me on some sort of diaretic for it, but if I miss one or two of them I find myself in a bit of a mess as far as everything swelling up. So I have to keep on a regular cycle with those medicines.. my blood pressure has been 114 over 80 so he said that was good.

Iko I wouldn't have posted if it bothered me. I will keep some things private, but this is just ok stuff. I know, but thanks for the comments.

I had had a surgery in March or so last year, and then seemed like I became more and more tired. One morning months later in august I woke up all swollen all over and could barely walk. My toes had become lost under the swollen feet! LOL I knew then something was wrong. I had no fever or anything, just felt weak worn out and more tird then I have ever been. I drove myself to the hospital and that's when I found out about the infection. He said I was fortunante that it could have been a lot worse!

So if he has done all the treatments correctly, I should be ok. The doctors are runing regular blood tests to moitor everything! So far so good as far as the infection goes.
« Last Edit: 31/03/2007 18:36:28 by Karen W. »

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WELL SCIENCE AND MEDICAL FRIENDS.. I WOKE UP TODAY  WITH A STRANGE

PHENOMENON  FROM THE CENTER TO TIP OVER TO THE LEFT SIDE OF MY TONGUE

SEEMS TO BE NUMB AND FUZZY FEELING. IT IS SORE ABOUT MIDWAY DOWN TOWARDS 

TIP.I HAVE NOT BITTEN IT. I HAVE BEEN EXPOSED TO THREE CASES OF STREP 

THROAT THIS LAST TWO WEEKS HAVE FELT TIRED AND PHELGMY WITH COUGH ..                                           

JUST KIND A ICKY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT STREP THROAT FEELS LIKE OR IF IT

INVOLVES ONES TONGUE.... ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEAS.. lOL.. THANKS!
« Last Edit: 26/05/2007 18:30:17 by BenV »

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I hope you are going to be okay? 
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I would think so but it seems weird I have never had half of me tongue go numb before! it is as if the surface is fuzzy and numb but inside the tongue is sore,.. Very weird!

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WELL SCIENCE AND MEDICAL FRIENDS.. I WOKE UP TODAY  WITH A STRANGE

PHENOMENON  FROM THE CENTER TO TIP OVER TO THE LEFT SIDE OF MY TONGUE

SEEMS TO BE NUMB
AND FUZZY FEELING.

Hi KarenW my frienda,

are you feeling better already?
For an almost-lethal e-diagnosis
please answer the following questions:

- Did you have your blood pressure checked recently?
- Eye pupils: same size and shape both sides?
- Are you taking any medications or 'natural' poisons?

Cheers,

ikod   [;)]
« Last Edit: 26/05/2007 15:06:53 by iko »

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you may have just eaten/ drank something your tounge didnt agree with
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WELL SCIENCE AND MEDICAL FRIENDS.. I WOKE UP TODAY  WITH A STRANGE

PHENOMENON  FROM THE CENTER TO TIP OVER TO THE LEFT SIDE OF MY TONGUE

SEEMS TO BE NUMB
AND FUZZY FEELING.

Hi KarenW my frienda, HI Iko My Friend

are you feeling better already?Well I just woke up again, and it is oh about 8:50 am.. my tongue is still numb and fuzzy and sore..


For an almost-lethal e-diagnosis LOL.. Thanks IKO
please answer the following questions: OKIe dokie!

- Did you have your blood pressure checked recently? Yepperoo..110 over 80
- Eye pupils: same size and shape both sides? YES same size and shape

- Are you taking any medications or 'natural' poisons? Medications, Yes.

Cheers, Thanks IKO.. Do me need to go back to the doc..?

ikod   [;)Karen

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Hi Karen,

Yes, it's better to see your doc
and rule out any trouble that makes
you feel dizzy and have 'paresthesias'
on one side of your tongue.
Some nerves may not work 100% and this
can be only temporarily, better check
it out anyway.
I know doctors are booooring   [;D]
Take care & let us know

ikod

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Thanks Iko .. I will go,, I just am kind  sick of going to the doctors.. HEE HEE.. But I must say waking up with what feels like half of a  fuzzy tongue is odd feeling.. Thanks will make another trip in..this week..My whole left side is feeling kinda weird even the skin on me head on the left,,kind of funky numby like when your arm goes to sleep. My shoulder is killing me about halfway down my arm ino my elbow.. LOL I thought I might have a pinched nerve but I don't know..

