[Salik Imran]

Yes, they are all deceptions...

[hamdani yusuf]

“One man’s magic is another man’s engineering” — Robert A. Heinlein

[charles1948]

“One man’s magic is another man’s engineering” — Robert A. Heinlein

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" - Arthur C. Clarke

[Bored chemist]

It's been a while since the OP posted anything.
I'm guessing he realises that most of don't accept magic- because it isn't real.

[charles1948]

It's been a while since the OP posted anything.
I'm guessing he realises that most of don't accept magic- because it isn't real.

Isn't "Magic" just Science that we haven't yet developed?   Don't you think that eventually everything that Magic envisaged will come true through Science.  You can see it happening whenever you use your modern  21st century smartphone.

In the 17th century, wouldn't that everyday piece of gadgetry been considered the product of witchcraft - even to Isaac Newton?

[Bored chemist]

Isn't "Magic" just Science that we haven't yet developed? 

No.

[charles1948]

Isn't "Magic" just Science that we haven't yet developed? 

No.

Well, you say that as a chemist.  But  can't physicists and engineers invent more things than chemists can?

[Bored chemist]

Isn't "Magic" just Science that we haven't yet developed? 

No.

Well, you say that as a chemist.  But  can't physicists and engineers invent more things than chemists can?

Are you actually dumb enough to think that matters?

Given time, I could explain my smart phone to Newton, just like I can explain it to a kid.

This "science is the same as magic" idea should be put to bed once and for all.
The difference is that we know how science works.
More importantly, we know that magic does not work. It doesn't matter if you say Abracadabra or wave a silver wand. It doesn't work.
That's the distinction.

[Yahya A.Sharif (OP)]

Looking in magic  as undiscovered science is a waste of time magic is not just a unique phenomenon   that we are going to discover to be added to mainstream physics but is a whole of violations.It is like we are going to figure out the non-science or magic will that be useful ? every kid knows what is non-science , what is the not of water is liquid.
Simply magic can be defined as  the non-science with no rules.

[charles1948]

Isn't "Magic" just Science that we haven't yet developed? 

No.

Well, you say that as a chemist.  But  can't physicists and engineers invent more things than chemists can?

Are you actually dumb enough to think that matters?

Given time, I could explain my smart phone to Newton, just like I can explain it to a kid.

This "science is the same as magic" idea should be put to bed once and for all.
The difference is that we know how science works.
More importantly, we know that magic does not work. It doesn't matter if you say Abracadabra or wave a silver wand. It doesn't work.
That's the distinction.

But, it does work if you wave a hand-set thingy at a Play-Station.  Or say to your smartphone: "Hi Sirri- what 's the weather going to be to-day?"

You reckon Isaac Newton would've understood what you were doing?  Or backed away. muttering: "Witchcraft!"

[Bored chemist]

You reckon Isaac Newton would've understood what you were doing? 

Are you deliberately missing the point?

[Bored chemist]

Looking in magic  as undiscovered science is a waste of time magic is not just a unique phenomenon   that we are going to discover to be added to mainstream physics but is a whole of violations.It is like we are going to figure out the non-science or magic will that be useful ? every kid knows what is non-science , what is the not of water is liquid.
Simply magic can be defined as  the non-science with no rules.

No.
Magic is not real.

[Yahya A.Sharif (OP)]

Looking in magic  as undiscovered science is a waste of time magic is not just a unique phenomenon   that we are going to discover to be added to mainstream physics but is a whole of violations.It is like we are going to figure out the non-science or magic will that be useful ? every kid knows what is non-science , what is the not of water is liquid.
Simply magic can be defined as  the non-science with no rules.

No.
Magic is not real.

If science describes reality then magic describes non-reality.

[Kryptid]

If science describes reality then magic describes non-reality.

So then what was the point of this thread?

[hamdani yusuf]

Magic is deliberately engineered to mislead its audiences. Its performer tries to convince people how a process happens in a different way than what actually happens by exploiting weaknesses in people's common methods to interpret their senses.

[hamdani yusuf]

[Bored chemist]

If science describes reality then magic describes non-reality.

OK, Unicorns are not real and so they are magical creatures.
But only children accept that they are real. Children do not know enough to tell what is real and what isn't.

The interesting question is why does anyone accept religion?

[Yahya A.Sharif (OP)]

If science describes reality then magic describes non-reality.

OK, Unicorns are not real and so they are magical creatures.

This can be categorized  as imagination

[Yahya A.Sharif (OP)]

The interesting question is why does anyone accept religion?

Religion is not science it is what is equivalence to science.It doesn't explore the universe with minds.It explores the universe with feelings. You feel whether you go to after life or not and you feel whether this universe built by a creator or not .Science knows the creation, feelings know the creator Ancient people are not ignorant they just felt it and made imaginations for that.Today's people feel the existence of God  and know the truth which is delivered by prophets.
Human is not just body that will rot , it is also life.What distinguish a dead body and living body ? both have the same matter and cells but the living body has life .The body thinks it will die and rot and spirit feels it will have eternal life. if we stop the body thoughts " death is nothingness "  then we will  feel the spirit feelings which is religion .This what scientists do today they have the body thoughts " death is nothingness "and then they will not make a place for the living human spirit feelings
The body naturally knows harm in not good for the body, harm will cease the body then a body feels pain to alter the human.The spirit knows immorality is harmful and pain of regret alters the human to behave well " for his eternal life "
These feelings and the spirit are in the chest:
"Then the Lord God formed man of dust from the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being"
Genesis 2:7

[Galileo1564]

I claim I can make an object disappear from one location and appear in another.

I pick up my water bottle from one place on the table and move it to another.  Mission accomplished.

So is motion magic? Is it religion?

Nope. Just science. As is all "magic".