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Unobserved(stateless/unphysical) Quantum Waves + State(physical) = Spacetime(GR)
« on: 22/09/2019 17:36:22 »
Unobserved waves are unphysical, but ones with state change experience duality and get spacetime involved. Observation doesn't always mean Quantum Observation. What matters is if a state change happens. State is a binary physicality variable. I'm now questioning if it's even necessary to declare observation is involved in the double slit. It's accepted that observation means measurement ..but all the experiment cares about is a waves state change while its moving (and is allowed to continue moving). Observation would just be something that occurred after the experiment was over. It didn't influence the outcome.  A wave would never reach something able to change its state ..unless there were two instances of state changes in its path (which-way eraser).

I found a new quantum trick the unobservable is able to achieve. While a new wave formulates, it is able to know if its state will change during its journey ..before it even starts to move. The unobservable is all time, all the time for a physicality variables. Unobserved quantum waves not having spacetime is a very big deal. Without time from spacetime, its life is instantaneous. The delayed choice quantum eraser demonstrates this. The only way the first entangled particle knows if the partner will ever be observed is if the state is known for the life of both entangled particles.

Is quantum which-way information the real cause?
Which-way has nothing to do with it. The final panel is wave collapse and doesn't effect the outcome like a state change does.I figured out what is happening in an experiment that is "erasing" the "which-way" (with a polarizer). A Double slit with opposite polarizers ..and then an extra polarizer down the line acting as a "eraser";
State (physicality) of a particle is decided while it's being created. State changes are detected preemptively. When two detectors are in its path, its state would be changing twice. In this case, the particle is sent as an unobserved wave. What we are witnessing is what happens when a quantum wave actually goes through double slits and do not interact with polarizers. Proving that a polarizer only effects physical photon light because a single state change would have sent a physical photon at the double slits to go through a single slit.

I asked the forbidden question in physics and found a bridge to reality.or should I say it's a bridge to the simulation? Spacetime may be an analog simulation built on the quantum field. It doesn't make any sense for light to have a speed limit. Spacetime must have a frame rate. If Spacetime is a simulation, State is the object being added to the program. Perhaps the frame rate is based off the speed something can be observed. Somewhere around 0.3 μm (micrometers) naturally gives a object a physical state. This is the distance light can travel in a femtosecond. This would mean spacetime has a frame rate of 1,000,000,000,000,000 frames per second. Don't bring up Planck, it isn't the size that determines if something is automatically physical.

The Higgs Field is nothing special. It's just another field in the Quantum Field that interacts with Spacetime when the object needs to be physical.
Black holes spaghettify matter and turn its physicality state off. Dark matter is matter that doesn't have the ability to have a physical state.Black holes are not deleting information, it's just making it unobservable. The holographic principle sounded like a long shot anyways.
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Unobservedstateless/unphysical Quantum Waves Statephysical SpacetimeGR
« Reply #1 on: 22/09/2019 18:37:20 »
Can any Canadian here help me to know whether University of Waterloojoined with Institute of Quantum computing admits students during Spring and winter session for PHD program in Quantum information/Physics?
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Re: Unobserved(stateless/unphysical) Quantum Waves + State(physical) = Spacetime(GR)
« Reply #2 on: 22/09/2019 19:46:56 »
Quote from: scifimath on 22/09/2019 17:36:22
Somewhere around 0.3 μm (micrometers) naturally gives a object a physical state.
Nonsense, you can be killed by things that are smaller than that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parvovirus#Examples_of_parvoviruses
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Re: Unobserved(stateless/unphysical) Quantum Waves + State(physical) = Spacetime(GR)
« Reply #3 on: 22/09/2019 19:56:20 »
I'm not 100% on the exact size, I just know there is one. That said, there isn't anything preventing a virus to kill when it has a state of physicality.
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Re: Unobserved(stateless/unphysical) Quantum Waves + State(physical) = Spacetime(GR)
« Reply #4 on: 22/09/2019 21:38:50 »
Quote from: scifimath on 22/09/2019 19:56:20
a state of physicality.
You use that word a lot.
What do you think it means?
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Re: Unobserved(stateless/unphysical) Quantum Waves + State(physical) = Spacetime(GR)
« Reply #5 on: 22/09/2019 21:47:47 »
Unobserved quantum waves are not real world physical. They do have physical properties as variables though.
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Re: Unobserved(stateless/unphysical) Quantum Waves + State(physical) = Spacetime(GR)
« Reply #6 on: 22/09/2019 21:52:34 »
Quote from: scifimath on 22/09/2019 21:47:47
Unobserved quantum waves are not real world physical
And again, what do you mean by these?
" real world physical"
"Unobserved quantum waves"