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I DO NOT wish to diagnose this but the experience I have had with arthritis of the jaw says the trigeminal nerve on the left side is compromised in some way. Be glad it doesn't hurt. That is called trigeminal neuralgia and is nick-named the Suicide Disease it hurts so bad.

Go to the doctor to be sure.
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I will go check it out this week. Thanks Jimbob!

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Thanks Iko .. I will go,, I just am kind  sick of going to the doctors.. HEE HEE.. But I must say waking up with what feels like half of a  fuzzy tongue is odd feeling.. Thanks will make another trip in..this week..My whole left side is feeling kinda weird even the skin on me head on the left,,kind of funky numby like when your arm goes to sleep. My shoulder is killing me about halfway down my arm ino my elbow.. LOL I thought I might have a pinched nerve but I don't know..

Not this week. Now!
Tell these very symptoms to a real doctor,
not through the web to a bunch of...
Please
« Last Edit: 26/05/2007 23:46:06 by iko »

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ok..Thanks

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Thanks Iko .. I will go,, I just am kind  sick of going to the doctors.. HEE HEE.. But I must say waking up with what feels like half of a  fuzzy tongue is odd feeling.. Thanks will make another trip in..this week..My whole left side is feeling kinda weird even the skin on me head on the left,,kind of funky numby like when your arm goes to sleep. My shoulder is killing me about halfway down my arm ino my elbow.. LOL I thought I might have a pinched nerve but I don't know..

Not this week. Now!
Tell these very symptoms to a real doctor,
not through the web to a bunch of...
Please


IN all seriousness IKO I need to thank you for sending me as I would have waited until next week.. I have been at the hospital since about 20 minutes or so after you told me to go and I saw your message at Midnight approximately so left about twenty minutes later and was there until 9:56 PM my time  6:00 am Your time..  I have had cat scans blood work exrays iv's with medication and ekg's, I had a mini stroke today and he has put me on a regime of aspirins and potassium as I was real low. I have a battery of other tests he has to do.. checked more .. and found my heart has enlarged more then the last check.. He said my blood tests were good my cat scan is really good but I have a pretty bad loss of use on my left arm.. feels very weak. face is still tingly and and weird . he wants me to stay close to the hospital till we get all the other tests done.. so i Will. He said if I had a full blown stroke time was critical to getting help!

There is nothing more I can say except thank you IKO thank you for giving me some extra time..

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Good show Karen!
You trusted your webfriend Ikod and went streight away to check the weekend-night
efficiency of your Health Care System! You are such a brave lady!
I wish you a quick recovery: the new magic medical tools we have these days (aspirin) make miracles in the tiny arteries of our brain.
I was worried after having posted my message to you, because you just disappeared from the NKS screen, and it was quite unusual for that hour.
I hoped you were following my suggestion, and you actually did!
I am sure you realized that it was the strangest feeling ever and could have been a more serious thing.
You took it on time for a perfect recovery.
Over 12 years ago my mum had a mini-stroke worse than yours and it never recurred: she is on low-dose daily aspirin ever since (plus 1caps. cod liver oil of course!).
Probably you have to relax and sleep more...no more NSForum intoxication!   [;D]
Take care

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« Last Edit: 27/05/2007 17:35:53 by iko »

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Thanks Iko .. I will go,, I just am kind  sick of going to the doctors.. HEE HEE.. But I must say waking up with what feels like half of a  fuzzy tongue is odd feeling.. Thanks will make another trip in..this week..My whole left side is feeling kinda weird even the skin on me head on the left,,kind of funky numby like when your arm goes to sleep. My shoulder is killing me about halfway down my arm ino my elbow.. LOL I thought I might have a pinched nerve but I don't know..

