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why CBD is not free distributed mids pandemics?
« on: 16/03/2021 21:53:09 »
knowing that many will refuse to take the vaccines, eventually many even wanted to, simply there will be not enough jabs for whole world [1] thus rises the question why CBD is not on free prescription mids this pandemics?

https://www.scienceforums.net/topic/124536-cbd-as-endocannabinoid-booster-of-t-cells/

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Re: why CBD is not free distributed mids pandemics?
« Reply #1 on: 16/03/2021 22:13:50 »
Because cbd is a new product so is wildly touted as a cure all for everything, much like other "new" drugs have been. Not that I have anything against natural products, aspirin after all was a natural drug to begin with, but further study is needed.
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Re: why CBD is not free distributed mids pandemics?
« Reply #2 on: 16/03/2021 22:50:50 »
@Petrochemicals Please compare any other T-Cell booster that is near the potential of CBD, there are tones of studies so its not new at all, tho there is lack of control group, for what think now there will be many candidates, I'll say indeed it need caution because compared to the last study in the proposed link [1] where the beneficial effects are due to naturally extracted CBD, there are other for synthetic one that have the opposite effects [1] also in the same overview its said bhang as beverage has opposite effects [1][2] thus there should be allowed at least mids pandemics legalization of few plants for personal immunization needs, if You say its not enough evaluated for free prescription then this is compromise ...
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Re: why CBD is not free distributed mids pandemics?
« Reply #3 on: 17/03/2021 08:47:14 »
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T-Cell booster ... CBD
We have seen the months that it takes to run a proper double-blind study - and the large number of participants required to show an effect.
- I think most people will be vaccinated before you could recruit 30,000 people for a trial (and source enough CBD for a trial)
- But before you can start a Clinical trial, you need to show some reasonable basis for assuming it might be effective.
- Eg tests in lab rats (mink will do just as well, as they are susceptible to COVID-19)

Wikipedia has an extensive article on Canabidiol, but doesn't mention it as an immune system booster
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabidiol

The link you provided is not a peer-reviewed paper, it is a discussion board.
- The people on scienceforums asked for a peer-reviewed paper, and I didn't see a link to one

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why CBD is not free distributed mids pandemics?
Because there seems to be no peer-reviewed evidence that it would do any good
- It might, perhaps, relieve some lockdown anxiety.

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Re: why CBD is not free distributed mids pandemics?
« Reply #4 on: 17/03/2021 08:52:22 »
Quote from: Osogovo on 16/03/2021 22:50:50
tho there is lack of control group, f
So, there's no actual scientific evidence.

I think you just answered your question.
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Re: why CBD is not free distributed mids pandemics?
« Reply #5 on: 17/03/2021 10:43:49 »
Quote from: evan_au on 17/03/2021 08:47:14
The link you provided is not a peer-reviewed paper, it is a discussion board.
- The people on scienceforums asked for a peer-reviewed paper, and I didn't see a link to one

hm, probably You want to say those quoted studies there (SF thread) are not academic?
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Re: why CBD is not free distributed mids pandemics?
« Reply #6 on: 17/03/2021 10:51:18 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 17/03/2021 08:52:22
Quote from: Osogovo on 16/03/2021 22:50:50
tho there is lack of control group, f
So, there's no actual scientific evidence.
I think you just answered your question.

for T-Cell boosting thre are many studies with control groups, but for sars-cov-2 still think none, altho defacto there are many regular marijuana users that can be evaluated in this case too ...

the problem here rises whether synthetic CBD is health risk! also about bhang beverage mentioned it the 3rd post, think that as indica strain from India as such is extra stuffed with THC thus in long run with large amount of thc provoke contra immune effect, tho this is just my guessing eg. superstitiously drawn from this next clip  :D

