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On the Lighter Side => New Theories => Topic started by: seeker3 on 24/03/2019 00:15:50

Title: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: seeker3 on 24/03/2019 00:15:50
Fundamental Forces

All matters are made from atoms, all atoms are made from charged particles.

Charged particles only carry electrostatic force, therefore all forces matters carried must be electrostatic force in nature. Same charges repel each other, opposite charges attract each other.

Strong and weak force are imaginary, never can be measured or calculated. If there is strong force that can make protons stick together, there must be a strong force carrier, and it must be negative charged. If there is a weak force, what is the force carrier? What is its charge? How can all atoms are neutrally charged?

Magnetic force is circular electrostatic force carried by magnet or circular current. Magnet north pole carries clockwise electric force, south pole carries counterclockwise electric force.   

Coulomb's force and gravity are the most accurate measured forces in labs. Magnetic force is used daily.

From Coulomb's Law, we can calculate the universal levitation force between matter 1 and matter 2 at distance R, which is the repulsion force between lines of sight electrons on the surface of matter 1 and matter 2. F=Ke x q1q2/R^2, q1 and q2 are total charge of lines of sight electrons on matter 1 and matter 2.

Levity is 10^36 times stronger than gravity, how come matters are still attracting each other with gravity?

Because gravity is the net electrostatic force between charged particles between neutrally charged matters.

All positive charges in matter 1 attract all negative charges in matter 2 and repel all positive charges, all negative charges in matter 1 attract all positive charges in matter 2 and repel all negative charges.

Due to electrostatic force induction between neutrally charges matters, the net force is always a weak attraction force we called gravity F=G x m1m2/R^2.

Gravity causes matter formation, planet in orbit. Coulomb's force and levity causes all other nature phenomenon. Such as quantum entanglement, induction, photoelectric effect, radiation and light.

Forces are coexisting with matters, forces are continuing and instantaneously through out space, therefore energy able to teleport between matters.

Hot plasma on the Sun carry vibrating electrostatic force/energy, that energy teleport to Earth outer atmosphere through levity and propagate in air at light speed.

LIGO mistaken detected gravity wave from 1.3 billion years ago, gravity is instantaneous, gravity wave is instant. If gravity is not instantaneous, no planets can have stable orbit.

Scientists mistaken accurate measured Milky Way Galaxy total mass. They thought far away stars are from the past, light is photon particles traveling in space at light speed.

The fact is all matters and energy are existing at forever ongoing now, nothing is existing in the past or future. There is no such thing as photon particle, no photon or EM wave traveling in space at light speed.

Light is vibrating electrostatic force carried by vibrating electrons propagating through matter produced mechanical wave. Light can only coexist with matter, charge and plasma. Light speed in a medium is the rate of induction of electrostatic force. There is no light in space, light teleport between matters in space instantly.

All theories based on light speed in vacuum space is C are mistaken.

Stars are not fusion reactors. Stars don’t radiate light into space at light speed at all directions. Energy must coexist with matter. Stars only radiate thermal energy with planets according to their distance. If stars are fusion reactors, where is all the energy produced in the past? Why the temperature of the universe is not raising up?

All energy is came from atom formation, opposite charged particles attract each other, same charged particles repel each other, atoms able to form and carry formation energy, which is vibration electrostatic force carried by vibrating charged particles. Every atom is a perpetual machine.

The more atoms attracted together under gravity, the bigger mass, the higher energy density, the higher temperature and the higher vibration frequency.

The Sun shares its thermal energy with Earth, also works as a heat sink, it keeps Earth temperature stable. All the heat we produced is radiated to the Sun, therefore Earth temperature is not raising up.

Energy is conserved, the universe is a perpetual machine, the big bang theory is mistaken.
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: Kryptid on 24/03/2019 02:57:50
Oh great, another science denialist...

Strong and weak force are imaginary, never can be measured or calculated.

Oh yes they can be: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yukawa_interaction, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_binding_energy,

If there is strong force that can make protons stick together, there must be a strong force carrier, and it must be negative charged.

There is a carrier, but it isn't negatively-charged: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluon

If there is a weak force, what is the force carrier?

The W and Z vector bosons: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W_and_Z_bosons

What is its charge?

