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« Reply #150 on: 02/12/2007 17:28:36 »
THE LAST TIME I CHECKED, MR. NEIL, HARROD'S WAS IN LONDON !
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« Reply #151 on: 02/12/2007 18:31:49 »
THE LAST TIME I CHECKED, MR. NEIL, HARROD'S WAS IN LONDON !


Yes sir....But last time I checked MY piccy was of Piccadilly Circus...NoT Harrods !!...LOL !!!!
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« Reply #152 on: 02/12/2007 18:33:40 »
....Though...I can see how ewe can misconstrue the structure in the background (In MY piccy)....as Harrods....it does look akin to in !!
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« Reply #153 on: 02/12/2007 19:18:49 »
LOL!

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« Reply #154 on: 03/12/2007 02:36:39 »
....Though...I can see how ewe can misconstrue the structure in the background (In MY piccy)....as Harrods....it does look akin to in !!

Carping little monster! He'd quibble about the price of herring with a turbot!
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« Reply #155 on: 04/12/2007 23:58:41 »
Ok...we should return this thread to Mr BASS now !!

Au contraire!  The whole idea of this thread is for people to post pictures of their favorite places for everyone to enjoy.
This one's closer to home for you tea sippers on the east side of the pond:



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« Reply #156 on: 05/12/2007 16:08:05 »
Pretty!

But not Switzerland.

Mountains are too round.

 [;D]


Hmmmm - I hope we have not Scotts on board else I  might be in trouble now

looks... erm.... highlandish?




ps: harrods / piccadilly circus - no sweat, just a little difference in postcode SW3 vs SW1  [;D]


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« Reply #157 on: 05/12/2007 18:14:58 »
Pretty!

But not Switzerland.

Mountains are too round.

 [;D]
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Hmmmm - I hope we have not Scotts on board else I  might be in trouble now

looks... erm.... highlandish?

Nope.  And my scottish ancestry takes no offense [>:(]
Located in a national park and the bottom of the lake is below sea level.
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« Reply #158 on: 05/12/2007 20:03:23 »
Gosh - I've really been on a whild goose chase around google and Wiki just now and can't make heads and tails...

meaning I can't find something that would match those pics, and I've been around the world a few times already.



Bass, you really need to contribute to List of places on land with elevations below sea level  [;D]




peace offering to scotting ancestors  [;D]



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« Reply #159 on: 06/12/2007 22:50:05 »


peace offering to scotting ancestors  [;D]

What?  No haggis??!!

I'll not be wearing my sporran then.

As to the lake:
Note that the bottom of the lake is below sea level, not the surface.  (Hint, this may be a deep lake)
English (at least your version of it) is the official language.
It is rumored that a mythical creature lives in a garden surrounded by a white picket fence (No, it's not Neil), on the bottom of the lake.  But, then again, who believes rumors??
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« Reply #160 on: 07/12/2007 12:17:00 »

This really has me vexed now..... grrrrrr LOL

And sorry, NO haggis - under NO circumstances haggis, absolutely *never* in your life haggis

shudder   !!!


You said no to highlands so Scottish loch-monsters are out I guess. Too bad really,  those 'mountains' just really do have a highlandish feel for me.

What does that leave us with?

Ireland: Lough Keane, Lough Ree, Lough Muck
United Kingdom: Bala Lake (Wales), Bassenthwaite Lake (England) - Eachy , Windermere (England) - Eachy

but none of them qualify as below sealevel... I think......



Gimme another hint!



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« Reply #161 on: 07/12/2007 22:05:46 »
More hints?  More hints?  You must live with gnomes if you haven't figured this out yet:

Surrounded by some of the highest peaks in the country, including the highest peak.
With its crystal clear waters, a popular dive spot.
The deepest lake in the country, so must contain vast water.

Don't think I can spell it out much more clearly!
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« Reply #162 on: 08/12/2007 11:28:56 »
Yes, you're absolutely right. I do live with gnomes, two big ones to be precise and a small army of gremlins too....