Not this week. Now!
Tell these very symptoms to a real doctor,
not through the web to a bunch of...
Please


IN all seriousness IKO I need to thank you for sending me as I would have waited until next week.. I have been at the hospital since about 20 minutes or so after you told me to go and I saw your message at Midnight approximately so left about twenty minutes later and was there until 9:56 PM my time  6:00 am Your time..  I have had cat scans blood work exrays iv's with medication and ekg's, I had a mini stroke today and he has put me on a regime of aspirins and potassium as I was real low. I have a battery of other tests he has to do.. checked more .. and found my heart has enlarged more then the last check.. He said my blood tests were good my cat scan is really good but I have a pretty bad loss of use on my left arm.. feels very weak. face is still tingly and and weird . he wants me to stay close to the hospital till we get all the other tests done.. so i Will. He said if I had a full blown stroke time was critical to getting help!

There is nothing more I can say except thank you IKO thank you for giving me some extra time..

OMG!  Are you at home?  Is the hospital not holding you there for observation?  What caused this to happen?  The new meds that you are taking for nausea? 
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I am Home. I have to go back in for a check today. He said I live close enough to get there fast if I were to have a full blown stroke.. He said That some controversial blood clot busting medication would have to be administered within 90 minutes of onset for them to be of any help. He said thousands of doctors swear by this medication.. but thousands say it is not worth the risk.. The medication is also known to kill the patient !! OH Boy..Makes me nervous..Just a bit..

I pray It doesn't happen. He said less stress no smoking drinking etc etc.. I don't do those things anyway.. Less stress and try to relax.. I am trying to relax!

He said The arteries in your neck can become lined with plaque like cholesterol build up, which blocks blood flow.. so more tests and an Ultra sound on my neck and my heart next week.
along with a myriad of other tests including a second cat scan . They did a brain scan yesterday,, but said after ex-rays he feels we need a body scan.. so OK I get to take a nap in a little tube... ... We will see how I do.. Pretty small tube they put you in.... He My cholesterol was good my bloodwork was good so far have to have some more, My blood pressure had shot out the roof with my meds.. urine was good and I do not have any form of diabetis which I already new, but my potassium was bad , he thinks because I have had such a irritable tummy lately kids have all been sick at school and I have had the problems with loose stools for several weeks.. and nausea from other meds.. He put me back on beta blocker.. and is going to try to decrease some meds to see if that will help. He said there are some combo meds that would help cut back the amount of pills I have to take..
I quite honestly feel kinda bad. My recollection of different parts of my day yesterday are kind a vague And I feel a bit confused about everything that happened.. I was already confused and things were not making a lot of sense yesterday as it was.. LOL   

Again IKo THanks  SO Very Much and you are right.. It was some odd things that I was feeling yesterday The only pain was my left arm it has hurt me before on many occasions. I did wake up with a funky headache that went away right away on both days..they went away fast, so I did not think about it further.. The fuzzy numb tongue and side of me face and head are what felt so strange...Still feel that a little on me tongue today but much better!

As I type this I realize I am sitting up in my chair and leaning to the left.. as my left arm is not working like it should..He said we will work on it!
I'll know more later this week!

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Girlie get you some rest!  Good Grief!!! Take care of yourself...I still can't believe the hospital did not keep you overnight or at least 24hrs for observation...ministrokes aren't too bad, but I had a friend who had an onset of them 3 or 4 in a row in one day...just mini ones...they kept her in the hospital for 24hrs after she arrived at the hospital.
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Girlie get you some rest!  Good Grief!!! Take care of yourself...I still can't believe the hospital did not keep you overnight or at least 24hrs for observation...mini strokes aren't too bad, but I had a friend who had an onset of them 3 or 4 in a row in one day...just mini ones...they kept her in the hospital for 24hrs after she arrived at the hospital.

Well I don't know what to say, They sent home medicated and ready to come back in the morning. I still have an Id on my arm for 72 hours to help administer medication should I have to have an ambulance ride back in in the next couple days! I think That is weird but Oh well. I am just about 10 minutes from the hospital so he said if anything worsened or new happened to call 911.. Kids are away for Holiday, so I will keep my phone on me.. It is in my pocket right now.. No problems.. I feel real tired still a bit numb on me tongue but some better. Arm is still hurting but I have'nt taken pain med yet.
« Last Edit: 27/05/2007 18:44:22 by Karen W. »

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Girlie get you some rest!  Good Grief!!! Take care of yourself...I still can't believe the hospital did not keep you overnight or at least 24hrs for observation...mini strokes aren't too bad, but I had a friend who had an onset of them 3 or 4 in a row in one day...just mini ones...they kept her in the hospital for 24hrs after she arrived at the hospital.

