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Are we sub-atomically connected to everybody we meet?
« on: 09/11/2018 16:26:00 »
Nicus wants to know:

I would just like to know out of interest. Have any studies been done on quantum mechanics and physics and sex? Or basically, human beings getting in contact with each other. Is there scientific evidence that we ‘become one’ for lack of a better description? I recently watched a movie called 'The Laws of Thermodynamics' and it mentioned something but not completely in this regard. Especially related to electrons.

Are we connected to everything and everybody that we meet in some way sub-atomically?  [/b][/i]

What do you think?
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« Reply #1 on: 09/11/2018 19:21:51 »
Quote from: EvaH on 09/11/2018 16:26:00
Nicus wants to know:

I would just like to know out of interest. Have any studies been done on quantum mechanics and physics and sex? Or basically, human beings getting in contact with each other. Is there scientific evidence that we ‘become one’ for lack of a better description? I recently watched a movie called 'The Laws of Thermodynamics' and it mentioned something but not completely in this regard. Especially related to electrons.

Are we connected to everything and everybody that we meet in some way sub-atomically?  [/b][/i]

What do you think?


For Whom Does the Bell Troll?  lol
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« Reply #2 on: 09/11/2018 23:02:13 »
The regions of the brain communicate in part via oscillations.  These oscillations evoke frequencies Alpha , Beta, Delta, Theta. Each with it's unique frequency elicits a human behavioral response. Can this response be transfered to another human being?  Can a relaxed person cause another person to relax? Can a busy person motivate another person? Can a drowsy person cause another person to be tired? All human have these innate oscillation patterns. Is pattern recognition only mimicry? or are human sensitives enough to sense others oscillation patterns? eg: mass psychotic behavior such as mass hallucinations, mass hypnosis, mass hysteria, mass paranoia  and other such psychosis behavior were caused by an elevated or over stimulated brain oscillation function on a mass scale. Can this increase in a social behavioral response be attributed to mimicry alone?  seems that surpasses mere mimicry in it's abandon of normal brain behavior.  I only provide the above examples as they provide the best examples of transference of oscillation patterns.

These mass behaviors patterns can be found in all living things.  Fish swimming in schools, birds flying in unison, insects swarming, whales beaching. Any behavior where a mass of individuals act in unison as one, may represent a oscillation pattern that is extended beyond simple social mimicry.  lol

 
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« Reply #3 on: 10/11/2018 15:20:26 »
To me it seems plausible that animals without language to articulate detail would be more sensitive to the brains oscillation frequencies. Clearly animals exhibit better interspecies emotional non verbal intelligence. Humans have a devolved sense as a result of  atrophy from lack of use. This is just an intuitive reading! lol
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Re: Are we sub-atomically connected to everybody we meet?
« Reply #4 on: 10/11/2018 17:18:00 »
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Have any studies been done on quantum mechanics...Especially related to electrons.
Yes. Electrons often behave in a quantum-mechanical states, such as:
- one electron being in 2 places simultaneously (2 slit experiment),
- An electron having a non-classical spin direction (probabilistically up or down at the same time)
- two electrons being entangled, so they share a common state (used in quantum computers and sensitive detectors)

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Are we connected to everything and everybody that we meet in some way sub-atomically?
Frequently, when one of your atoms bumps into another atom, that will cause the outer electrons of your atoms to change state, or the vibrations of your molecules to change state, at least temporarily. Both of these are quantum phenomena.

This can happen when:
- Two atoms of your body bump into each other
- A molecule of air bumps into an atom of your body
- A photon of light bounces off someone and strikes a your retina (or anywhere else on your body)
- You hear the voice of another person, which slightly changes the pattern of air molecules bumping into the atoms of your eardrum (or anywhere else on your body)
- An atom of your body bumps into an atom of another person's body
- Your body is living and breathing at 37C, instead of being frozen solid in a dark vacuum at -273.15C
- ie all the time!

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Are we connected to everything and everybody that we meet in some way sub-atomically? ...Especially related to sex.
Traditionally, sex has been used to sell everything.
Today, "Quantum" is used to sell many things, so I guess they are linked, from a Marketing perspective.

Quantum effects are easy to measure on the scale of an electron, and even detectable on the scale of a molecule having 60 atoms in a vacuum near absolute zero. However, with any currently forseen technology, quantum effects are impossible to detect at the scale of a human being at 37C, having somewhere around 1030 atoms.

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Is there scientific evidence that we ‘become one’ for lack of a better description?
In the language of the traditional marriage ceremony, two people become one when they are married.
- this could perhaps be seen as a form of biological imprinting, producing an hormonal and emotional attachment
- Two people have to work together, being considerate of the other person's needs, if it is to work well
- It often results in two people's economic assets becoming entangled
- It can be extremely damaging when a relationship like this is broken, whether through death or divorce

In the technical sense, I don't see this as having anything to do with a quantum-mechanical entanglement.
- but I'm sure that if someone wanted to wax lyrical, they could say things like:
- You affect each other when you touch
- You affect each other when you see or hear the other person
- What you do affects the other person, even when they are far away

...but that's poetry, not science!
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Re: Are we sub-atomically connected to everybody we meet?
« Reply #5 on: 10/11/2018 18:35:51 »
It would be more useful to think in terms of memetics rather than quantum mechanics. Memes connect people in both good and bad ways. They can be positive as in #metoo or negative as in "no collusion!". These become ingrained and can be associated with cultish behaviour. Not at all based on science.
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