Do Earthquakes Happen Under Mountains ?

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« on: 28/08/2007 22:58:33 »
Dearest Mountaineers,

D'ya like my mountain ?

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Nice isn't it ?..it's being delivered next Tuesday...I just need to find a place for my bird bath now as it's taking it's place !

Do Mountains have earthquakes beneath them ?..I know they are formed by tectonic plate movement (Please confirm) and that they gain...what ?..an inch a year or something ?



Is this additional height a jolt or just a gradual smooth increase ?

If I was on top of Everest for instance and there was an earthquake below..would I feel it ?



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« Reply #1 on: 28/08/2007 23:17:29 »
I think mostly gradual increase with time and many earthquakes although some doozies have been known to cause quite a large increase in some places, at least I believe that's what I recall. I have been on some large mountains and felt good size earthquakes, but everest is huge and I do not know in that size of a mountain! I would think so!

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« Reply #2 on: 29/08/2007 00:09:55 »
There was that dreadful earthquake a couple of years ago in the mountains of northern Pakistan, so I would imagine the answer is yes.
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« Reply #3 on: 29/08/2007 00:57:38 »
I tend to agree. at least that would be my assumption!

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« Reply #4 on: 29/08/2007 01:47:04 »
Gee Neil, If you put this in the GEOLOGY section you just might get an decent INFORMED answer.

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« Reply #5 on: 29/08/2007 01:55:15 »
HEE HEE HEE!

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« Reply #6 on: 29/08/2007 02:13:32 »
The voices in my head said that if I moved this topic here that I might receive a decent INFORMED answer !!
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« Reply #7 on: 29/08/2007 02:15:43 »
I guess we are awaiting that answer now..JIMBOB! LOL

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« Reply #8 on: 29/08/2007 03:00:08 »
THE INFORMED ANSWER

I has been noted above that earthquakes do occur under mountains chains that are being uplifted. But they also occur in deep ocean trenches. And some mountain chains almost NEVER have earthquakes. Also, some earthquakes occur where no mountains are or probably have never existed.

To elucidate:

Mountain that are being formed by plate collision experience earthquakes because of the plate collision. As one plate passes under the other, as in the Himalayas or the Alps.

Mountains that have been around for a long time and that have eroded some - or a lot - have very little, if any, earthquakes. Areas such as these include The Canadian Shield and the Grenville Front which have almost no earthquake activity. The middle region of the Sahara, where Libya produces most of its oil, is also inactive. There is a mountain range (buried)under my feet here in central Texas, but this one has been rejuvenated withing the past 60 million years so there is occasional, small earthquakes. They occur very rarely since it has been 60 MY since reactivation.

Deep Ocean Trenches are also an area of active earthquakes due to collision of tectonic plated. They just build a deep hole, that goes down, but has one side, the overriding side, that has island made by volcanic eruptions on them. The classic example is the Marianas Trench, where the deepest spot in the oceans of the world exists.

There are other causes for earthquakes as well but since the question was about mountains we will only mention these in passing.

mid-ocean ridges - spreading apart of plates causes earthquakes.

transform zones - areas where plates move against each other. Large mountains CAN be built by this process but is normally not a large factor in mountain building. Thee are some large ones in Alaska, though.

Then there are the ones no one really has enough data to explain - The Charleston, South Carolina Earthquake and the Cairo Ill. are examples of these.

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« Reply #9 on: 29/08/2007 03:08:08 »
Earthquakes happen everywhere Neil
So their shaking you will feel

In a tree
Under the sea

Hiking on a mountain
Splashing in a fountain

In the city
They're not witty

Even on a plain
they still cause pain

Uproot trees in the wood
Crumble buidings in the hood

They happen here
They happen there
They're everywhere! [:D]



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« Reply #10 on: 29/08/2007 03:12:10 »
Now you see why I wasn't a lit major  [:o]

Oh, sure, if you want the INFORMED answer, check out JimBob's post.
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« Reply #11 on: 29/08/2007 03:16:04 »
do they happen on a train?

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« Reply #12 on: 29/08/2007 03:18:23 »
Even in the rain!
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« Reply #13 on: 29/08/2007 03:19:36 »
However, there are no earthquakes on Mars (nor has there ever been an earthquake on Mars)!
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« Reply #14 on: 29/08/2007 03:20:38 »
yes it would be a marsquake

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« Reply #15 on: 29/08/2007 03:23:12 »
Perhaps we should also add catastrophic events to the cause of earthquakes. The impact of a large meteorite would cause an earthquake.

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« Reply #16 on: 29/08/2007 03:27:06 »
Not on a train not in the rain stop this silly quake talk your causing me Pain!! LOL

Good Job Jim BOB!

Hey Jim Bob I live on the San Andreas fault line in Humboldt county..Petrolia, Eureka Arcata, Mckinleville Blue lake.. we get lots of tremors all the time.. most everyday.. we don't feel a lot of them.. tell me about this area .. Crescent city above us was hit by quite a large tidal wave several years back.