As is very evident, there is yet a lot I have to learn about my fourth adopted country.  [::)] [;D]



You see, when you talk of 'below sea level' and 'deep' I think REALLY DEEP e.g. 1500m Gulf of Aqaba, 372m of Lago Maggiore or at the very least 214m of Lake Lucern in who's waters I first learnt to dible and dive....but then none of those even remotely match the piccie...it had that 'highlandish' feel to it.... or much more 'lowlandish' as things turn out....

79m is... well... erm.... the DEEPEST LAKE in England  [;D]: Wast Water or Wastwater in the Lake District.

National Park of course and yes, well, I'm sure that it does attract some divers; the very serious kind no doubt that love thick wetsuits or the much more sensible dry suits, *OR* if you're into Arctic charof course, then there's literally NO place like it.


WASTWATER (name of the lake and it's valley) is one of the finest examples of a glacially 'over-deepened' valley. The surface of the lake is about 200 feet above sea level, while its bottom is over 50 feet below sea level.

So, the 'below sea level' is covered too. It is really gratifying to finally find the right page 
Even the gnomes are covered. T'was no use me looking for 'mosters' ~ gotta be more precise 

According to an article dated 14 February 2005 on the BBC News website, Underwater gnome threat 'returns', a "gnome garden" complete with picket fence was removed from the bottom of Wastwater after several divers died a few years ago. It is thought the divers spent too much time too deep searching for the ornaments. Police divers report there is a rumour that the garden has returned at a depth beyond which they are allowed. PC Kenny McMahon, a member of the North West Police Underwater Search Unit, said "Wastwater is quite clear at the bottom, but there's nothing to see. At a depth of about 48m, divers had taken gnomes down and put a picket fence around them. But several years ago there were a number of fatalities and the Lake District National Park Authority asked us to get rid of them. We went down there, put them in bags and removed the lot. But now there's a rumour about a new garden beyond the 50m depth limit. As police divers we can't legally dive any deeper so, if it exists, the new garden could have been purposefully put out of our reach."

Someone tell those police divers to go for TRIMIX  [;D]


Now DO explain glacially 'over-deepened' valley to a non-initiate please

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« Reply #163 on: 09/12/2007 04:36:47 »
Glacially 'Over-Deepened' Valley

Once there was a valley. It was sort of "V" shaped and angular in nature. Then along came a big old mean glacier with all of this humongous great force pushing it along. Anything that got in it's way got pushed aside. And the weight of the glacier dug up what was underneath and in front of it.

Below is a very evident glacially over-deepened valley, Yosemite Valley in The Sierra Nevada Mountains of California.



Note the "U" shape. This is a classical indication that a glacier has passed through it, altering the sides and deepening the valley.

This is even more strikingly seen in the picture below of Bridal Veil Falls In Yosemite Valley, below.



Here the glacier has cut the side of the valley so that there is left a "hanging Valley" whose mouth is hig above the valley floor into which it once flowed without interruption.

And, m'dear, Switzerland is full of these things. Vierwaldstättersee is a glacially over-deepened lake.

And to think - you had no idea!

BUT ...... The highest peak in the UK is Ben Nevis in Scotland. Wastwater is in the Lake District of England.

Bass needs to clarify his hints but I have a feeling you are right, A.
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« Reply #164 on: 09/12/2007 15:57:38 »
Wow Jim Bob Awesome pictures! Very cool!

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« Reply #165 on: 09/12/2007 20:21:07 »
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And, m'dear, Switzerland is full of these things. Vierwaldstättersee is a glacially over-deepened lake.
And to think - you had no idea!

Well, you find me at a distict disadvantage you see, one of language.
Yes I grew up next to Lake Lucern (or Vierwaldstättersee - 100 points for you there and two extra for the Umlaut)and even learnt about the history and little of the geology, but, that was ... erm... let's see 30 odd years ago AND in German so the term 'over-deepened lake' does unfortunatly not mean much, hence my question.

Thanks for taking the time and effort for not only explaining it so well, but also illustrating it.

Now I can appreciate the valley of 'Les Deux Alpes' where we go skiing quite often with new eyes.


... and I sincerely hope I'm not committing another geological blunder here  [;D]


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« Reply #166 on: 09/12/2007 23:45:19 »
Wastwater it is!  Alandriel earns the gold star.

