[duffyd]

Even after 2,000 years! they haven't created a single really decent argument to challenge let alone to defeat the Gospel. I'm disappointed. Yet, because you can't fake Who Jesus was, it is practically impossible to draw up something that would actually give us a run for our money. I mean, He establishes His Reality on so many levels. Once, I saw someone make a lot of headway. At roughly the last minute, the humanity of Christ shone into the debate and crushed the poor guy.

[CliveG]

Former “Cheers” TV star Woody Harrelson recently posted a report “about the negative effects of 5G” and its supposed role in the coronavirus pandemic to his more than 2 million Instagram followers.

Thanks for the clarification.
Your view agrees with that of a man paid to pretend about things, but not with that of a man paid to know about things.

Oddly, the evidence (From China etc) still shows you are wrong.

I have a problem with the viewpoints and reasoning held by most movie stars. However, the one thing they do have is followers and are able to get a message out. All those scientists writing papers, and also letters to politicians, have had no effect. Many humans operate on emotion.

It is like the stock market. It never fails to amaze me with the ability of "professionals" to pump it up with hype. So what if companies are collapsing and unemployment is high. It is a buying opportunity. Buy, buy, buy - and the sheeple follow. This is round 3 of Satan's plan of destruction, so one can expect more calamity.

Anyhow, My wife and I need a respite from the bad news and the lockdown. The deeds office is closed and the sale of our former house is being stalled. We really need that to go through soon. My wife is stressing.

[CliveG]

Tell me why I am wrong.

I don't know why you are wrong. I'm guessing at willful ignorance. It's not as if you haven't been told the real facts.
Don't you understand that the vaccine prevents many thousands of cases each year (and reduces the impact of tens of thousands more)?
If you don't understand that, you should learn more before you post more.
If you do understand that many cases are prevented, you shouldn't say " influenza continues to defeat every attempt to prevent or cure it"
But, yet you do.

Why is that?
Why do you say stuff that you should know is nonsense?

You make me sigh a lot. Sigh. Why do you persist in trying to prove yourself right and prove others always wrong?

We have flu all the time. Some seasons are worse. The vaccines are only effective for a particular strain which often is not the latest. So what if you prevent some illnesses. The basic statement is that influenza continues to plague humankind in its various forms and science is has not won the battle as it has with other diseases. The age-old technique of isolation (voluntary or by die-off of pockets) is the only technique we have to resist the spread.

[CliveG]

My hypothesis about cell radiation spreads. Of course, it it not just 5G

There is no reason to imagine that it is even slightly related to 5G.
Just look at the  spread through the world.

You know what I meant. It is 2G, 3G, 4G as well as 5G and includes any form of pulsed microwave from any device at all. The pulsed microwave affect cells and degrades them. The longer the exposure, the worse the affect on humans. Older people are more likely to get dementia. Others more likely to get rare cancers. Sperm counts drop.

The EMF radiation does not give one Covid-19 as many articles say is being said. That is a straw-man statement so that the telcos can easily discredit any suggestion that EMFs are a co-factor.

Sweden is not practicing distancing or masks. They have high EMF exposure. Are they going to take a very serious hit when it finally reaches the explosive number of cases?

[CliveG]

Evidence. Three types. Scientific, legal and anecdotal. Let us take hydroxyquinone against Covid-19

At the moment science says it does not know. Anecdotes say it seems to work.

There is a book called "The Case for Christ" by Lee Stroebel which deals with the evidence for Christ as if it were a legal matter to prove. He says legally anyone would win a legal case based on the evidence considered admissible.

[duffyd]

It is like the stock market. It never fails to amaze me with the ability of "professionals" to pump it up with hype. So what if companies are collapsing and unemployment is high

I hear ya Clive. That's one reason I like DCA. I buy more shares when the markets drop, less when prices are high. Nothing compares to the return on investment as the Big Board, historically. It has weathered some nasty storms and continues barreling ahead.  I think there's truth in what some folks say, that the markets reflect what they anticipate will happen in the future.
The West is too talented, too driven, to resourceful not to blast through this mess, and it will. Things will be better than ever. No inflation, low interest rates, employment figures will bounce back and pent up demand is gasoline looking for a spark. You'll see. 

[duffyd]

Evidence. Three types. Scientific, legal and anecdotal. Let us take hydroxyquinone against Covid-19

At the moment science says it does not know. Anecdotes say it seems to work.

There is a book called "The Case for Christ" by Lee Stroebel which deals with the evidence for Christ as if it were a legal matter to prove. He says legally anyone would win a legal case based on the evidence considered admissible.

I like Lee. He has some good stuff to offer. C S Lewis is my fav and always will be. He was a harsh critic of Higher Criticism and Literary Criticism in particular. Just from his own experience as a writer/author he knew others could not figure out his mindset as he wrote.

Personal testimony is powerful, too. Especially when it is consistent, reliable and shared by millions. Plenty of it is comparable to double-blind controlled conditions. 