Well I don't know what to say, They sent home medicated and ready to come back in the morning. I still have an Id on my arm for 72 hours to help administer medication should I have to have an ambulance ride back in in the next couple days! I think That is weird but Oh well. I am just about 10 minutes from the hospital so he said if anything worsened or new happened to call 911.. Kids are away for Holiday, so I will keep my phone on me.. It is in my pocket right now.. No problems.. I feel real tired still a bit numb on me tongue but some better. Arm is still hurting but I have'nt taken pain med yet.

Hi Karen!

What a day you had!
If they sent you home to relax better is because you can do it safely.
Hospital stay is a major cause of stress and should be minimized.
BTW were do you live? Which Hospital is taking care of you so efficiently?
I'm interested to find this out...you never know!
I wish you a quick recovery and hope you won't overwork at least in this forum.
Hope your family is taking care of this almost-impossible-to-get RELAX and some sleep!
We'll keep you company through the net: you'll never be alone.
Cheers,

ikod
« Last Edit: 27/05/2007 19:00:49 by iko »

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It was Mad river Community Hospital.. I am in California.

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Hey Iko Why would he want a ultra sound of my heart.. he said he already seen that it was slightly inlarged ..I already new that from my own doctor. I am not sure I understand what that means but anyway! Thats what he said..
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Wow!
My sister in law lives in Pasadena and my younger son wants to go there for good!
Is it far away from you? I'll check this out on Google Earth and spot KarenW!

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Wow!
My sister in law lives in Pasadena and my younger son wants to go there for good!
Is it far away from you? I'll check this out on Google Earth and spot KarenW!

You'll have to google Arcata California.. we are 600 miles away from pasadena! That is southern California!LOL

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Hey Iko Why would he want a ultra sound of my heart.. he said he already seen that it was slightly inlarged ..I already new that from my own doctor. He did say that my congestive heart failure was not as progressed as I had been told by my doctor, none the less still there. I am not sure I understand what that means but anyway! Thats what he said..

I just give you some hints (I'm not your expert!)
In any mini-temporary stroke you cannot see easily what happened because tiny temporary clots could be the cause, or abnormally narrow arteries or other things. So you have to check everything to be sure.
Some little heart defects or heart enlargement plus valve problems could actually produce the tiny clots that go and bother brain arteries.
Your aspirin and the other drugs are already working fine, so calm down and relax, you'll fix this too dear Karen.
Take care

ikod
« Last Edit: 27/05/2007 19:19:17 by iko »

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Girlie get you some rest!  Good Grief!!! Take care of yourself...I still can't believe the hospital did not keep you overnight or at least 24hrs for observation...mini strokes aren't too bad, but I had a friend who had an onset of them 3 or 4 in a row in one day...just mini ones...they kept her in the hospital for 24hrs after she arrived at the hospital.

Well I don't know what to say, They sent home medicated and ready to come back in the morning. I still have an Id on my arm for 72 hours to help administer medication should I have to have an ambulance ride back in in the next couple days! I think That is weird but Oh well. I am just about 10 minutes from the hospital so he said if anything worsened or new happened to call 911.. Kids are away for Holiday, so I will keep my phone on me.. It is in my pocket right now.. No problems.. I feel real tired still a bit numb on me tongue but some better. Arm is still hurting but I have'nt taken pain med yet.

Hi Karen!

What a day you had!
If they sent you home to relax better is because you can do it safely.
Hospital stay is a major cause of stress and should be minimized.
BTW were do you live? Which Hospital is taking care of you so efficiently?
I'm interested to find this out...you never know!
I wish you a quick recovery and hope you won't overwork at least in this forum.
Hope your family is taking care of this almost-impossible-to-get RELAX and some sleep!
We'll keep you company through the net: you'll never be alone.
Cheers,

ikod


Thank you Ikod..*tears*... That means alot more then you can possibly know...