+1, 0 and -1 (there are three different particles involved).

How can all atoms are neutrally charged?

They're not. Some are ionized.

From Coulomb's Law, we can calculate the universal levitation force between matter 1 and matter 2 at distance R, which is the repulsion force between lines of sight electrons on the surface of matter 1 and matter 2. F=Ke x q1q2/R^2, q1 and q2 are total charge of lines of sight electrons on matter 1 and matter 2.

Electrons in two pieces of matter might repel each other, but they also attract the protons in each piece of matter. Don't forget that in your calculations.

Levity is 10^36 times stronger than gravity

Citation needed.

Because gravity is the net electrostatic force between charged particles between neutrally charged matters.

No, it isn't. Gravity also attracts objects with no charge at all, such as light.

All positive charges in matter 1 attract all negative charges in matter 2 and repel all positive charges, all negative charges in matter 1 attract all positive charges in matter 2 and repel all negative charges.

Due to electrostatic force induction between neutrally charges matters, the net force is always a weak attraction force we called gravity F=G x m1m2/R^2.

Please post the math showing that this matches the known strength of gravity.

LIGO mistaken detected gravity wave from 1.3 billion years ago, gravity is instantaneous, gravity wave is instant.

There was no mistake. Gravitational waves travel at the speed of light. This was measured to be true.

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If gravity is not instantaneous, no planets can have stable orbit.

Based on what reasoning?

Scientists mistaken accurate measured Milky Way Galaxy total mass. They thought far away stars are from the past, light is photon particles traveling in space at light speed.

The fact is all matters and energy are existing at forever ongoing now, nothing is existing in the past or future. There is no such thing as photon particle, no photon or EM wave traveling in space at light speed.

We know that photons exist. We have instruments that can detect them one at a time: https://www.qdusa.com/products/single-photon-detector.html

We also know how fast light travels, and it isn't instantaneous: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_light#Measurement

All theories based on light speed in vacuum space is C are mistaken.

We have measured the speed of light in a vacuum as being c: https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/pdf/10.1098/rspa.1948.0085

Stars are not fusion reactors.

Yes they are. Their neutrino emission is a strong piece of evidence for this, as is their composition and behavior (they go through different life stages based on what elements they are fusing).

Stars don’t radiate light into space at light speed at all directions.

Yes they do. See my link where the speed of light in a vacuum was measured.

Stars only radiate thermal energy with planets according to their distance.

If that was true, they would have cooled off long ago. Yet they have been burning bright for millions or billions of years.

If stars are fusion reactors, where is all the energy produced in the past?

Spreading out thinner and thinner as it travels through space.

Why the temperature of the universe is not raising up?

Because (1) the universe is expanding, and (2) stars make up an absurdly tiny percentage of the total volume of the visible universe.

the big bang theory is mistaken.

If it is, it isn't because of anything you've stated.
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: seeker3 on 24/03/2019 04:54:03
Gravity is inherited force, coexist with matters. It is always attracting matters, never stop, continuing. Therefore it is instantaneous. Simple fact. Too simple and obvious, smart people over looked it. If Sun's gravity is light speed, take 8 minutes to reach earth, then gravity will be delay 8 minutes to reach earth new position.

If Coulomb's force is fact, levity is as real as gravity, as strong as electrostatic force. Fact?

All things in the universe have their precise mechanism. Without precise mechanism, any theory cannot be correct.
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: Kryptid on 24/03/2019 05:02:29
Gravity is inherited force, coexist with matters. It is always attracting matters, never stop, continuing. Therefore it is instantaneous. Simple fact.

Non-sequitur.

If Sun's gravity is light speed, take 8 minutes to reach earth, then gravity will be delay 8 minutes to reach earth new position.

So? All that means is that the Earth is attracted to the position where the Sun was 8 minutes ago.

If Coulomb's force is fact, levity is as real as gravity, as strong as electrostatic force. Fact?

How are you defining "levity"?

All things in the universe have their precise mechanism. Without precise mechanism, any theory cannot be correct.

You don't have to know how something works in order to know that it does work. People didn't have to know anything about genetics, cell division or hormones in order to reproduce.
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: seeker3 on 24/03/2019 05:21:24
Gravity is always there, never can be stopped. Forces have no speed, all forces are instantaneous between all matters.

