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If I am vaccinated, are anti-vaxers still putting me at risk?

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If I am vaccinated, are anti-vaxers still putting me at risk?
« on: 03/03/2020 11:53:39 »
Dan asks:

If my family and I are vaccinated, are we still at risk of getting the disease because of the anti-vaccine movement?

What do you think?
« Last Edit: 03/03/2020 17:31:04 by chris »
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Re: If I am vaccinated, are anti-vaxers still putting me at risk?
« Reply #1 on: 03/03/2020 13:53:43 »
No. They might prosecute you for vaccinating your children, or lynch you for defying the Will of God, but they can't infect you with whatever you were vaccinated against.

The anti-vaccine movement is probably self-limiting, but why anyone would wish to have deformed grandchildren is beyond my comprehension.   
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Re: If I am vaccinated, are anti-vaxers still putting me at risk?
« Reply #2 on: 03/03/2020 17:30:29 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 03/03/2020 13:53:43
they can't infect you with whatever you were vaccinated against.

Regrettably, they potentially can. Not all vaccines work in everybody, or produce a long-term effect. In our laboratory, we are now regularly seeing mumps cases in previously-vaccinated individuals who presumably did not respond with a protective immune response to their MMR.

This is why herd immunity (whereby 95% of the population are vaccinated) is so important, because it suppresses circulation and provides umbrella protection for unvaccinated individuals (including kids under 1 who've not been vaccinated yet), and people like those I'm referring to with vaccine failure.

So by eschewing vaccination, these people are putting many more than just the unvaccinated at risk...
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Re: If I am vaccinated, are anti-vaxers still putting me at risk?
« Reply #3 on: 03/03/2020 21:33:32 »
In addition to that direct risk, the antivaxers are spreading the idea that evidence isn't important in decision making.
That may be a bigger risk to you than the infections.
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Re: If I am vaccinated, are anti-vaxers still putting me at risk?
« Reply #4 on: 03/03/2020 22:33:16 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 03/03/2020 21:33:32
In addition to that direct risk, the antivaxers are spreading the idea that evidence isn't important in decision making.
That may be a bigger risk to you than the infections.

Yes, well said.
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Re: If I am vaccinated, are anti-vaxers still putting me at risk?
« Reply #5 on: 03/03/2020 22:50:09 »
Too late. That infection has already taken over the White House, apparently by popular acclaim.
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Re: If I am vaccinated, are anti-vaxers still putting me at risk?
« Reply #6 on: 05/04/2020 17:15:39 »
Quote from: chris on 03/03/2020 17:30:29
Quote from: alancalverd on 03/03/2020 13:53:43
they can't infect you with whatever you were vaccinated against.

Regrettably, they potentially can. Not all vaccines work in everybody, or produce a long-term effect. In our laboratory, we are now regularly seeing mumps cases in previously-vaccinated individuals who presumably did not respond with a protective immune response to their MMR.



Something wrong here. Everyone knows vaccines make you invincible.
So why should non-vaccinated people effect you? What are you scared of?

Are you the smoker who feels more secure if other people smoke too and forever offering cigarettes?
« Last Edit: 05/04/2020 17:22:10 by profound »
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