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America slave Labour camps. What should be done?
« on: 16/02/2021 21:17:37 »
There are currently over 2 million people in America slave Labour camp system.
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/incarceration-rates-by-race-ethnicity-and-gender-in-the-u-s.html

Forced to work for the for profit prison system, while many having no pay for doing so:
https://www.newsweek.com/prison-slavery-who-benefits-cheap-inmate-labor-1093729

"Some prisoners in eight states—Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, Oklahoma, South Carolina and Texas—are not paid at all for their labor in government-run facilities. The national average for inmates receiving the least compensation for their maintenance work in these prisons is 14 cents per hour,"

The American constitution allows slavery for anyone who committed a crime in the 13th amendment.

Amendment XIII
Section 1.
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime


So rather then the 13th amendment banning slavery actually the 13th amendment made slavery legal.

There are currently more people in Americas slave Labour camps, then Stalin's Russia managed, many of which are non violent offenders.

America the supposed land of freedom and its massive slave Labour industry.

Any suggestions for a solution?
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Re: America slave Labour camps. What should be done?
« Reply #1 on: 16/02/2021 22:41:10 »
For a start, never support a Republican.
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Re: America slave Labour camps. What should be done?
« Reply #2 on: 17/02/2021 00:28:45 »
Quote from: Jolly2 on 16/02/2021 21:17:37
The national average for inmates receiving the least compensation for their maintenance work in these prisons is 14 cents per hour,"
Goddam pinko atheists payin' criminals good money? Hell no! They turn to crime 'cause they poor, so you give 'em cash? That ain't right. Hang 'em an' use taxpayers' money to pay bankers' bonuses! Apart from billionaire white pimps an' ponzos, o'course, 'cause they just good ole boys got caught havin' a hoot or bein' a little behind with the book keepin'.   

Never underestimate the cynicism of the electorate.
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Re: America slave Labour camps. What should be done?
« Reply #3 on: 17/02/2021 09:01:16 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 17/02/2021 00:28:45
Never underestimate the cynicism of the electorate.
I wish the electorate was more cynical.
As it is they believe any nonsense you write on the side of a bus.
The problem is that they aren't educated about politics.

If the fundamentals of economics were taught at primary school we might do better.
But they aren't so you can tell them that the reason they are short of cash is because of immigrants, and they believe it.
The fact that the only immigrants they know are the Patel family who run the newsagent's, work all the hours God sends but are still plainly skint doesn't figure in their voting choices.
If they were a bit more cynical they might recognise that they are skint because some rich bastard has all the money.
But it's the billionaires that run the media.
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Re: America slave Labour camps. What should be done?
« Reply #4 on: 17/02/2021 21:09:10 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 17/02/2021 09:01:16

But they aren't so you can tell them that the reason they are short of cash is because of immigrants, and they believe it.


If 5 million migrants come into a country each prepared to work for just one pound less an hour. How much do employers save an hour on labour costs?

Did you know many Mexicans voted for Trump, to stop competition to their wages?

It's the corporations that want mass immigration, for wage suppression primarily,  but also because they want to destroy all public services and make everything privatised. 

It's also the corporations that profit most from the wars that have caused mass refugee crisis' to happen, and corporations that are directly economically destroying countries across Africa for profit while also paying as little tax as possible, which also causes many Africans to move to the west for better conditions and pay as their own countries are kept economically suppressed intentionally.

And it's also corporations that run these mass slave Labour camps.
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Re: America slave Labour camps. What should be done?
« Reply #5 on: 17/02/2021 21:23:35 »
Quote from: Jolly2 on 17/02/2021 21:09:10
they want to destroy all public services and make everything privatised. 
And what side of the political spectrum opposes that?
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Re: America slave Labour camps. What should be done?
« Reply #6 on: 17/02/2021 21:27:39 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 17/02/2021 21:23:35
Quote from: Jolly2 on 17/02/2021 21:09:10
they want to destroy all public services and make everything privatised.
And what side of the political spectrum opposes that?