 
BUT ...... The highest peak in the UK is Ben Nevis in Scotland. Wastwater is in the Lake District of England.

Bass needs to clarify his hints but I have a feeling you are right, A.

BUT..... JimBob needs to pay closer attention.  Wastwater is located in England- and the highest peak in England is Scafell Pike, which is located in the Lake District above Wastwater.  Since when did a true Scotsman speak "official" English?
***Grumble....mumble...nit-pick...grumble****
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« Reply #167 on: 10/12/2007 14:23:45 »
pins gold star to scarf


Thank you!  [;D]
Does that mean I can have another go now then?

Excellent!   [8D]



Looks freaky I know.... Guess where it is and even better, tell me how this came to be.
To me it always looked as if a bunch of giants had gone on a treasure hunt

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« Reply #168 on: 10/12/2007 14:49:45 »
Wastwater it is!  Alandriel earns the gold star.

 
BUT ...... The highest peak in the UK is Ben Nevis in Scotland. Wastwater is in the Lake District of England.

Bass needs to clarify his hints but I have a feeling you are right, A.

BUT..... JimBob needs to pay closer attention.  Wastwater is located in England- and the highest peak in England is Scafell Pike, which is located in the Lake District above Wastwater.  Since when did a true Scotsman speak "official" English?
***Grumble....mumble...nit-pick...grumble****

Look you old coot, I said the highest mountain in the UK, not England And the last time I checked, No matter how screwed up and non-understandable the version is, English is STILL the "official" language of the Scots. Or are your ancestors, still fighting for Robert the Bruce????????

Nit pick ! my rosy red arse ! - you just need to be more specific. Flailing words around like a dull claidheamh mòr - really!!! ( to himself JimBob says "I guess that is what he gets with his Haggis eating ancestry. never were real smart - comes with eating intestines - now we Welsh on the other hand ........."

I am going to go make some money - You going to sit in the house piling children on the fire to keep warm up there? Looks to be about 20° F (-6 C) and it is a balmy  41° F (5 C) here.

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« Reply #169 on: 10/12/2007 16:30:25 »
JimBob said the highest mountain in the UK is is Ben Nevis (in Scotland, part of the UK)

You're right


Bass said the highest mountain in England is Scafell Pike in the Lake District

you're right too


you're both right *AND* YOU BOTH NEED GLASSES !   [;D]


and I need mittens - it IS rather chilly here.



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« Reply #170 on: 10/12/2007 19:35:00 »
Look you old coot....

My,my, a bit testy are we JimBob?  [:0] Sounds quite like the curmudgeon calling the old coot black?


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Or are your ancestors, still fighting for Robert the Bruce????????

Being part Scots, part German (and several parts who knows?), makes for one stubborn cuss.  Add in my deep south heritage- "Ferget? Hell!"  (So we southern gentlemen procalaim when asked about the Civil War- or any other long-ago lost battles that besmirch our honor).

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Looks to be about 20° F (-6 C) and it is a balmy  41° F (5 C) here.

Ah, but the cold was much better for that 2 feet (60 cm) of light powder on the slopes yesterday!
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« Reply #171 on: 10/12/2007 20:05:02 »
Unbelievable photo, Alandriel. 

A wild guess- those are remnants of sand dunes, perhaps somewhere along the Nile River?  Maybe too many palm trees for most of the Nile?

Closest thing I've seen to similar hills is the Nebraska Sand Hills (minus, of course, the tropical vegetation)
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« Reply #172 on: 11/12/2007 09:51:30 »
A wild guess- those are remnants of sand dunes, perhaps somewhere along the Nile River?  Maybe too many palm trees for most of the Nile?


Nope. Sorry - too wild a guess that. [;D]

Vegetation on that pic is too tropical for the Nile. As you said: too many palm trees (density that is) plus you'd see expanses of nothing but sand close by if it were anywhere along the Nile.


Hint: 1,268 perfectly cone-shaped hills of about the same size, spread over an area of more than 50 square kilometers. They are covered in green grass that turns brown during the dry season







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« Reply #173 on: 11/12/2007 18:35:06 »
My second guess, then, would be southeast asia.  If so, the hills would be erosional remnants, probably of limestone (old reefs?).
I remember seeing "beehive" hills in northern Australia- if I can just find that file...

