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Quote from: Dubbelosix on 08/08/2017 01:04:13Well, look. If I wanted to find some dynamic way to explain how rotation may even appear in a universe, I wouldn't think about it in terms of another supermassive black hole. Again, that just complicates things. Radically wild, and not even wrong (as in, cannot be disproven).How does it complicate things when you can't explain why there is a dark flow or why the black holes of galaxies spins are aligned or why the Universe has a preferred axis of rotation? All which are correctly explained by there being a Universal black hole.

Well, look. If I wanted to find some dynamic way to explain how rotation may even appear in a universe, I wouldn't think about it in terms of another supermassive black hole. Again, that just complicates things. Radically wild, and not even wrong (as in, cannot be disproven).

But my model does explain dark flow, in exactly the same way the Godel universe does. In fact, I have derived equations of motion for the exponential spiral trajectories for the dust particles to couple strongly to a rapidly rotating universe which should decay as the scale factor increases (universe gets bigger). Things tend to couple to the motion of the early universe. This explains dark flow naturally and easily.

Quote from: Dubbelosix on 08/08/2017 01:21:43But my model does explain dark flow, in exactly the same way the Godel universe does. In fact, I have derived equations of motion for the exponential spiral trajectories for the dust particles to couple strongly to a rapidly rotating universe which should decay as the scale factor increases (universe gets bigger). Things tend to couple to the motion of the early universe. This explains dark flow naturally and easily."Equations of motion" don't explain what is occurring physically in nature which causes dark flow, the galaxy's spins to be aligned or what is occurring physically in nature which causes the Universe to have a preferred axis of rotation.

You're not listening to me, there is no problem with the mechanism, the same fluid dynamics existed for the Godel metric which also effected dust inside of a rotating universe. There is no mechanism problem for the coupling of universal rotation and the systems within it. If you rotate a fluid, you will displace particles inside of it.

Quote from: Dubbelosix on 08/08/2017 01:34:02You're not listening to me, there is no problem with the mechanism, the same fluid dynamics existed for the Godel metric which also effected dust inside of a rotating universe. There is no mechanism problem for the coupling of universal rotation and the systems within it. If you rotate a fluid, you will displace particles inside of it.Q. What is rotating the cosmological fluid which is causing the particles inside it to displace?A. The Universal black hole.

Take a read of this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_solution

Dust solutions can also be used to model finite rotating disks of dust grains; some examples are listed below. If superimposed somehow on a stellar model comprising a ball of fluid surrounded by vacuum, a dust solution could be used to model an accretion disk around a massive object

Though, technically-speaking my theory does not give an origin to rotation, it didn't really need one because talking about rotation as an intrinsic property, may sound strange, but there is evidence for this in the full Poincare symmetry group, which describes any translations, rotations ect in spacetime. So, while you may think it is pertinent to explain rotation in some dynamic way, from the viewpoint of Poincare symmetry, rotation should be a part of nature regardless. Nevertheless, my model not only explains dark flow, but explains why it is detected to be so slow. Something I have not seen any other model tackle or a question even talked about.

Quote from: Dubbelosix on 08/08/2017 01:40:59Take a read of this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_solutionDust modelQuoteDust solutions can also be used to model finite rotating disks of dust grains; some examples are listed below. If superimposed somehow on a stellar model comprising a ball of fluid surrounded by vacuum, a dust solution could be used to model an accretion disk around a massive objectFor example, it could be used to model the accretion disk of our Universal black hole.

Quote from: Dubbelosix on 08/08/2017 01:44:36Though, technically-speaking my theory does not give an origin to rotation, it didn't really need one because talking about rotation as an intrinsic property, may sound strange, but there is evidence for this in the full Poincare symmetry group, which describes any translations, rotations ect in spacetime. So, while you may think it is pertinent to explain rotation in some dynamic way, from the viewpoint of Poincare symmetry, rotation should be a part of nature regardless. Nevertheless, my model not only explains dark flow, but explains why it is detected to be so slow. Something I have not seen any other model tackle or a question even talked about.intrinsic = it's magic!Provide a link where Poincare symmetry describes what is occurring physically in nature which causes the rotation.This is getting us nowhere. You appear to be insisting mathematical equations equal physical definitions where I am insisting that is incorrect. Good luck.

So how come we can track the evolution of the universe from a common origin? How do the background tempertaures appear, what causes the vast array of particles in your ''outflow'' theory?

You see, to scientists, the Poincare symmetry group, is very important and relates to physics. Obviously it has properties, it is non-abelian; but more importantly rotation and torsion are part of the full Poincare group theory of the symmetries of spacetime. It is so important though, for instance, the Poincare group is the minimal subgroup of the affine group, which itself includes all the translations and the all-important Lorentz transformations.By the way, you say this is my thread, stop making elongated posts repeating the things you have said please. I get your picture, I just don't agree with it. I think it's wrong.

Quote from: Dubbelosix on 08/08/2017 02:03:42You see, to scientists, the Poincare symmetry group, is very important and relates to physics. Obviously it has properties, it is non-abelian; but more importantly rotation and torsion are part of the full Poincare group theory of the symmetries of spacetime. It is so important though, for instance, the Poincare group is the minimal subgroup of the affine group, which itself includes all the translations and the all-important Lorentz transformations.By the way, you say this is my thread, stop making elongated posts repeating the things you have said please. I get your picture, I just don't agree with it. I think it's wrong.I asked for a link that relates the Poincare group to an explanation as to what is occurring physically in nature which causes rotation. You appear to have responded with only mathematical constructs.

They arise because they are invariances of spacetime.

In physics, spacetime is any mathematical model ...

our galaxy is swimming in a superfluid sea

dark matter is smooth, distributed more evenly throughout space than we thought

You're posting whatever the hell you like now. This is my thread and you are hijacking it with your mad theories.

Quote from: Dubbelosix on 08/08/2017 02:20:44You're posting whatever the hell you like now. This is my thread and you are hijacking it with your mad theories.Spacetime is a mathematical construct. Curved spacetime is geometry. It's not the underlying physical phenomenon responsible for gravity.I was trying to get you to understand the difference between mathematical constructs and physical reality. I failed.