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Re: why CBD is not free distributed mids pandemics?
« Reply #7 on: 17/03/2021 12:32:37 »
Quote from: Osogovo on 17/03/2021 10:51:18
the problem here rises whether synthetic CBD is health risk
Do you understand that synthetic CBD is the same as natural CBD?
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Re: why CBD is not free distributed mids pandemics?
« Reply #8 on: 17/03/2021 12:47:30 »
Quote from: Osogovo on 17/03/2021 10:51:18
Quote from: Bored chemist on 17/03/2021 08:52:22
Quote from: Osogovo on 16/03/2021 22:50:50
tho there is lack of control group, f
So, there's no actual scientific evidence.
I think you just answered your question.

for T-Cell boosting thre are many studies with control groups, but for sars-cov-2 still think none, altho defacto there are many regular marijuana users that can be evaluated in this case too ...

the problem here rises whether synthetic CBD is health risk! also about bhang beverage mentioned it the 3rd post, think that as indica strain from India as such is extra stuffed with THC thus in long run with large amount of thc provoke contra immune effect, tho this is just my guessing eg. superstitiously drawn from this next clip  :D


Again, not  completely shooting you down,  medicine is slowly adopting compounds from cannabis for medical treatment.  The effects of non clinical marijuana have been noted in some anecdotal cases as helping fire the immune system against cancer. But unfortunately of all of the cancer patients who have tried cannabis the uncured people are in the majority by quite along way. A study is needed to find what is going on, whether it's a combination of drugs or some people's genes, but it is not the universal cure all for cancer that some tout it as unfortunately.
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Re: why CBD is not free distributed mids pandemics?
« Reply #9 on: 17/03/2021 12:54:28 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 17/03/2021 12:32:37
Do you understand that synthetic CBD is the same as natural CBD?

on paper as formula, in reality studies show that there is glitch, why this is the result suppose bioresonance could be case, yet this is for now still fringe field, maybe in natural CBD there is some extra spin of electrons [1][2]
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Re: why CBD is not free distributed mids pandemics?
« Reply #10 on: 17/03/2021 13:01:28 »
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 17/03/2021 12:47:30
Again, not  completely shooting you down,  medicine is slowly adopting compounds from cannabis for medical treatment.

here we speek not for cure but T-Cell booster, thus natural phytotherapy immunization, and why still the same its not norm, hm You have in the proposed first link explanation, its damoclean sword for the western capitalistic economies because now through medicine and pharmacology there is big macroeconomic variable for the system, so disbalancing that is not so simple, on top to be free homemade remedy, cmon probably You know this, but let explained to the rest, simply its too big momentum to be loosen to bloom freely, tho I think mids pandemics like this if not delivered as free remedy by the states, at lest can lift the ban for personal growth at least for few plants per person ...
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Re: why CBD is not free distributed mids pandemics?
« Reply #11 on: 17/03/2021 14:00:46 »
Quote from: Osogovo on 17/03/2021 13:01:28
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 17/03/2021 12:47:30
Again, not  completely shooting you down,  medicine is slowly adopting compounds from cannabis for medical treatment.

here we speek not for cure but T-Cell booster, thus natural phytotherapy immunization, and why still the same its not norm, hm You have in the proposed first link explanation, its damoclean sword for the western capitalistic economies because now through medicine and pharmacology there is big macroeconomic variable for the system, so disbalancing that is not so simple, on top to be free homemade remedy, cmon probably You know this, but let explained to the rest, simply its too big momentum to be loosen to bloom freely, tho I think mids pandemics like this if not delivered as free remedy by the states, at lest can lift the ban for personal growth at least for few plants per person ...
Nope, they make a profit from epilepsy cannabis medicine I should think. That is not a cure either, but a treatment without end unlike a T cell booster for a corona infection. Also doctors are not about to boil down some cannabis in butane liquid in their freezer and give you a quick shot of the residue. That is not clinical medicine.
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Re: why CBD is not free distributed mids pandemics?
« Reply #12 on: 17/03/2021 14:33:41 »
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 17/03/2021 14:00:46
Nope, they make a profit from epilepsy cannabis medicine I should think. That is not a cure either, but a treatment without end unlike a T cell booster for a corona infection. Also doctors are not about to boil down some cannabis in butane liquid in their freezer and give you a quick shot of the residue. That is not clinical medicine.