There it is, under about 20 years of more recent research.  Pumululu, sandstone hills caused by erosion of thin sandstone that left hundreds of "beehive shaped hills" in the Bungle Bungle Range.  We flew over them several times in helicopters- I think they were fairly inaccessable otherwise.  Course, that was over 25 years ago.

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The climate is way too wet in your photo for the hills to be sandstone- so probably limestone.  I'll have to do a bit more searching to find the answer.
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« Reply #174 on: 11/12/2007 19:02:23 »
As JimBob so eloquently points out, I'm not the sharpest stick in the bundle...

...never were real smart...

Your hint made this too simple.  Finally googled "1268 hills" and found several thousand hits on the Chocolate Hills in Bohol.

DOH! 

Looks like a beautiful place- have you ever visited?

From what I could gather, the hills are composed of limestone- likely old reef deposits, that eroded from rainwaters to form the conical shaped hills.  Interesting that there is no karst formation (caves) in the area.  Will try to find more research on their formation.

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« Reply #175 on: 12/12/2007 22:01:15 »
Meanwhile, here's another....


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« Reply #176 on: 13/12/2007 01:41:15 »
Is it the Drake Passage through the Horn?

Or just a plain of fi-jord?
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« Reply #177 on: 13/12/2007 01:57:39 »
Glacier NP Montana, USA

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« Reply #178 on: 13/12/2007 04:35:03 »
Not Drake Passage, and while it is a fjord, obviously not so plain.
Quite a distance from Montana.

JimBob, this feature is named after a location in Wales, so should be a snap with your ancestry.

Over 9 miles in length with towering peaks grazing the sky.  Also one of the wettest places, in terms of precipitation, on earth.  Made famous by Rudyard Kipling.
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« Reply #179 on: 14/12/2007 02:16:38 »
After working since 6 AM and doing a little tidying up around here this P< I am too tired to google "the works of Rudyard Kipling" and do anything else. Please someone pick up this sputtering tourch from my failing hand? Please!

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« Reply #180 on: 14/12/2007 09:59:18 »
catches torch and promptly burns her fingers.....


ayyyyyyyyyyyy...... sorry, no idea... but my goodness IT IS GORGEOUS !!!!



Your hint made this too simple.  Finally googled "1268 hills" and found several thousand hits on the Chocolate Hills in Bohol.
DOH! 
Looks like a beautiful place- have you ever visited?
From what I could gather, the hills are composed of limestone- likely old reef deposits, that eroded from rainwaters to form the conical shaped hills.  Interesting that there is no karst formation (caves) in the area.  Will try to find more research on their formation.

Nope - sadly I have not seen them myself but it's firmly on my list of 100 places to visit before I die. Would love to hear more about how they possible came about so if you do find out a bit more do let me know.  [:)]

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« Reply #181 on: 15/12/2007 18:24:58 »
Location of middle earth
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« Reply #182 on: 16/12/2007 19:41:24 »
Captain Courageous was too long ago - New Zealand on the South Isle - BUT - Middle Earth did it - Milford Sound.
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« Reply #183 on: 17/12/2007 21:15:56 »
Didn't know how many on this forum would remember Captain Courageous??  Milford Sound it is.

Milford Sound is a fjord.  "Fjord:A glaciated valley flooded by the sea to form a long, narrow, steep-walled inlet".  During ice ages, ocean levels drop and glaciers can erode valleys below present day sea levels.  As the glaciers melt and sea levels rise, these glacial valleys are flooded, producing some of the most spectacular scenery on earth.
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« Reply #184 on: 12/01/2008 06:03:49 »
Hope I'm not butting in here.. I took these pics sometime ago while traveling around.. they may or may not be interesting (I thought they were)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/15359632@N04/2186298215/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/15359632@N04/2187081208/


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« Reply #185 on: 12/01/2008 06:10:36 »
oh wait, I have to figure out the picture thing.




