[seeker3 (OP)]

Levity is 10^36 stronger than gravity. Use levity to generate lifting force is possible.

The ship is a ball shape capacitor, out side shell is negative charged, carry extra electrons, inside shell is positive charged, carries less electrons.

A transformer to adjust the voltage to control the lifting force.

Between the surface of the ship and the surface of the earth existing levity F=Ke x pq/R^2, where p is the total lines of sight electron charge on earth surface, q is the total lines of sight electron charge on the ship. Increase the number of electrons on the ship surface will increase levity.

Logically sounding to me. Share the idea with you.

 

[syhprum]

The "Hotspur" an adventure magazine published by D C Thompson that I used to read as a boy had just such a spaceship touring the solar system but it seems they never got into production.

[seeker3 (OP)]

Common tech, did anyone tried prototype?

[Bored chemist]

Levity is 10^36 stronger than gravity.

I presume you are actually referring to the electromagnetic force.
You should probably call it by its proper name.

Presently I will walk upstairs to go to the bathroom.
In doing so I will use the muscles of my legs.
They, in turn, rely on electrostatic forces.
So the idea of using such forces is hardly new.

Those same forces are responsible for the heat produced when you burn kerosene in the presence of oxygen.
And that's how spaceships etc have been lifted for decades.

So, this whole thread is based on the OP's failure to understand existing physics.

[seeker3 (OP)]

Use the same principle, we can build floating city and flying board.

[Bored chemist]

Use the same principle, we can build floating city and flying board.

Go on then.

[Kryptid]

I think you mean "propulsion" system. Although electrons do repel each other electrostatically, I can see three problems with this idea:

(1) There are limits to how much charge separation you can get. This is partly due to energy limitations (it takes more and more energy to push negatively-charged electrons against the repulsion of the increasingly negatively-charged shell) and partly due to insulator limitations (electrons will eventually start leaking from the negative shell to the positive shell).

(2) If you can overcome the first problem, then the second problem will be arching. Much as a lightning bolt occurs when too much negative charge builds up in the clouds, you can expect an electric discharge to jump from the negative shell to the ground when its negative charge becomes too strong. This will put another limit on how strongly you can charge the shell.

(3) If you can solve the first two problems, the third problem is with polarizability. Electrons in the ground will be repelled away from the negative electric field while the nuclei in the ground will be attracted towards it. This will create a patch of slight positive charge on the ground directly underneath your vehicle. So counter intuitively, this will actually lead to an overall attraction to the ground instead of a repulsion.

[seeker3 (OP)]

I think you mean "propulsion" system. Although electrons do repel each other electrostatically, I can see three problems with this idea:

(1) There are limits to how much charge separation you can get. This is partly due to energy limitations (it takes more and more energy to push negatively-charged electrons against the repulsion of the increasingly negatively-charged shell) and partly due to insulator limitations (electrons will eventually start leaking from the negative shell to the positive shell).

(2) If you can overcome the first problem, then the second problem will be arching. Much as a lightning bolt occurs when too much negative charge builds up in the clouds, you can expect an electric discharge to jump from the negative shell to the ground when its negative charge becomes too strong. This will put another limit on how strongly you can charge the shell.

(3) If you can solve the first two problems, the third problem is with polarizability. Electrons in the ground will be repelled away from the negative electric field while the nuclei in the ground will be attracted towards it. This will create a patch of slight positive charge on the ground directly underneath your vehicle. So counter intuitively, this will actually lead to an overall attraction to the ground instead of a repulsion.

Thanks for correcting my typo and reasonable comment. Those are good points to concern.

Build and test is the way to go. 

[seeker3 (OP)]

Search gravity defying technology on youtube, find this comment, very interesting.