yes I am against concentrates, if You followed the SF thread from the first post You'll know I am for leaf smoothy, and yes corporatism is fracking alike lobotomy, thus phytotherapy extracts should be norm ...
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Re: why CBD is not free distributed mids pandemics?
« Reply #13 on: 17/03/2021 16:00:14 »
Quote from: Osogovo on 17/03/2021 12:54:28
maybe in natural CBD there is some extra spin of electrons
Bollocks.
(In my professional opinion as a spectroscopist).

There isn't a difference; but there are bad experiments- possibly involving impure materials.
Quote from: Osogovo on 17/03/2021 14:33:41
yes I am against concentrates
Why?

Why, in particular, do you think it's better not to be able to measure the dose- even approximately?
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Re: why CBD is not free distributed mids pandemics?
« Reply #14 on: 17/03/2021 17:13:56 »
My next door neighbour has just found good employment with a nearby medical canobis production facilitie, whether or not it has any medical benefits I hope it continues to be popular
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Re: why CBD is not free distributed mids pandemics?
« Reply #15 on: 17/03/2021 17:40:57 »
@Bored chemist if You noticed I was arguing abut the discrepancies in the proposed studies in the 3rd post here, thus bollox would be scientific elitism in this case that generics between natural and synthetic CBD are none, tho without extensive studies on the matter I cant claim just by comparing two studies this is final result and logic, I am just guessing why there are different results from natural and synthetic CBD, yet I am no authority anyhow so my personal opinion should not be taken for granted when saying the intake of natural CBD as smoothy from Cannabis Sativa leafs is something unique boosting of T-Cells, stil all this dont exclude anyhow the CBD immunity boosting, and now is the right time for mass evaluation ...
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Re: why CBD is not free distributed mids pandemics?
« Reply #16 on: 17/03/2021 17:44:16 »
Quote from: Osogovo on 17/03/2021 12:54:28
maybe in natural CBD there is some extra spin of electrons
Still bollocks.
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Re: why CBD is not free distributed mids pandemics?
« Reply #17 on: 17/03/2021 17:57:37 »
@Bored chemist , hm I provided info in the footnotes of the 8th post i.e. how chemistry pharmacology and medicine are not aware for bioresonance, and till that scientific field is not considered also in pharmacology we will have such paradoxes as the proposed discrepancies in the 3rd post between natural and artificial CBD ...
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Re: why CBD is not free distributed mids pandemics?
« Reply #18 on: 17/03/2021 18:07:17 »
Quote from: Osogovo on 17/03/2021 17:57:37
@Bored chemist , hm I provided info in the footnotes of the 8th post i.e. how chemistry pharmacology and medicine are not aware for bioresonance, and till that scientific field is not considered also in pharmacology we will have such paradoxes as the proposed discrepancies in the 3rd post between natural and artificial CBD ...
The reason it is bollocks is that we can measure electron spin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_paramagnetic_resonance

You are not going to get very far if you don't recognise bollocks when you see it.

The two references you posted were, at best, irrelevant.

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Re: why CBD is not free distributed mids pandemics?
« Reply #19 on: 17/03/2021 18:23:16 »
@Bored chemist hm your ignorance sounds familiar [1] but I will just point with exceptionalist approach science cant progress, here You should have in mind also simple example like the bond and effects among simple and complex sugars, I point to this analogy altho not comparable just to give accent again to bioresonance how is ignored by the pharmacology, simply in phytotherapy as natural extraxt from the plant we gather exactly that an natural bond among canabinoids that are for sure recognised by the organism as more normal than the isolated concentrates ...
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