[duffyd]

Nothing compares to the return on investment as the Big Board,

Over long periods of time, an S&P 500 index fund has historically produced total returns in the 9–10% range.
Meanwhile, real estate prices tend to outpace inflation, but not by much.
Rule of 72 means that at 10% you double your money in 7.2 years.

[Bored chemist]

You know what I meant. It is 2G, 3G, 4G as well as 5G and includes any form of pulsed microwave from any device at all.

So, you mean all the forms of phone traffic that are going up where the virus is going down?

You are arguing against yourself.

[Bored chemist]

Sweden is not practicing distancing or masks. They have high EMF exposure. Are they going to take a very serious hit when it finally reaches the explosive number of cases?

Yes, they are. Because not controlling a virus by the mechanisms that are known to work will lead to a rise in the number of cases.
So there is no reason to imagine it's anything to do with the EMF exposure.

[alancalverd]

So what if companies are collapsing and unemployment is high. It is a buying opportunity. Buy, buy, buy - and the sheeple follow.

It certainly makes sense to buy low and sell high, so big dips are an opportunity to speculate on the medium term future. But "the professionals" get their commission whether you buy or sell, as long as you do something.

[Bored chemist]

Plenty of it is comparable to double-blind controlled conditions. 

No.
Just; no.

[alancalverd]

Alex Filippenko in the science documentary "The Universe" from PBS said, referring to the double slit experiment, "... when my eyes are closed, it behaves like a wave. But then, at the last second, before it hits the screen I open my eyes and decide to observe it." And the narrator continues: "At that moment, the electrons in essence, become particles."​

Thus proving that he doesn't understand the simplest concept in physics.

[Bored chemist]

There is a book called "The Case for Christ" by Lee Stroebel which deals with the evidence for Christ as if it were a legal matter to prove. He says legally anyone would win a legal case based on the evidence considered admissible.

Yes, he says that.
It may not be true, but he says it anyway.
https://infidels.org/library/modern/jeff_lowder/strobel.html

[Bored chemist]

Alex Filippenko in the science documentary "The Universe" from PBS said, referring to the double slit experiment, "... when my eyes are closed, it behaves like a wave. But then, at the last second, before it hits the screen I open my eyes and decide to observe it." And the narrator continues: "At that moment, the electrons in essence, become particles."​

Thus proving that he doesn't understand the simplest concept in physics.

The "he" you refer to being the narrator- or their scriptwriter.
Also, if you think that particle wave duality is "the simplest concept in physics", you have missed some bits

Were you just not trying to be right here?

[alancalverd]

The simplest concept is that physics is the business of constructing mathematical models of observed phenomena.

The electron doesn't change from being a wave to a particle just because  someone is looking at it (how does it know?), but the behaviour of an electron requires two distinct mathematical models.

And if you were a pedant, you would probably point out the oxymoron "in essence, become….". Essence is by definition invariable. 

[alancalverd]

There is a book called "The Case for Christ" by Lee Stroebel which deals with the evidence for Christ as if it were a legal matter to prove. He says legally anyone would win a legal case based on the evidence considered admissible.

Yes, he says that.
It may not be true, but he says it anyway.
https://infidels.org/library/modern/jeff_lowder/strobel.html

The one thing you can say with certainty is that half the people in a courtroom are lying. It is the job of the judge and jury to decide which. And a lot depends on presentation, not facts: "He who defends himself has a fool for a client".

[duffyd]

There is a book called "The Case for Christ" by Lee Stroebel which deals with the evidence for Christ as if it were a legal matter to prove. He says legally anyone would win a legal case based on the evidence considered admissible

[duffyd]

Evidence. Three types. Scientific, legal and anecdotal. Let us take hydroxyquinone against Covid-19

At the moment science says it does not know. Anecdotes say it seems to work.

There is a book called "The Case for Christ" by Lee Stroebel which deals with the evidence for Christ as if it were a legal matter to prove. He says legally anyone would win a legal case based on the evidence considered admissible.

Bruce Metzger, considered the greatest textual critic of the 20th century said the most confirmed piece of ancient history is that the apostles were certain Christ rose from the dead.

[Bored chemist]

considered the greatest textual critic of the 20th century

By whom

confirmed piece of ancient history is that the apostles were certain Christ rose from the dead.

That seems unlikely.
Is it, for example, as well confirmed as the fact that Nero was an emperor?
To tick that box it would need to be stamped onto all the coins of the era.
Is the Apostles' opinion really that well confirmed?


Even if it was; so what?
The question isn't about their belief, but about the fact.
And even if (this is now piling three levels of "what if" on top of eachother) he lived on after the crucifixion, couldn't it just be that the Romans botched an execution?

But seriously, did you actually believe the bit about " the most confirmed piece of ancient history "?
Because if you did, it just shows a lack of clear thinking.