SpaceManAus
2 months ago (edited)
I have seen two man made anti-gravity vehicles made here in Australia back in 1974 one was made by the Victorian Railway in Melbourne and the other was by the military, I got to see a book for a moment that a friends dad had about the one made by the military for a moment, but my friend freaked out when he noticed me reading it, but I did read that it used 150,000DCV into anything it levitates.
The one I walked behind had a small nuclear power plant the man was sitting on, it was about 4ft round and 4ft high and was under the 20ft diameter by 2ft thick framework that seemed to be made of angle iron, riveted together and made no noise as it floated away from me.
But the one made by the railway company was the disk shape, it flew over my grandparents’ house only about 30ft of the ground.
I was not sure if I should run or stay, but since the trees had not melted I decided to stay and watch it go over my head, it had what looked like a red glowing ring about 10ft in diameter in the centre with five other ones spread evenly around the outside of the large one and the outer edge of the disk, this was published in the local newspaper and made the paper about an inch thick as it had the blueprints on how to build it inside of it, so anyone that had the money could build their own, they did this because the government would not fund a larger one that could carry 200 passages, they claimed they would not back an unproven technology even though they had flown one around.

I promise you reading this I am telling you the truth and have no need to lie to you, I grew up thinking by the time I needed a license we would be driving around in fling cars and was so excited, if only I knew about suppression and kept a copy of that paper.
 

[Kryptid]

You don't know if a random person on YouTube is telling the truth or not. Besides, even if they did see a UFO, that doesn't mean it works by electrostatic repulsion.

[seeker3 (OP)]

All forces are electrostatic force in nature. Because all matters are made from atoms, all atoms are formed from charged particles, charged particles only carry electrostatic force.

Simple fact and logic.

I twitted to spacex, blueorigin, nasa jpl, hopefully, they will give it a try. Much better idea than EM drive etc.

Rocket fuel technology is not good enough.

[Kryptid]

All forces are electrostatic force in nature.

Gravity isn't. The strong force isn't. The weak force isn't.

charged particles only carry electrostatic force.

Electrons also carry the weak force, whereas protons and neutrons carry the strong force. Then there's gravity.

Simple fact and logic.

Neither factual nor logical.

I twitted to spacex, blueorigin, nasa jpl, hopefully, they will give it a try. Much better idea than EM drive etc.

How can a machine that is attracted to the ground fly? See my third point in reply #6.

Rocket fuel technology is not good enough.

That's actually something that most scientists would agree with you on. Nuclear rockets and light sails would allow you to move much faster.

[seeker3 (OP)]

Fundamental Forces

All matters are made from atoms, all atoms are made from charged particles.

Charged particles only carry electrostatic force, therefore all forces matters carried must be electrostatic force in nature. Same charges repel each other, opposite charges attract each other.

Strong and weak force are imaginary, never can be measured or calculated. If there is strong force that can make protons stick together, there must be a strong force carrier, and it must be negative charged. If there is a weak force, what is the force carrier? What is its charge? How can all atoms are neutrally charged?

Magnetic force is circular electrostatic force carried by magnet or circular current. Magnet north pole carries clockwise electric force, south pole carries counterclockwise electric force.   

Coulomb's force and gravity are the most accurate measured forces in labs. Magnetic force is used daily.

From Coulomb's Law, we can calculate the universal levitation force between matter 1 and matter 2 at distance R, which is the repulsion force between lines of sight electrons on the surface of matter 1 and matter 2. F=Ke x q1q2/R^2, q1 and q2 are total charge of lines of sight electrons on matter 1 and matter 2.

Levity is 10^36 times stronger than gravity, how come matters are still attracting each other with gravity?

Because gravity is the net electrostatic force between charged particles between neutrally charged matters.

All positive charges in matter 1 attract all negative charges in matter 2 and repel all positive charges, all negative charges in matter 1 attract all positive charges in matter 2 and repel all negative charges.

Due to electrostatic force induction between neutrally charges matters, the net force is always a weak attraction force we called gravity F=G x m1m2/R^2.

Gravity causes matter formation, planet in orbit. Coulomb's force and levity causes all other nature phenomenon. Such as quantum entanglement, induction, photoelectric effect, radiation and light.

Forces are coexisting with matters, forces are continuing and instantaneously through out space, therefore energy able to teleport between matters.

Hot plasma on the Sun carry vibrating electrostatic force/energy, that energy teleport to Earth outer atmosphere through levity and propagate in air at light speed.