.. ok well I am stoopid.. I can't upload them because they are too big and I can't figure out how to HTML them.. so they remain clickable links (I hope) :)
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« Reply #186 on: 13/01/2008 00:49:49 »
my skills have killed the thread..   [:I]

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« Reply #187 on: 13/01/2008 00:58:14 »
Check Your PMS JnA.

These links should have more to them.. should end in JPG OR GIF

Like this:

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/15359632@N04/2187081208/xxxxxGIF

Try again and put them between these imaging brackets:  Hit the square box above the fist

smiley.. that is imaging bracuts, then copy your link and paste it between those

bracuts.. do this with both separate links!

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« Reply #188 on: 13/01/2008 03:48:09 »




Thanks Karen.

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« Reply #189 on: 13/01/2008 03:50:38 »
Great Job Your welcome!  YAYYYYYYYYY! Glad you figured it out!

By The way Nice pics where were they taken?
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« Reply #190 on: 13/01/2008 05:04:04 »
JnA

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These don't look natural. Are they?

If they are they are jointing features - the result of fracturing of the rocks. But square jointing such as this is very rare.

And, like Karen, I'd like to know where were the pictures were take.
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« Reply #191 on: 13/01/2008 05:14:17 »
Looks like the giants causeway.

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« Reply #192 on: 13/01/2008 09:06:42 »
Hi JimBob

yes, they are natural, at least that is what the sign at the location said.

"The fractures are in three sets, one set runs almost north, another east north east, and a third discontinuous set north north west. These last two sets produce the tiled appearance. The flatness of the pavement is due to initial erosion by waves carrying sand and gravel and nearer to the cliff, to chemical action by sea water. The rocks which absorb sea water during high tide dry out during low tide causing salt crystals to grow and disintegrate the rocks - a process which produces shallow basins'."


 The placard notes that the information has been provided by the Geology Department of the University of Tasmania.

So that gives away the location :)

On the way to the old penal colony of Port Arthur is a place called Eaglehawk Neck. These tessellations can be found there.

Interesting aren't they?

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« Reply #193 on: 14/01/2008 18:12:14 »
Is it on the coral reef? An impact crater..

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« Reply #194 on: 14/01/2008 21:01:06 »
Awesome jointing.  As my erstwhile colleage pointed out, square jointing is rare- much more common to see jointing at 60° and 120°.
Thanks for sharing the photos.
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« Reply #195 on: 15/01/2008 03:25:40 »
Gee Bass, If you know about the 60° and 120° sets, perhaps you could venture a suggestion about the question of the week, HUH?

Yes JnA, these are indeed rare and very interesting to see. Once Bass, or even a geology student (it's simple stuff Bass) answers the "question of the week" all will become clear as to why apparently square jointing is so rare.
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« Reply #196 on: 15/01/2008 05:17:31 »
WHOA!  Someone seems to have there panties tied in knots [;)]

Sorry JB, for not getting around to all these posts earlier- besides being feeble-minded, I just spent the past 4 days at my "other" job, teaching powder lessons to skiers at our local ski area.  We've had close to 4 feet of prime, light powder over the past week- so when opportunity knocks...

Will answer QOTW asap.
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« Reply #197 on: 15/01/2008 20:00:58 »
We must keep up appearances you know. There are certain standards we of the Illuminati must keep up or they will consider us as extraneous. It is a matter of class, you know. And you know how superior these Brits feel themselves. I am sure you understand.
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« Reply #198 on: 30/01/2008 16:56:12 »
c00l photos JnA. Thanks for sharing  [:)]



... and...?... so..? ... come on....


Why is square jointing so rare?

I'm dying of curiosity here and yes, I've checked the Qotw and no, I have not found what I supposedly should have found, e.g. an answer to this burning questions of why?

And no, I'm not British - so there!  [:P]



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« Reply #199 on: 03/02/2008 01:29:38 »
will try to explain this better when I have more time- but the basic answer is that joints (or fractures) develop in response to strain in the rock.  Imagine taking a circle and squishing it from one side (that is, adding strain).  The circle beomes an ellipse.  Fracture sets develop at an angle to maximum shortening (the short axis of the ellipse) and are rotated due to elongation with more strain.

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I'm leaving for another extended bit of employment, but will try to get back to this as soon as possible.
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