Levity is the repulsion electrostatic force between electrons on the surface of matters. Levity only works on the surface of matters. Scientists talked about levity, I just lucky enough to prove it by using Coulomb's law.
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: Kryptid on 24/03/2019 05:24:40
Gravity is always there, never can be stopped.

Saying that gravity can't be stopped and that it travels at infinite speed are two different claims.

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Forces have no speed, all forces are instantaneous between all matters.

When was that ever experimentally demonstrated? Please provide a reputable source.
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: seeker3 on 24/03/2019 05:29:56
Gravity is always there, never can be stopped.

Saying that gravity can't be stopped and that it travels at infinite speed are two different claims.

Forces don't travel, forces are always at work.

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Forces have no speed, all forces are instantaneous between all matters.

When was that ever experimentally demonstrated? Please provide a reputable source.

Hold a magnet in each hand, feel the force? Repel or attract don't matter. Wave 1 hand, does energy teleport to other hand? Light wave and gravity wave teleport between matters the same way.
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: Kryptid on 24/03/2019 05:33:08
Hold a magnet in each hand, feel the force? Repel or attract don't matter. Wave 1 hand, does energy teleport to other hand? Light wave and gravity wave teleport between matters the same way.

Instantaneous action and light-speed action would seem identical to anyone trying to perform that experiment. Our senses are nowhere near sharp enough to tell the difference. You're going to need something significantly more precise than that to prove your case.
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: seeker3 on 24/03/2019 05:37:24
F=G x m1m2/R^2, F=Ke x q1q2/R^2.

Forces have nothing to do with time.

Forces are coexisting with matter, therefore instantaneous.

What is the speed of force? What is the speed of road?
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: Kryptid on 24/03/2019 05:39:59
F=G x m1m2/R^2, F=Ke x q1q2/R^2.

Forces have nothing to do with time.

It does in the sense that the carrier of that force takes time to traverse a given distance.

What is the speed of force?

The speed of light at most.

What is the speed of road?

Roads are physical objects. They are not a force.
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: seeker3 on 24/03/2019 05:44:23
Force is as real as road. Force is the conductor/road of energy.

If you insist force has light speed, what is the mechanism?
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: Kryptid on 24/03/2019 05:46:38
Force is as real as road.

I never said that forces weren't real.

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Force is the conductor/road of energy.

I'm not completely sure I understand what that means.

If you insist force has light speed, what is the mechanism?

Fields.
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: seeker3 on 24/03/2019 05:52:01
Fields is the mechanism?

Please explain.
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: Kryptid on 24/03/2019 05:55:08
Fields is the mechanism?

Please explain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_(physics)

For some reason, the link didn't post correctly. Add a ) in the url to get the proper link.
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: seeker3 on 24/03/2019 05:57:15
Fields is the mechanism?

Please explain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_(physics)

If you can explain something, why quote wiki?

There is no field but force. Field is as real as quanta, ether, imaginary.
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: Kryptid on 24/03/2019 05:58:43
If you can explain something, why quote wiki?

It has an extensive write up on the topic and can explain it much more thoroughly than I can.

There is no field but force. Field is as real as quanta, ether, imaginary.

Can I take that as a sign that you didn't read the article?
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: seeker3 on 24/03/2019 06:07:08
Yes. What is field? 
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: Kryptid on 24/03/2019 06:12:24
What is field? 

Couldn't be bothered to read even the first sentence of the article, huh?
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: seeker3 on 24/03/2019 06:16:45
What is field?

Couldn't be bothered to read even the first sentence of the article, huh?

I am sure there is no field but force. I edited wiki many times. But they don't accept the fact. Without force there is no field. Field is imaginary, force is real.
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: Kryptid on 24/03/2019 06:21:08
I am sure there is no field but force. I edited wiki many times. But they don't accept the fact.

Did you provide a reference from a reputable source to back up what you wrote there? If not, that is why your edit didn't stay.

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Without force there is no field. Field is imaginary, force is real.

Are you actually going to bother supporting this argument with experimental evidence or are you just going to keep making unsupported assertions?
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: seeker3 on 24/03/2019 06:30:04
The only way to tell a field existing is to measuring its force strength.