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« Reply #17 on: 29/08/2007 03:27:20 »
Thats interesting!

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« Reply #18 on: 29/08/2007 03:33:58 »
do they happen on a train?
Even in the rain!
Not on a train not in the rain stop this silly quake talk your causing me Pain!!

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« Reply #19 on: 29/08/2007 04:28:06 »
I love Dr. Suess, and green eggs and ham!

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« Reply #20 on: 29/08/2007 06:11:16 »
Karen, the San Andreas is a "transform" fault- which means the two sides of the fault slide past each other (also known as strike-slip fault).  The fault separates two tectonic plates- everything west of the fault is on the Pacific Plate, and east of the fault is part of the North American Plate.  The Pacific plate is moving north relative to the North American Plate, so if you live west of the fault (most of Humboldt County is east of the fault), you'll be rubbing noses with eskimos in Alaska in the not to distant future (geologically speaking).
Most faults are either "normal" or "reverse", depending on which side of the fault moves up or down- as opposed to transform faults like the San Andreas.  Transform faults, on the other hand, are almost always very extensive in length, show considerable movement and create lots of earthquakes. 
The good news for you, being on the northern end of the San Andreas in California, is that you have lots of small earthquakes.  Seismologists (the folks that study earthquakes) worry most about the segments of the San Andreas that are quiet- because all that stress is buiding up in the rocks - which means a much larger earthquake the longer the segment is quiet.
Several years (actually decades) ago, an army base in Colorado was injecting some sort of waste water in deep drill holes.  All of a sudden, the area around the base started to experience lots of small quakes, which made folks in nearby Denver a bit nervous.  The army stopped injecting water into the wells, and the quakes stopped.  Intrigued by the possibilities, several scientists at the USGS proposed drilling wells along the San Andreas, and pumping water into one of the wells while pumping water out of all the adjacent wells.  The idea was to create small "controlled" earthquakes along the fault to relieve the strain in the rocks to avert a sure future catastrophe.  The plans were well developed when the lawyers finally pointed out the possible liabilities in setting off a possible uncontrollable major earthquake. Interesting idea anyway?
You had some recent activity in that area didn't you- seems I remember several 4+ magnitude earthquakes just offshore- was it May and June?
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« Reply #21 on: 29/08/2007 07:24:26 »
A clerihew for you...

I was in my home
When I read Bass's pome
It didn't half
Make me laugh

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« Reply #22 on: 29/08/2007 23:28:06 »
All I asked was quakes beneath a mountain ?
And lo did pass many posts from the fountain
With informed luff from Jimbob‘s face
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« Reply #23 on: 19/09/2007 13:44:54 »
I love Dr. Seuss, and green eggs and ham!

That sounds about right as far as time frames. a few years back we had a 7.2 and 7.0 and other 4 and 5 point aftershocks .. Those were really amazing. 1rst one knocked me over off balance while vacuuming the floor. I thought I did it hitting my cabinet with the vacuuming.. LOL The only problem with that was that I was not a drinker so I realizes after several seconds we were having a big quake . I had time to get out of the house and watch things on the street sway and move telephone poles cars trucks rolling back and forth and huge waves of the paved street rolling along like ocean waves, actually humping up and straightening out! LOL! Was creepy!

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« Reply #24 on: 19/09/2007 13:47:39 »
All I asked was quakes beneath a mountain ?
And lo did pass many posts from the fountain
With informed luff from Jimbob‘s face
To the quirky ge-ODE from Mr Bass !





Thanks for the excellent responses !!

BIG HUGS AND SHMISHES to you all !!

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You are welcome Sir!  I would like to know more about where I live!

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« Reply #25 on: 20/09/2007 05:45:40 »
a few years back we had a 7.2 and 7.0 and other 4 and 5 point aftershocks .. Those were really amazing. 1rst one knocked me over off balance while vacuuming the floor. I thought I did it hitting my cabinet with the vacuuming.. LOL The only problem with that was that I was not a drinker so I realizes after several seconds we were having a big quake . I had time to get out of the house and watch things on the street sway and move telephone poles cars trucks rolling back and forth and huge waves of the paved street rolling along like ocean waves, actually humping up and straightening out! LOL! Was creepy!
Must have been an amazing sight.  I've often thought I'd like to see something like that-but when it comes right down to it I'd probably be as scared as everyone else.
Karen, what town do you live in?  That way I can look on some of my fault maps and see if I can provide any further info.
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« Reply #26 on: 20/09/2007 06:47:38 »
However, there are no earthquakes on Mars (nor has there ever been an earthquake on Mars)!

I thought the jury was still out as to whether there had been earthquakes (or should that be marsquakes) in the dim and distant past of Mars.

