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The unique normal force on human body: a massive human can stand on weak toes
« on: 25/01/2020 15:55:02 »
The human massive body is able to stand on weak feet toes, also there will be slight pressure on soles  and toes  .
A person can lift himself with small force https://vixra.org/abs/2001.0310 he pushes the ground with this small force the ground will push him with the same small force , the two forces small force by pushing the ground and the small force ground exert upwards, will result in small pressure on feet and toes

Human body mass can be determined by comparing the body with another mass in scale" nothing new here ".The gravity of the human body is its mass times acceleration " nothing change here "
When a human body stands on a horizontal zero degree inclination surface. The gravity force of body on a surface is far greater than the normal force by the surface upwards . The  normal force of any object " but not a human  " is always equals to its weight " on a zero degree inclination surface.

The gravity force of body appears in a spring on scale by compressing it which shows body mass times acceleration" nothing new". But the force upwards appears on the phenomenon of massive human body standing on weak feet toes
 
The pressure on toes or soles is as a result of two  forces , one is the normal force of ground upwards and the other is force downwards  "weight " the normal force upwards  is always far less than weight so pressure on soles is very small.

The values : weight and normal force upwards related to each other mathematically .The massive the body is the force upwards "normal force " and the force downwards “ weight “ are big
The phenomenon  related only to gravity on a human body that is the toes won't bear for instance   "equivalent to human body "  80 kg mass  put on it it.That will press the toes extremely hard.
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Re: How does a massive human body stand on feet weak toes ?
« Reply #1 on: 25/01/2020 17:02:56 »
Quote from: Yahya A.Sharif on 25/01/2020 15:55:02
When a person stands on surface. The gravity force of body on a surface is greater than the normal force by the surface upwards .
So you believe that people sink into surfaces?  I am not sinking into the earth, so your hypothesis has been falsified.
Quote from: Yahya A.Sharif on 25/01/2020 15:55:02
The pressure on toes or soles is as a result of two equals forces , one is the force of ground upwards and the other is force downwrads taken from the weight” this force is always less than weight”
The weight IS the force.  So you are saying the force is less than the force.

Your ideas about physics are simply wrong, sorry.
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Re: How does a massive human body stand on feet weak toes ?
« Reply #2 on: 25/01/2020 17:05:50 »
Bones are stronger than concrete.
If you say that people standing on their toes needs "special physics" then you also say the same about floors bridges etc.

On a weight for weight basis tendons are stronger than steel.

There's nothing to explain.
The body works by simple physics.
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Re: How does a massive human body stand on feet weak toes ?
« Reply #3 on: 25/01/2020 19:09:28 »
Come back when you have some math to support your claims.

Speaking of which, this belongs in "New Theories", since you are making claims that go against known physics.
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Re: How does a massive human body stand on feet weak toes ?
« Reply #4 on: 25/01/2020 23:39:30 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 25/01/2020 19:09:28
Come back when you have some math to support your claims.
You might be confused by the repeated paragraphs.I edited it.I mentioned that the forces are related to each other mathematically  , which implies simple proportionality.
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Re: How does a massive human body stand on feet weak toes ?
« Reply #5 on: 26/01/2020 00:23:26 »
Quote from: Yahya A.Sharif on 25/01/2020 23:39:30
You might be confused by the repeated paragraphs.I edited it.I mentioned that the forces are related to each other mathematically  , which implies simple proportionality.

I'm not confused. I'm waiting for you to supply the math shows that toes can't bear the weight of the body.
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Re: How does a massive human body stand on feet weak toes ?
« Reply #6 on: 26/01/2020 07:09:40 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 26/01/2020 00:23:26
I'm waiting for you to supply the math shows that toes can't bear the weight of the body.
There is no mathematics for this exact part.It is biological that this phenomenon appears only to humans.It is like physiologically human body stop working after death .
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Re: How does a massive human body stand on feet weak toes ?
« Reply #7 on: 26/01/2020 08:17:10 »
Quote from: Yahya A.Sharif on 26/01/2020 07:09:40
Quote from: Kryptid on 26/01/2020 00:23:26
I'm waiting for you to supply the math shows that toes can't bear the weight of the body.
There is no mathematics for this exact part.It is biological that this phenomenon appears only to humans.It is like physiologically human body stop working after death .
Yet it was you who stated that forces are related to each other mathematically, which makes you either a liar or an idiot.
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Re: How does a massive human body stand on feet weak toes ?
« Reply #8 on: 26/01/2020 09:19:58 »
Quote from: Yahya A.Sharif on 26/01/2020 07:09:40
It is biological that this phenomenon appears only to humans.
What "phenomenon"?
Do you mean standing up?
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Re: How does a massive human body stand on feet weak toes ?
« Reply #9 on: 26/01/2020 17:10:53 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 25/01/2020 17:05:50
Bones are stronger than concrete.
On a weight for weight basis tendons are stronger than steel.
It is not just about breaking bones or tendons.It is a whole collection of factors. The 80 kg mass will cause huge pain, cutting flesh, breaking  joints, and above all pressing the toes extremely hard.
Compare standing on concrete and putting 80 kg concrete on ones toes.
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Re: How does a massive human body stand on feet weak toes ?
« Reply #10 on: 26/01/2020 17:37:44 »
Quote from: Yahya A.Sharif on 26/01/2020 17:11:46
But this is actually a phenomenon beyond physics.
Are you referring to the fact that you keep posting nonsense?
That's certainly beyond what's normally thought of as physics.
Quote from: Yahya A.Sharif on 26/01/2020 17:10:53
It is not just about breaking bones or tendons.It is a whole collection of factors. The 80 kg mass will cause huge pain, cutting flesh, breaking  joints, and above all pressing the toes extremely hard.
Compare standing on concrete and putting 80 kg concrete on ones toes.
To do that comparison properly, you have to put the 80Kg on the underside of the toes.
And, to do that - without having your weight on your feet, you need something like this
https://www.fitness-superstore.co.uk/powerline-vertical-leg-press.html?gclid=CjwKCAiAjrXxBRAPEiwAiM3DQrBSAdmKH_5N4_o_wf-w1vfX8ryr5KIBf_J6O-dDWZpzO6aI-IEYcxoClZ8QAvD_BwE

At school I could easily lift well over twice my bodyweight that way
Others do rather better.