If there is only one Sun in the universe, no other mass at all, how can you measure or tell Sun's gravity or gravity field?
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: Kryptid on 24/03/2019 06:33:45
The only way to tell a field existing is to measuring its force strength.

Which is easy to do.

If there is only one Sun in the universe, no other mass at all, how can you measure or tell Sun's gravity or gravity field?

One way would be to observe the rate at which some of the particles in a solar filament fall back down onto the Sun's surface. It's ultimately irrelevant, however, since there is more than one star in the Universe.
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: Bored chemist on 24/03/2019 09:35:37
I am sure there is no field but force. I edited wiki many times. But they don't accept the fact.
That's because you are plainly wrong.
It's unfortunate that you don't recognise this.

There's a name for this phenomenon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: guest39538 on 24/03/2019 11:53:08
Strong and weak force are imaginary, never can be measured or calculated.
You're on the right lines but this part is not true .  The strong electrostatic force is the binary bond between the proton and electron and the weak force is the emitted interwoven neutral field that is the gravity field , aether , electromagnetic field all in one .
Not forgetting of course , all this is interwoven with the space-time singularity field .
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: seeker3 on 24/03/2019 12:01:46
Forces and energy are coexisting with matters.

Vacuum space contains no matters, therefore space contains no force, no energy, no field.

Gravity and levity connected all matters all the time, therefore instantaneous through out the universe.

All energy and matter and information are only existing at forever ongoing now.

Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: seeker3 on 24/03/2019 12:05:40
Strong and weak force are imaginary, never can be measured or calculated.
You're on the right lines but this part is not true .  The strong electrostatic force is the binary bond between the proton and electron and the weak force is the emitted interwoven neutral field that is the gravity field , aether , electromagnetic field all in one .
Not forgetting of course , all this is interwoven with the space-time singularity field .
Theory is just theory. How to calculate and measure both forces? What about the charges of those forces? How can all atoms are neutrally charged?
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: guest39538 on 24/03/2019 12:13:21
Forces and energy are coexisting with matters.

Vacuum space contains no matters, therefore space contains no force, no energy, no field.

Gravity and levity connected all matters all the time, therefore instantaneous through out the universe.

All energy and matter and information are only existing at forever ongoing now.


I can tell by your wording and knowledge that you lack education and knowledge about physics but I am happy to discuss your notions with you .

Energy is matter  and matter occupies space .  I'll explain the universe in brief , it will help you with your own thoughts .


Space-time is an interwoven ''ball'' of energy that occupies space , this ''ball' is expanding into outer space . Things within  the ''ball'' are held together by the ball or they would also expand into outer space .

Things in the ball are attracted to things in the ball, the balls interior field being the aehter and carrier of information . 


A thing with less energy within the ball is attracted to bigger things within the ball, the bigger things within the ball are attracted to the outer of the ball , but the balls interior field pushes back . 


That's it in a nutshell, easy isn't it ?

Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: guest39538 on 24/03/2019 12:19:17
Strong and weak force are imaginary, never can be measured or calculated.
You're on the right lines but this part is not true .  The strong electrostatic force is the binary bond between the proton and electron and the weak force is the emitted interwoven neutral field that is the gravity field , aether , electromagnetic field all in one .
Not forgetting of course , all this is interwoven with the space-time singularity field .
Theory is just theory. How to calculate and measure both forces? What about the charges of those forces? How can all atoms are neutrally charged?

We measure G and Coulombs . G is the measure of the weak electrostatic force .

Google it .

added -

a+b =1/2 m

(a+b)*F2=m

a+b=1E 

1E*Eⁿ / vol = electric field

ok ?
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: Bored chemist on 24/03/2019 13:47:15
Strong and weak force are imaginary, never can be measured or calculated.
You're on the right lines but this part is not true .  The strong electrostatic force is the binary bond between the proton and electron and the weak force is the emitted interwoven neutral field that is the gravity field , aether , electromagnetic field all in one .
Not forgetting of course , all this is interwoven with the space-time singularity field .
Theory is just theory. How to calculate and measure both forces? What about the charges of those forces? How can all atoms are neutrally charged?