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Re: Unobserved(stateless/unphysical) Quantum Waves + State(physical) = Spacetime(GR)
« Reply #7 on: 22/09/2019 21:53:54 »
Quote from: scifimath on 22/09/2019 19:56:20
That said, there isn't anything preventing a virus to kill when it has a state of physicality.
You said it was too small to have one.
And you still haven't said what that state is.
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Re: Unobserved(stateless/unphysical) Quantum Waves + State(physical) = Spacetime(GR)
« Reply #8 on: 22/09/2019 21:54:22 »
Quote from: scifimath on 22/09/2019 19:56:20
I'm not 100% on the exact size, I just know there is one.
Why?
Faith?
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Re: Unobserved(stateless/unphysical) Quantum Waves + State(physical) = Spacetime(GR)
« Reply #9 on: 22/09/2019 21:57:55 »
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Quote from: scifimath on 22/09/2019 21:47:47
Unobserved quantum waves are not real world physical
And again, what do you mean by these?
" real world physical"
"Unobserved quantum waves"

Not sure why you are playing dumb here.
Physical means it has structure or depth.
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Re: Unobserved(stateless/unphysical) Quantum Waves + State(physical) = Spacetime(GR)
« Reply #10 on: 22/09/2019 22:00:54 »
So, music, which has structure and depth is physical.
Electrons which, as far as we know, have no structure or depth are not physical.

It isn't that I am being  dumb.
It's that  you can't do science unless you have very careful definitions of words, and you don't have a clear enough understanding of what you are talking about. If you had, you could tell  me what the words mean.
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Re: Unobserved(stateless/unphysical) Quantum Waves + State(physical) = Spacetime(GR)
« Reply #11 on: 22/09/2019 22:31:06 »
I know there is a certain size because a baseball has never gone into superposition.
An electron with a physical state would be like light that is a photon.
A virus usually isn't in an environment that allows it be unobserved.
Music is a mechanical wave, maybe the air gets physical states.
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Re: Unobserved(stateless/unphysical) Quantum Waves + State(physical) = Spacetime(GR)
« Reply #12 on: 22/09/2019 22:44:12 »
So this is sci fi math then. Fictitious?
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Re: Unobserved(stateless/unphysical) Quantum Waves + State(physical) = Spacetime(GR)
« Reply #13 on: 22/09/2019 23:10:26 »
Quote from: scifimath on 22/09/2019 22:31:06
I know there is a certain size because a baseball has never gone into superposition.
How do you know that?

Quote from: scifimath on 22/09/2019 22:31:06
An electron with a physical state would be like light that is a photon.
This doesn’t make sense. An electron beam is a very physical thing, but behaves like a wave.

Quote from: scifimath on 22/09/2019 22:31:06
A virus usually isn't in an environment that allows it be unobserved.
So how often have you observed one?
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Re: Unobserved(stateless/unphysical) Quantum Waves + State(physical) = Spacetime(GR)
« Reply #14 on: 22/09/2019 23:16:13 »
Quote from: Colin2B on 22/09/2019 23:10:26
Quote from: scifimath on 22/09/2019 22:31:06
I know there is a certain size because a baseball has never gone into superposition.
How do you know that?
that's comical

Quote from: Colin2B on 22/09/2019 23:10:26
Quote from: scifimath on 22/09/2019 22:31:06
An electron with a physical state would be like light that is a photon.
This doesn’t make sense. An electron beam is a very physical thing, but behaves like a wave.
Duality is allowed in my theory.