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Hey Iko Why would he want a ultra sound of my heart.. he said he already seen that it was slightly inlarged ..I already new that from my own doctor. He did say that my congestive heart failure was not as progressed as I had been told by my doctor, none the less still there. I am not sure I understand what that means but anyway! Thats what he said..

I just give you some hints (I'm not your expert!)
In any mini-temporary stroke you cannot see easily what happened because tiny temporary clots could be the cause, or abnormally narrow arteries or other things. So you have to check everything to be sure.
Some little heart defects or heart enlargment and valve problems could actually produce the tiny clots that go and bother brain arteries.
Your aspirin and the other drugs are already working fine, so calm down and relax, you'll fix this too dear Karen.
Take care

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Thanks LOL.. Thanks for the Hints Ikod,LOL.. I was just not sure, but that makes better sense now because of my my previous heart problems.. NOw friend ..LOL why can't  doctors not explain in a way that one can understand like you do! LOL

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Hey Iko Why would he want a ultra sound of my heart.. he said he already seen that it was slightly inlarged ..I already new that from my own doctor. He did say that my congestive heart failure was not as progressed as I had been told by my doctor, none the less still there. I am not sure I understand what that means but anyway! Thats what he said..

I just give you some hints (I'm not your expert!)
In any mini-temporary stroke you cannot see easily what happened because tiny temporary clots could be the cause, or abnormally narrow arteries or other things. So you have to check everything to be sure.
Some little heart defects or heart enlargment and valve problems could actually produce the tiny clots that go and bother brain arteries.
Your aspirin and the other drugs are already working fine, so calm down and relax, you'll fix this too dear Karen.
Take care

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Thanks LOL.. Thanks for the Hints Ikod,LOL.. I was just not sure, but that makes better sense now because of my my previous heart problems.. NOw friend ..LOL why can't  doctors not explain in a way that one can understand like you do! LOL

Because they are more fluent in English and talk too fast!   [;D] [;D] [;D]
But they seem to be sooooo good!

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YES! YES! I think you are right! LOL! I must say I have never seen a doctor this young for my heart problems, is that weird? I know he was a ER doctor.. but I am getting so old.. I worry, but then I think wait young bucks have good newer medicines and better (hopefully) Technology and updated repair kits!! LOL

My Heart surgeon ( Cardiologist) Is that the right term..LOL anyway, he Comes all the way From San Francisco to see me.. we are sort of in the sticks up here! 300 miles  to travel.

It's like going into the shop! Well Lets see what you have under the hood today! LOL..

Seriously it's still scary but ..the upside is that the alternative is even more scary..(I think!)
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Dear Karen,

let's have a very RELAXED chat for a change.
I remember you mentioned something like infection in the blood in a recent post of yours...
THIS could be the cause of what you had yesterday and I'm sure your doctors are working on that.
Some naughty 'fastidious' germs like to clutch at the inner layers of the heart and the valves (most of all), then detach from time to time, forming dangerous tiny-clots that are directly pumped to the brain...and create flow problems up there.
You are too young even for a mini-stroke (say thank you iko!) [:D]
so that might be the tiny clot explanation.
Fingers crossed: infection snagged, full course of antibiotics and Voilà!
A new hyper-energetic KarenW back on stage!
Wouldn't it be a great thing?
You may have a nice surprise from the blood tests they made yesterday.
Up with our new antibiotic Era!
Cheers,

ikod
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Dear Karen,

let's have a very RELAXED chat for a change.
I remember you mentioned something like infection in the blood in a recent post of yours...
THIS could be the cause of what you had yesterday and I'm sure your doctors are working on that.
Some naughty 'fastidious' germs like to clutch at the inner layers of the heart and the valves (most of all), then detach from time to time, forming dangerous tiny-clots that are directly pumped to the brain...and create flow problems up there.
You are too young even for a mini-stroke (say thank you iko!) [:D]
so that might be the tiny clot explanation.
Fingers crossed: infection snagged, full course of antibiotics and Voilą!
A new hyper-energetic KarenW back on stage!
Wouldn't it be a great thing?
You may have a nice surprise from the blood tests they made yesterday.
Up with our new antibiotic Era!
Cheers,

ikod

Why would he tell me I had a mini stroke if I am too young for that? It would be great as I thought only old people had strokes but was changing my mind after yesterday.. Do you think this is why he has ordered so many more tests.. The blood tests from yesterday were returned normal he said..He gave me all this paper work to read and Frankly stuff I don't understand..