Seeker,
just to let you know, the stuff that TheBox posts is generally nonsense.
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: seeker3 on 24/03/2019 19:16:41
That's why I won't take his comment seriously.
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: seeker3 on 25/03/2019 20:45:51
Coulomb's force rule the universe. Suppose strong and weak forces are fact, they must be electrostatic force in nature. Same charges repel, opposite charges attract.

Coulomb's force has infinite range, how can strong force has short range? What is the mechanism?

Strong force must be negative charged in order to attract protons to stick together in the nucleus. If so, what is the net charge of the atom?
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: Kryptid on 25/03/2019 21:44:52
Coulomb's force rule the universe.

Not anymore than the other forces do.

Suppose strong and weak forces are fact, they must be electrostatic force in nature.

Nope.

Same charges repel, opposite charges attract.

That's not how the strong force works. Two protons have the same strong charge, yet they attract each other. That is, until they get a certain distance apart. Then they repel each other.

Coulomb's force has infinite range, how can strong force has short range? What is the mechanism?

The electromagnetic force has an infinite range in part because the particles that mediate it (virtual photons) are stable. The particles that mediate the strong nuclear force are virtual mesons, which are unstable. So the strong force can only propagate as far as those mesons can travel before they decay.

Strong force must be negative charged in order to attract protons to stick together in the nucleus.

Nope.

If so, what is the net charge of the atom?

The charge on the atom depends on the ratio of the electrons to protons.
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: seeker3 on 26/03/2019 00:41:36
Opinion various. Logic and fact stand.

Protons are positive charged, they don't attract each other at any distance. They repel each other with F=Ke x pp/R^2.

Strong force must be negative charged, otherwise, protons will not stick in the nucleus.

Strong force carrier must has mass, must be charged, so atoms mass and net charge will not equal to model prediction.

All things have precise mechanism, science is not word salad.
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: Kryptid on 26/03/2019 00:51:10
Opinion various. Logic and fact stand.

I haven't stated opinions. I have stated facts as discerned by physics experiments.

Protons are positive charged, they don't attract each other at any distance. They repel each other with F=Ke x pp/R^2.

They repel each other at long distances because of that electric repulsion, yes. At much closer distances, the attraction of the strong force overwhelms the repulsion of the electromagnetic force so the protons become attracted to each other.

Strong force must be negative charged,

It isn't.

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otherwise, protons will not stick in the nucleus.

The strong force is not electromagnetic. It is its own unique force. It's stronger than the electromagnetic force.

Strong force carrier must has mass, must be charged, so atoms mass and net charge will not equal to model prediction.

They do have mass, and some mesons are charged, but they exist as virtual particles. That means that they don't exist long enough to be directly detectable. So they don't affect the measurements of atomic charge or mass.
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: seeker3 on 26/03/2019 01:17:49
Why in a hydrogen atom electron and proton don't stick together?

What is the precise mechanism?

Is the electron moving? How? Why? What is energy? What is energy level? How electrons change energy level and emit photon? What is photon made of? Why photon accelerate from water to air?
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: Kryptid on 26/03/2019 01:31:35
Why in a hydrogen atom electron and proton don't stick together?

What is the precise mechanism?

Heisenberg's uncertainty principle. In the quantum world, a particle's momentum and location must remain uncertain to a certain degree. An electron of a given energy (such as the electron in a hydrogen atom) can only be confined to a volume of some certain size for this reason. Trying to confine it to the volume of an atomic nucleus is much too small for its energy level.

Is the electron moving?  How? Why?

Yes. Again, the uncertainty principle prevents any particle from being absolutely at rest.



What is energy? What is energy level?

The binding energy of an electron in a ground state hydrogen atom is 1,312 kilojoules per mole.

How electrons change energy level and emit photon?

They have to be in an excited energy state first. The excess energy can then be donated to a virtual photon near the electron that exists in quantum vacuum fluctuations, turning it into a real photon. In the process, the electron loses energy and falls back to its base energy level.

What is photon made of?

I don't know if this is a meaningful question. Modern physics models it as a fundamental particle, which means that it isn't made of anything simpler than itself.

Why photon accelerate from water to air?

I'm not exactly certain about the reason for this, but I think it has something to do with the fact that there are fewer atoms in air that get in the way of the photon. That's probably an oversimplification.
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: seeker3 on 26/03/2019 01:48:27
Description is not explanation. Science is not story.