Well certianly not New Labour. Starmer is another Blairite sell out. Blair actively took steps to privatise the NHS with his public private Partnership initiative. He basically put in the private sector as a cancer that he knew would slowly grow, as it has.

The workers party is trying so is Diem25.

How France maintains it grip on Africa
The French government surprisingly is still very colonial. Which with all the corporations just adds to Africa's woes and more migration.
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Re: America slave Labour camps. What should be done?
« Reply #7 on: 17/02/2021 22:20:24 »
There's a big difference between immigrants and migrants, even if the gutter press, Tory Home Secretaries  and latterday fascists pretend otherwise.

Many of my friends and colleagues were of "East African Asian" origin - part of Idi Amin's forced exodus of the middle classes. Professional and business people arrived in the UK with nothing but the intention to stay, and set up family businesses where the kids were exposed to hard work and parental aspiration, and now run the health service.

That's quite different from the influx of migrant workers from the expanded EU, who were prepared to work not only in the traditional seasonal occupations but also in all sorts of manual jobs because the UK minimum wage was higher than, say, the median family income in Romania or even Poland. Thanks to cheap air travel, such employment was no more disruptive to family life than working on a ship or a distant construction site, but severely impacted the lives of British workers faced with soaring rents or unaffordable mortgages, for whom minimum wage will not feed a family. And not just unskilled labor: I could hire qualified medical and nursing professionals for less that I would have to pay a UK student: a year in a hi-tech private clinic in London does wonders for your CV and your English.     
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Re: America slave Labour camps. What should be done?
« Reply #8 on: 23/02/2021 18:38:13 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 17/02/2021 22:20:24
There's a big difference between immigrants and migrants, even if the gutter press, Tory Home Secretaries  and latterday fascists pretend otherwise.

Many of my friends and colleagues were of "East African Asian" origin - part of Idi Amin's forced exodus of the middle classes. Professional and business people arrived in the UK with nothing but the intention to stay, and set up family businesses where the kids were exposed to hard work and parental aspiration, and now run the health service.

That's quite different from the influx of migrant workers from the expanded EU, who were prepared to work not only in the traditional seasonal occupations but also in all sorts of manual jobs because the UK minimum wage was higher than, say, the median family income in Romania or even Poland. Thanks to cheap air travel, such employment was no more disruptive to family life than working on a ship or a distant construction site, but severely impacted the lives of British workers faced with soaring rents or unaffordable mortgages, for whom minimum wage will not feed a family. And not just unskilled labor: I could hire qualified medical and nursing professionals for less that I would have to pay a UK student: a year in a hi-tech private clinic in London does wonders for your CV and your English.   

The whole thing is about saving money, in America they attract scientists from arround the world, causing brain drain in their own countries but they pay them less then they would have to pay a American.

People migrate to find a better life then the one they have, and they only reason they cant find that life in the country they were born is because corporate interests want more profits. All goes together
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Re: America slave Labour camps. What should be done?
« Reply #9 on: 23/02/2021 20:51:49 »
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There are currently over 2 million people in America slave Labour camp system.
It costs far more to keep a person in prison than you could earn from the work they do.
- And some prisons in America are run by for-profit corporations (with injection of cash by the local governments)

The bigger issues are why the USA has such a large proportion of its population in prison, and why minorities are disproportionately represented in prison.
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_prison#United_States
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Re: America slave Labour camps. What should be done?
« Reply #10 on: 25/02/2021 22:48:33 »
Quote from: evan_au on 23/02/2021 20:51:49
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There are currently over 2 million people in America slave Labour camp system.
It costs far more to keep a person in prison than you could earn from the work they do.

You're missing the trick, the government pays that, it's all taxpayers money,  the private companies,  earn some profits off each inmate,  they also earn profits from the goods they produce, or the services they provide like fighting forest fires.

It's all profits for the companies with money paying for it commimg from the people(government)
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