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« Reply #27 on: 23/09/2007 03:16:44 »
a few years back we had a 7.2 and 7.0 and other 4 and 5 point aftershocks .. Those were really amazing. 1rst one knocked me over off balance while vacuuming the floor. I thought I did it hitting my cabinet with the vacuuming.. LOL The only problem with that was that I was not a drinker so I realizes after several seconds we were having a big quake . I had time to get out of the house and watch things on the street sway and move telephone poles cars trucks rolling back and forth and huge waves of the paved street rolling along like ocean waves, actually humping up and straightening out! LOL! Was creepy!
Must have been an amazing sight.  I've often thought I'd like to see something like that-but when it comes right down to it I'd probably be as scared as everyone else.
Karen, what town do you live in?  That way I can look on some of my fault maps and see if I can provide any further info.
i live in Fieldbrook , Arcata, Blue lake, And mckinleyville. We are in the middle and districts are fighting over us lol

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« Reply #28 on: 23/09/2007 04:17:34 »
You are living just north of Mendocino Tripple junction- where three different tectonic plates come together.  Pacific plate, North American plate and the Juan de Fuca plate.  You've got it all!
No wonder you have so many earthquakes.  You've got 2 major transform faults (San Andreas and Mendeoino), you live right on top of a subduction zone and have a spreading center not far offshore.  No telling how many subsidary faults?
I'll try to pull together some maps and get them back to you in the next few days.
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« Reply #29 on: 23/09/2007 04:22:33 »
wow karen you're in the center of everything! lol

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« Reply #30 on: 23/09/2007 04:39:36 »
Yes we do!

Thanks Bass! That would be cool. I would like more knowledge about this!

I don't get as scared as I used to until I think oh my Gosh I don't know how to swim! LOL! As if I were going to be able to!LOL

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« Reply #31 on: 23/09/2007 04:40:55 »
Eureka is a bit over 14 miles away! about 3o minutes from me!

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« Reply #32 on: 23/09/2007 05:21:36 »
I tried to doctor up a Google Earth image?

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MF is Mendocino transform fault, SAF is San Andreas fault, SZ is subduction zone (Juan de Fuca plate is diving beneath the NA plate), spreading ridge shown on western edge of Juan de Fuca plate.

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« Reply #33 on: 23/09/2007 05:27:07 »
I'd say that is pretty close we are about 15 minutes from the beach if that!

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« Reply #34 on: 23/09/2007 05:31:21 »
Can you shrink the map to fit! LOL I don't know how to do it!

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« Reply #35 on: 23/09/2007 05:32:28 »
Can you shrink the map to fit! LOL I don't know how to do it!

YAYYYYYYY You did it before I refreshed1 LOL

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« Reply #36 on: 23/09/2007 05:33:19 »
I don't know how to do it either, I think I just got lucky
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« Reply #37 on: 23/09/2007 05:35:09 »
You did good! What did you do I want to know! LOL

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« Reply #38 on: 23/09/2007 05:36:51 »
Used photoshop and resized the image, then had a duece of time uploading it again
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« Reply #39 on: 23/09/2007 05:37:33 »
They all seem to merge rite on the tip of our little nub! LOL So thats why we get so many little tremors!

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« Reply #40 on: 23/09/2007 05:40:00 »
Used photoshop and resized the image, then had a duece of time uploading it again

Hee hee You did it right.. I have never heard the term "duece of a time" what does it mean the term duece in this case.. I know like hell of a time, but just duece used what does it mean. I always thought it was the 2 in a deck of cards?

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« Reply #41 on: 23/09/2007 05:40:52 »
So like the little Duece?? coupe you don't know what I ve got!

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« Reply #42 on: 23/09/2007 05:44:49 »
I think its a term I must have picked up when Sacajawea came through [;)]
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« Reply #43 on: 23/09/2007 05:47:01 »
Duece coup- would have been my dream car at one time.  I always drove practical cars, like the beat up old international Scout I ran around the hills in- thing was built like a tank, woefully underpowered, but would go anywhere.
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« Reply #44 on: 23/09/2007 05:48:47 »
Thats funny! I want an italian sports car! LOL

Now now lets not date ourselves! LOL!

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« Reply #45 on: 23/09/2007 05:53:31 »
Date myself!?
My wife wouldn't understand if I dated anyone but her.
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« Reply #46 on: 23/09/2007 05:54:22 »
LOL LOL!!! Thats funny!

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« Reply #47 on: 23/09/2007 05:55:04 »
You do Know I meant give up our real ages! LOL

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« Reply #48 on: 23/09/2007 05:57:25 »
Are you all anywhere close to Libby Montana!

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Do Earthquakes Happen Under Mountains ?
« Reply #49 on: 23/09/2007 05:58:51 »
LOL
The fact that I have grandkids dates me
Old enough to have a grandson
Slow enough to study rocks
Thirsty enough to find a pub