What is uncertain? There is only 1 force exist between electron and proton at a distance.

What is energy? How electron carry energy? What is energy state? Photon accelerate from water to air is because air have less atom? Why don't you wiki?
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: Kryptid on 26/03/2019 04:16:57
What is uncertain? There is only 1 force exist between electron and proton at a distance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty_principle

What is energy?

According to dictionary.com: "3.
PHYSICS
the property of matter and radiation which is manifest as a capacity to perform work (such as causing motion or the interaction of molecules)."

How electron carry energy?

It has mass. Mass has its own associated energy. It also carries energy by moving (kinetic energy).

What is energy state?

The state of energy that an object is in. Pretty self-explanatory. It's another name for the amount of energy that a particle is carrying.

Photon accelerate from water to air is because air have less atom? Why don't you wiki?

I could ask you the same thing.
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: seeker3 on 26/03/2019 04:27:07
If light is wave, not particle, it still can energize solar cell to emit electron, if the frequency is high enough.

Agree?

Waves must exist in a medium not vacuum space.

Agree?
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: Kryptid on 26/03/2019 04:28:52
If light is wave, not particle, it still can energize solar cell to emit electron, if the frequency is high enough.

Agree?

It's a wave and a particle.

Waves must exist in a medium not vacuum space.

Agree?

Light travels through the vacuum of space, so I obviously disagree (as demonstrated by the delay times when communicating with spacecraft).
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: seeker3 on 26/03/2019 04:32:10
Do you really think 23 watt radio on Voyager can send clear pictures billions miles away?
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: Kryptid on 26/03/2019 04:34:31
Do you really think 23 watt radio on Voyager can send clear pictures billions miles away?

It did, so obviously it can.
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: seeker3 on 26/03/2019 04:43:49
Do you really think 23 watt radio on Voyager can send clear pictures billions miles away?

It did, so obviously it can.

Why the pictures get better farther away?
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: seeker3 on 26/03/2019 04:46:06
Upgraded camera by ET?
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: Kryptid on 26/03/2019 04:47:00
Why the pictures get better farther away?

I doubt they do. Do you have some objective evidence that this is the case?
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: seeker3 on 26/03/2019 04:52:13
Why the pictures get better farther away?

I doubt they do. Do you have some objective evidence that this is the case?

https://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/galleries/videos/
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: Kryptid on 26/03/2019 04:57:37
https://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/galleries/videos/

How is that supposed to prove your point? And don't say something like "they look clearer" because that is subjective, not objective. When I look at images of Jupiter taken by Voyager, it looks just as clear to me as the images of Neptune. So obviously we can't use what they look like to the human eye as evidence of anything.
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: seeker3 on 26/03/2019 05:40:15
How far will a 25 Watt VHF radio transmit?
For example, a 25 watt marine radio will roughly have a maximum range of 60 nautical miles (111 km) between antennas mounted on tall ships, but that same radio will only have a range of 5 nautical miles (9 km) between antennas mounted on small boats at sea level.
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: Kryptid on 26/03/2019 06:05:30
How far will a 25 Watt VHF radio transmit?

Far enough to get data from a spacecraft beyond Neptune (since it worked).

For one, the signal did not spread out in all directions like the light from a light bulb would. The spacecraft had a 12 foot-wide dish that would have been able to send signals directly towards the Earth. Detecting a radio signal doesn't depend only upon the strength of the signal, but also the sensitivity of the receiver. The signals were picked up by the Deep Space Network, which consists of three facility complexes located at different regions on the Earth's surface. Each complex has multiple satellite dishes, some of which are 112 feet across and one at 230 feet across (about as wide as a Boeing 747 is long). Those facilities were designed specifically to pick up signals from spacecraft in the far reaches of the Solar System.

So you can cut it out with the conspiracy nonsense.
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: seeker3 on 29/03/2019 21:09:15

Why all scientists forgot light is propagating in the air? Without air for medium, how can light wave propagate?

Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: Kryptid on 29/03/2019 22:34:53
Why all scientists forgot light is propagating in the air? Without air for medium, how can light wave propagate?