You seem to think that magic is required.
It isn't.
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Re: How does a massive human body stand on feet weak toes ?
« Reply #11 on: 27/01/2020 05:42:46 »
Quote from: Yahya A.Sharif on 26/01/2020 17:10:53
The 80 kg mass will cause huge pain, cutting flesh, breaking  joints, and above all pressing the toes extremely hard.

Give us some actual evidence that this should happen instead of merely claiming that it should happen.
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Re: How does a massive human body stand on feet weak toes ?
« Reply #12 on: 27/01/2020 07:29:42 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 26/01/2020 17:37:44
https://www.fitness-superstore.co.uk/powerline-vertical-leg-press.html?gclid=CjwKCAiAjrXxBRAPEiwAiM3DQrBSAdmKH_5N4_o_wf-w1vfX8ryr5KIBf_J6O-dDWZpzO6aI-IEYcxoClZ8QAvD_BwE
This is a person lifting by feet balls and wearing shoes.lifting by toes and without shoes will break toes , causing huge pain and feels high pressure .
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Re: How does a massive human body stand on feet weak toes ?
« Reply #13 on: 27/01/2020 09:16:40 »
Quote from: Yahya A.Sharif on 26/01/2020 07:09:40
It is biological that this phenomenon appears only to humans.
And several other bipedal species from Tyrannosaurus to chickens. And all quadruped mammals walk on fewer toes than bipeds.
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Re: How does a massive human body stand on feet weak toes ?
« Reply #14 on: 27/01/2020 10:11:13 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 27/01/2020 09:16:40
Quote from: Yahya A.Sharif on 26/01/2020 07:09:40
It is biological that this phenomenon appears only to humans.
And several other bipedal species from Tyrannosaurus to chickens. And all quadruped mammals walk on fewer toes than bipeds.
Thanks.
I was going to mention that , but humans is a better example.
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Re: How does a massive human body stand on feet weak toes ?
« Reply #15 on: 27/01/2020 12:34:51 »
Quote from: Yahya A.Sharif on 27/01/2020 10:11:13
Quote from: alancalverd on 27/01/2020 09:16:40
Quote from: Yahya A.Sharif on 26/01/2020 07:09:40
It is biological that this phenomenon appears only to humans.
And several other bipedal species from Tyrannosaurus to chickens. And all quadruped mammals walk on fewer toes than bipeds.
Thanks.
I was going to mention that , but humans is a better example.
So why did you state earlier 'It is biological that this phenomenon appears only to humans.'?
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Re: How does a massive human body stand on feet weak toes ?
« Reply #16 on: 27/01/2020 13:10:21 »
Quote from: The Spoon on 27/01/2020 12:34:51
So why did you state earlier 'It is biological that this phenomenon appears only to humans.'?
It looks like he just makes this up as he goes along and forgets what he wrote earlier.  This results in him contradicting himself a lot.
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Re: How does a massive human body stand on feet weak toes ?
« Reply #17 on: 27/01/2020 13:37:22 »
Quote from: Origin on 27/01/2020 13:10:21
Quote from: The Spoon on 27/01/2020 12:34:51
So why did you state earlier 'It is biological that this phenomenon appears only to humans.'?
It looks like he just makes this up as he goes along and forgets what he wrote earlier.  This results in him contradicting himself a lot.
To humans only but not to other masses, and I referred to humans only because it is a better example " everyone can test it"
Quote from: Yahya A.Sharif on 26/01/2020 07:09:40
There is no mathematics for this exact part.It is biological that this phenomenon appears only to humans.It is like physiologically human body stop working after death .
Quote from: Yahya A.Sharif on 25/01/2020 15:55:02
The phenomenon  related only to gravity on a human body that is the toes won't bear for instance   "equivalent to human body "  80 kg mass  put on it it.That will press the toes extremely hard.


« Last Edit: 27/01/2020 14:04:16 by Yahya A.Sharif »
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Re: How does a massive human body stand on feet weak toes ?
« Reply #18 on: 27/01/2020 15:48:02 »
Quote from: Yahya A.Sharif on 27/01/2020 13:37:22
To humans only but not to other masses, and I referred to humans only because it is a better example " everyone can test it"
That makes no sense. Are you just selecting words at random?
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Re: How does a massive human body stand on feet weak toes ?
« Reply #19 on: 27/01/2020 19:05:18 »
Quote from: Yahya A.Sharif on 27/01/2020 07:29:42
Quote from: Bored chemist on 26/01/2020 17:37:44
https://www.fitness-superstore.co.uk/powerline-vertical-leg-press.html?gclid=CjwKCAiAjrXxBRAPEiwAiM3DQrBSAdmKH_5N4_o_wf-w1vfX8ryr5KIBf_J6O-dDWZpzO6aI-IEYcxoClZ8QAvD_BwE
This is a person lifting by feet balls and wearing shoes.lifting by toes and without shoes will break toes , causing huge pain and feels high pressure .
Balls!
Specifically, people standing on"tip toe" are usually actually standing on the balls of the feet.
Ballet dancers stand on the toes, but they have reinforced shoes to support them.

So, as usual, there doesn't seem to be a problem to solve.
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