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Can you describe your revelation, and explain the circumstances of it
It sounds like you are saying that 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 hot dogs is equal to 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 universes. That would make 1 hot dog = 1 universe.
Nope, not even close to what I'm saying.
Quote from: andreasva on 30/12/2018 03:21:12Nope, not even close to what I'm saying. Then why say anything about .0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 hot dogs at all?
That hot dog cannot be greater than itself.
.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 hot dogs is <∞.
Nor can the Universe.
Infinity is not a defined state,
Infinity is not a defined state, Guess again.
You know as well as I do that infinity can only be defined through human reason.
When you break down the universe, everything is a fraction of the whole, that sits between 0 and Ι1Ι.
Those are the only two real numbers that define the universe. Infinity is everything in between.
Infinity is pass through knowledge, like god.
There are an infinite number of values between 0 and 1.That is not the same as saying that infinity is in that range.It is clearly bigger.
Actually, with an infinite whole,
If the whole basis of your argument is that I'm wrong, because that's what others have taught you, then we all may as well go back to church and call it a day.
Then why are you debating me? To boost your own ego maybe?
Common sense tells us the universe is infinite, so lets keep going and find a version that does work.
Text book definitions don't mean anything where infinity is concerned, as applied to a state of the universe.
Nobody knows what it means.
All that's needed to fulfill an infinite state, is the constancy of change.
Size does not mean anything. We are not infinitely large, but we're not finite either.
No, you're wrong because math doesn't work the way you say it does.
Because you claim that one is greater than infinity when it isn't.
Once upon a time, common sense told us that the Earth was flat and that the Sun went around the Earth.
Then that means you had to change the definition of infinity in order to make your idea work. When you can change definitions, you can "prove" anything.
You realize that "nobody" must include you too, right?
According to what definition (other than the one you invented)?
Then what aspect of the Universe are you claiming is infinite?
I changed the definition of infinity,
No, I claimed the absence of finite is infinite.
The entire universe in which we exist.
Have you solved pi yet?
I changed the definition of infinity because it is wrong.
Not a single person can say with any certainty, ∞>1, or ∞>0.
Or, we could just accept that the universe is infinite as we proved mathematically.
You continually say |1| > ∞ > 0. So yes, you are saying that 1 is greater than infinity (unless you've conveniently changed the definition of > symbol as well).
Quote from: andreasva on Today at 00:35:53 Not a single person can say with any certainty, ∞>1, or ∞>0.I just realized that you have contradicted yourself again earlier. In the above quote, you say that infinity being greater than zero is not certain. Yet you say the following in many other posts:
Then you need to come up with a new word to describe what you are talking about instead of using a word that already has a commonly-accepted definition.
Seeing as constancy of change is the observed natural order of the universe, it cannot be considered finite, and therefore, must be considered infinite.