It does have a medium. The electromagnetic field.
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: seeker3 on 29/03/2019 22:39:39
Why all scientists forgot light is propagating in the air? Without air for medium, how can light wave propagate?

It does have a medium. The electromagnetic field.

What is the content of EM field? What is electric field carrier in space? What is magnetic field carrier in space? How EM field propagate at light speed in vacuum space? What is the mechanism?
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: Kryptid on 29/03/2019 22:47:48
What is the content of EM field?

Virtual photons.

What is electric field carrier in space? What is magnetic field carrier in space?

The electromagnetic field.

How EM field propagate at light speed in vacuum space? What is the mechanism?

I posted a video explaining this already.

Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: seeker3 on 29/03/2019 23:07:44
What is the content of EM field?

Virtual photons.

What is electric field carrier in space? What is magnetic field carrier in space?

The electromagnetic field.

How EM field propagate at light speed in vacuum space? What is the mechanism?

I posted a video explaining this already.

Photon is the content of EM field? Does photon carry electric force? Does photon carry magnetic force?

EM field is the carrier of electric field and magnetic field? What is the carrier of EM field?
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: Kryptid on 29/03/2019 23:09:52
Photon is the content of EM field?

Yes.

Does photon carry electric force? Does photon carry magnetic force?

It contains an electric and magnetic field, yes.

EM field is the carrier of electric field and magnetic field?

Yes.

What is the carrier of EM field?

Virtual photons.
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: seeker3 on 29/03/2019 23:22:36
If photon carry electric and magnetic field, is photon positive or negative charged? How much?

Can a magnet attract photons?
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: Kryptid on 29/03/2019 23:25:02
If photon carry electric and magnetic field, is photon positive or negative charged? How much?

It doesn't have a charge. It is the mediator of charge itself.

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Can a magnet attract photons?

Nope.
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: seeker3 on 29/03/2019 23:30:46
If photon carry electric and magnetic field, is photon positive or negative charged? How much?

It doesn't have a charge. It is the mediator of charge itself.

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Can a magnet attract photons?

Nope.

If photons have no charge, how can it carry electric field?

If photon has magnetic field, why magnet don't attract it? What else can magnet attract?
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: Kryptid on 29/03/2019 23:33:58
If photons have no charge, how can it carry electric field?

If photon has magnetic field, why magnet don't attract it? What else can magnet attract?

You're thinking about this in the wrong way. Those photons are the fields. The objects that have the fields are what experience attraction or repulsion.
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: seeker3 on 29/03/2019 23:36:30
Can you answer the questions?

The rest is secondary.
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: Kryptid on 29/03/2019 23:40:33
Can you answer the questions?

(1) Because objects with electric charge don't carry electric fields. They have electric fields. Photons are what those fields are made of and what carries them.
(2) Because objects with magnetic poles don't carry magnetic fields. They have magnetic fields. Photons are what those fields are made of and what carries them.
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: seeker3 on 29/03/2019 23:58:25
Is photon carry electric charge or not?

Yes? How much? Positive or negative?

No? Then how can photon carry EM wave?
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: Kryptid on 30/03/2019 00:04:33
Is photon carry electric charge or not?

Yes? How much? Positive or negative?

No? Then how can photon carry EM wave?

Asking the same questions a second time will not change the answers.
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: seeker3 on 30/03/2019 00:07:49
You made some word puzzle, not answer.

Is photon carry electric charge or not?

Yes? How much? Positive or negative?

No? Then how can photon carry EM wave?
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: Kryptid on 30/03/2019 00:09:54
You made some word puzzle, not answer.

Just because you didn't understand the answer doesn't make it wrong.
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: seeker3 on 30/03/2019 00:15:03
Who else understand your answer? where are they?
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: Kryptid on 30/03/2019 00:20:12
Who else understand your answer? where are they?

Pretty much everyone in the physics community. It's commonly-accepted knowledge that photons have no electric charge.and that they transmit the electromagnetic force.
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: seeker3 on 30/03/2019 00:22:21
How? What is the mechanism?
Title: Re: The mechanism of light, gravity, magnetism and more.
Post by: Kryptid on 30/03/2019 00:26:37
How? What is the mechanism?

This video explains how:
The relevant part starts around 2:15.