LIGO mistaken detected gravity wave from 1.3 billion years ago, gravity is instantaneous, gravity wave is instant. If gravity is not instantaneous, no planets can have stable orbit.

Scientists mistaken accurate measured Milky Way Galaxy total mass. They thought far away stars are from the past, light is photon particles traveling in space at light speed.

The fact is all matters and energy are existing at forever ongoing now, nothing is existing in the past or future. There is no such thing as photon particle, no photon or EM wave traveling in space at light speed.

Light is vibrating electrostatic force carried by vibrating electrons propagating through matter produced mechanical wave. Light can only coexist with matter, charge and plasma. Light speed in a medium is the rate of induction of electrostatic force. There is no light in space, light teleport between matters in space instantly.

All theories based on light speed in vacuum space is C are mistaken.

Stars are not fusion reactors. Stars don’t radiate light into space at light speed at all directions. Energy must coexist with matter. Stars only radiate thermal energy with planets according to their distance. If stars are fusion reactors, where is all the energy produced in the past? Why the temperature of the universe is not raising up?

All energy is came from atom formation, opposite charged particles attract each other, same charged particles repel each other, atoms able to form and carry formation energy, which is vibration electrostatic force carried by vibrating charged particles. Every atom is a perpetual machine.

The more atoms attracted together under gravity, the bigger mass, the higher energy density, the higher temperature and the higher vibration frequency.

The Sun shares its thermal energy with Earth, also works as a heat sink, it keeps Earth temperature stable. All the heat we produced is radiated to the Sun, therefore Earth temperature is not raising up.

Energy is conserved, the universe is a perpetual machine, the big bang theory is mistaken.

Light sail is scam. navy laser cannot move a flame, there is no photon particle such thing. nuclear rocket is BS.

[Kryptid]

All you did was repost the exact same anti-science material from before...

[seeker3 (OP)]

It is important to realize that in physics today, we have no knowledge of what energy is. We do not have a picture that energy comes in little blobs of a definite amount. It is not that way. -Feynman

All these fifty years of conscious brooding have brought me no nearer to the answer to the question, 'What are light quanta?' Nowadays every Tom, D i c k and Harry thinks he knows it, but he is mistaken. - Einstein

Tell them what is photon.

[Kryptid]

Again, just posting things that you've already posted before and that have been addressed elsewhere...

[seeker3 (OP)]

All you did was repost the exact same anti-science material from before...

500 physics professors, no one said my theory is anti-science. Is Coulomb's Law anti-science?

[seeker3 (OP)]

You should look around, who else is with you?

Go to every thread making comments makes you happy?

You really make me feel sick.

[Kryptid]

500 physics professors, no one said my theory is anti-science.

Weasel words. None of them said anything about your ideas at all.

Is Coulomb's Law anti-science?

No, but here are some examples of what you've said that are anti-science:

- Scientists are lying about signal delays between spacecraft.
- The strong and weak nuclear force don't exist.
- Light doesn't move through a vacuum.
- The speed of light in a vacuum hasn't been measured.
- Nuclear rockets are BS.
- Light sails are a scam.
- Stars don't work by fusion.
- Gravity is caused by electrostatic attraction.
- Gravitational lensing is caused by diffraction through the Sun's atmosphere.
- Photons don't exist.

You should look around, who else is with you?

Bored Chemist and The Spoon have agreed in other threads that what you post is wrong.

Go to every thread making comments makes you happy?

If it doesn't take much effort for me to refute, yes.

[seeker3 (OP)]

Is science definitely real?

Not at all.

Photoelectric effect theory won a Nobel Prize. But it is incorrect.

If photon has momentum, why navy laser weapon has no kinetic impact?

Why light mill does not move in hard vacuum?

Why photons don't slow down in water like bullets?

LIGO lied detected gravity wave for more funding.

Gravity is coexisted with all matters, therefore gravity wave must be instantaneous.

If gravity speed is not infinite, planets cannot stay in stable orbit.

Simple facts, why Nobel Prize awarded to LIGO?