Quote from: Colin2B on 22/09/2019 23:10:26
Quote from: scifimath on 22/09/2019 22:31:06
A virus usually isn't in an environment that allows it be unobserved.
So how often have you observed one?
You would need a vacuum to get it to be a matter wave.
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Re: Unobserved(stateless/unphysical) Quantum Waves + State(physical) = Spacetime(GR)
« Reply #15 on: 23/09/2019 08:29:43 »
Quote from: scifimath on 22/09/2019 23:16:13
that's comical
Not really. You made a statement, I’m asking how you know.

Quote from: scifimath on 22/09/2019 22:31:06
Duality is allowed in my theory.
Doesn’t help you, both particles and waves are very physical.

Quote from: scifimath on 22/09/2019 22:31:06
You would need a vacuum to get it to be a matter wave.
That doesn’t make sense. Are you saying that viruses change form in a vacuum? Nothing suggests that vacuum is involved in any state changes at quantum level, nor that viruses are quantum objects.

This is clearly a New Theory and my feeling is you don’t know enough to discuss this sensibility.
So I’m out.
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Re: Unobserved(stateless/unphysical) Quantum Waves + State(physical) = Spacetime(GR)
« Reply #16 on: 23/09/2019 14:39:43 »
Quote from: Colin2B on 23/09/2019 08:29:43

Quote from: scifimath on 22/09/2019 22:31:06
Duality is allowed in my theory.
Doesn’t help you, both particles and waves are very physical.

It most certainly does. Unobserved waves are not physical. You have zero proof that they are. They contain the necessary info if it needs to become physical.. but it is not real world physical.

Quote from: Colin2B on 23/09/2019 08:29:43
Quote from: scifimath on 22/09/2019 22:31:06
You would need a vacuum to get it to be a matter wave.
That doesn’t make sense. Are you saying that viruses change form in a vacuum? Nothing suggests that vacuum is involved in any state changes at quantum level, nor that viruses are quantum objects.

This is clearly a New Theory and my feeling is you don’t know enough to discuss this sensibility.
So I’m out.

I'm saying what is required to make something unobserved.

And yes, please don't come back with your antiquated ideas.
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Re: Unobserved(stateless/unphysical) Quantum Waves + State(physical) = Spacetime(GR)
« Reply #17 on: 23/09/2019 19:09:32 »
Quote from: scifimath on 23/09/2019 14:39:43
And yes, please don't come back with you antiquated ideas.
I realise that common sense is an antiquated idea, but it's still very helpful.

We are still waiting for you to explain how you know that " a baseball has never gone into superposition."

Are you saying that you don't understand how it might do so?
That would seem consistent with the other ignorant things you say.
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Re: Unobserved(stateless/unphysical) Quantum Waves + State(physical) = Spacetime(GR)
« Reply #18 on: 23/09/2019 19:10:28 »
Quote from: scifimath on 23/09/2019 14:39:43
I'm saying what is required to make something unobserved.
You are failing to say anything.
What you are doing is stringing together words in ways that make no sense (or are trivially false)
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Re: Unobserved(stateless/unphysical) Quantum Waves + State(physical) = Spacetime(GR)
« Reply #19 on: 23/09/2019 19:12:13 »
Quote from: scifimath on 23/09/2019 14:39:43
I'm saying what is required to make something unobserved.
You are failing to say anything.
What you are doing is stringing together words in ways hat make no sense (or are trivially false)
Quote from: scifimath on 23/09/2019 14:39:43
Unobserved waves are not physical.
You are repeatedly failing to to tell us what you think "not physical" means.
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