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Wouldn't it have shown in the test results from yesterday.. I know they were not my doctor but she will get all the results tuesday as this is a holiday weekend..everyone and everything is closed except the hospital.. I have been awful tired again, but he has ordered more tests Blood work included for next week also.. that is besides what he did yesterday!

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Well I don't know what to say, They sent home medicated and ready to come back in the morning. I still have an Id on my arm for 72 hours to help administer medication should I have to have an ambulance ride back in in the next couple days! I think That is weird but Oh well. I am just about 10 minutes from the hospital so he said if anything worsened or new happened to call 911.. Kids are away for Holiday, so I will keep my phone on me.. It is in my pocket right now.. No problems.. I feel real tired still a bit numb on me tongue but some better. Arm is still hurting but I have'nt taken pain med yet.
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Good Lord!  They told you that!!!!!  Is there anyone with you?  You are ten minutes from hospital???  Please get some rest!  You have us worried now!  You need one of those call buttons with a chain so it will ring back to the hospital if they are going to release you like that!!!  OMG!  Please be careful!
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Dear Karen,

let's have a very RELAXED chat for a change.
I remember you mentioned something like infection in the blood in a recent post of yours...
THIS could be the cause of what you had yesterday and I'm sure your doctors are working on that.
Some naughty 'fastidious' germs like to clutch at the inner layers of the heart and the valves (most of all), then detach from time to time, forming dangerous tiny-clots that are directly pumped to the brain...and create flow problems up there.
You are too young even for a mini-stroke (say thank you iko!) [:D]
so that might be the tiny clot explanation.
Fingers crossed: infection snagged, full course of antibiotics and Voilą!
A new hyper-energetic KarenW back on stage!
Wouldn't it be a great thing?
You may have a nice surprise from the blood tests they made yesterday.
Up with our new antibiotic Era!
Cheers,

ikod

Why would he tell me I had a mini stroke if I am too young for that? It would be great as I thought only old people had strokes but was changing my mind after yesterday.. Do you think this is why he has ordered so many more tests.. The blood tests from yesterday were returned normal he said..He gave me all this paper work to read and Frankly stuff I don't understand..

It maybe be thought of an old person's problem, but there sure are a lot of young people who are having strokes...even more than mini ones...
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He said it was ok.. he was sending me home as I was close by but if I had to come back he said I could not drive myself this time..to call for help.. I assumed like IKo said I was ok this time.. he said if it were a more serious stroke it would have been different.. I think it is ok LO... Your making me nervous...STOP....Please..LOL I am sure it will be ok.. Robert showed up awhile ago and is actually cutting the grass.. He says .. He has let it go to long thats the only reason he came.. I don't believe him.... But I don't want to go there right now.. I am grateful he is here right now I don't care why!

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Why would he tell me I had a mini stroke if I am too young for that? It would be great as I thought only old people had strokes but was changing my mind after yesterday.. Do you think this is why he has ordered so many more tests.. The blood tests from yesterday were returned normal he said..He gave me all this paper work to read and Frankly stuff I don't understand..

Sorry Karen,

I did not explain it in the enthusiasm of my 'sharp' hypothesis!
Strokes from atherosclerosis are the most common, caused by tiny clots that come from 'plaques' in the arteries due to degeneration from age, high cholesterol and so on.
Strokes from infectious tiny clots are due to bacteria (from the skin, guts, throat) that managed to reach the circulating blood and clutch to heart valves.  This kind of infection is quite insidious, difficult to diagnose and it is commonly called 'subacute endocarditis': it can happen at any age, in the young like in the elderly.
You mentioned 'blood infection' some time ago, for that I thought of this possible alternative diagnosis as more consistent than in other cases with no 'infectious' history.
I hope I explained it properly now.
They will certainly tell you what happened!
Cheers,

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Dear Karen,

let's have a very RELAXED chat for a change.
I remember you mentioned something like infection in the blood in a recent post of yours...
THIS could be the cause of what you had yesterday and I'm sure your doctors are working on that.
Some naughty 'fastidious' germs like to clutch at the inner layers of the heart and the valves (most of all), then detach from time to time, forming dangerous tiny-clots that are directly pumped to the brain...and create flow problems up there.
You are too young even for a mini-stroke (say thank you iko!) [:D]
so that might be the tiny clot explanation.
Fingers crossed: infection snagged, full course of antibiotics and Voilą!
A new hyper-energetic KarenW back on stage!
Wouldn't it be a great thing?
You may have a nice surprise from the blood tests they made yesterday.
Up with our new antibiotic Era!
Cheers,

ikod

Why would he tell me I had a mini stroke if I am too young for that? It would be great as I thought only old people had strokes but was changing my mind after yesterday.. Do you think this is why he has ordered so many more tests.. The blood tests from yesterday were returned normal he said..He gave me all this paper work to read and Frankly stuff I don't understand..

It maybe be thought of an old person's problem, but there sure are a lot of young people who are having strokes...even more than mini ones...

Why in the world is this a changing statistic! Or is that due to drug use in those cases?? I don't do drugs so That rules me out.. I don't smoke or drink either so that isn't it! He suspected it was arteries but we won't know till later this week. he said, my cholestorol is great low actually, but he said he was still going to have them do the ultrasound on my neck to check the arteries. and another on the heart!

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Why would he tell me I had a mini stroke if I am too young for that? It would be great as I thought only old people had strokes but was changing my mind after yesterday.. Do you think this is why he has ordered so many more tests.. The blood tests from yesterday were returned normal he said..He gave me all this paper work to read and Frankly stuff I don't understand..

Sorry Karen,

I did not explain it in the enthusiasm of my 'sharp' hypothesis!
Strokes from atherosclerosis are the most common, caused by tiny clots that come from 'plaques' in the arteries due to degeneration from age, high cholesterol and so on.
Strokes from infectious tiny clots are due to bacteria (from the skin, guts, throat) that managed to reach the circulating blood and clutch to heart valves.  This kind of infection is quite insidious, difficult to diagnose and it is commonly called 'subacute endocarditis': it can happen at any age, in the young like in the elderly.
You mentioned 'blood infection' some time ago, for that I thought of this possible alternative diagnosis as more consistent than in other cases with no 'infectious' history.
I hope I explained it properly now.
They will certainly tell you what happened!
Cheers,

ikod

Thank you Iko  (DR. House LOL) Just teasing.. I thought something was missing! LOL That is a good explanation! SO it doesn't have to be from choleterol which would account for why my cholestrol is great!..It could come from the old problem still. aye aye aye! Thanks Iko..
Is it common for two rounds of antibiotics to not catch it completely.. I was treated twice.. for that?
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Is it common for two rounds of antibiotics to not catch it completely.. I was treated twice.. for that!

Sometimes you need longer antibiotic treatment...it depends on the germs.
Endocarditis from Whipple's disease -for example- is very rare (good for Dr. House only  [;D] ) and requires a particular antibiotic (fortunately very well tolerated) for at least 1 year.
But now you have to relax, just remember that.
Echo scan of your heart will rule out endocarditis in a few minutes.
Take care

ikod
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OK I am relaxing.. Just hard to relax....I am a nervous wreck.... Thanks Iko.. I am supposed to call Tuesday when everything is open.. to schedule the the thing.. I am trying not to take the pain killers as I hate all the medicine! I am taking the Aspirn which is helping my arm..some.. I am not thrilled with vicodine so only gonna use it if I have to!

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karen my friend's sister had a full blown stroke when she was sixteen. she didn't do drugs. i think it just happens sometimes. i know that's not a good answer...

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by the way she's twenty six now and very healthy

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Thanks Kadie.. That is good to hear.. very good.

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*Hugs Karen*
They say that when you die, your life flashes in front of you. Make it worth watching!