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On the Lighter Side => That CAN'T be true! => Topic started by: casualty on 13/07/2021 05:07:03
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According to a Johns Hopkins University professor of "surgery and health policy & management", the medical industry kills 250 thousand Americans / year (685 / day). Source: "Medical Errors Are No. 3 Cause Of U.S Deaths, Researchers Say", NPR article, 2016-May-03. That figure is lower that Covid-19 at its worst, but by no more than an order of magnitude.
Politicians aren't alarmed by those numbers. They don't call it emergency. They don't spend trillions to control it.
The media isn't alarmed by those numbers. There's no round the clock coverage of the 685 killed by the medical industry daily.
Society is acting inconsistently, to the medical industry's advantage.
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"The medical industry" doesn't attack random civilians in the street for no reason. COVID does.
Medical mistakes only occur when (a) the patient is sick and (b) you are trying to heal him. So you need to normalise your fatal error rate by the number of patients undergoing active interventional treatment on any day (about 5,000,000 in the USA) and add some correction factor for those on longterm medication (probably another 20,000,000) and those who would have died from other causes even if you hadn't made a mistake (about 12,000). At its peak, and despite the best available interventions, COVID was killing 3 - 5,000 per day, most of whom would not have died from anything else on that day had they not been infected.
In the absence of preventive measures and treatment, COVID will kill around 10 - 20% of the population and severely disable about the same number.
So numerically the US response was entirely sensible if a bit late. Much like 1917 and 1941.
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A get this from Google search.
Top 10 Causes of Death in America
These are the conditions and catalysts that killed the most Americans in 2020.
By Gary Emerling
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April 20, 2021, at 10:12 a.m.
U.S. News & World Report
Top 10 Causes of Death in America
More
Leading Causes of Death in the U.S.
Heart Disease
Cancer
COVID-19
Accidents/Unintentional Injuries
Cerebrovascular Diseases
Chronic Lower Respiratory Diseases
Alzheimer's Disease
Diabetes
Influenza and Pneumonia
Kidney Disease
https://www.usnews.com/news/healthiest-communities/slideshows/top-10-causes-of-death-in-america?slide=12
Fortunately the first two cases are not highly infectious.
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That figure is lower .... but by no more than an order of magnitude.
We await the next statistical analysis, along the lines of: "Amateur pilots only have about 8 times more crashes per mile than professionals, so why bother with advanced training? It doesn't lower the incident rate by more than an order of magnitude."
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Maybe you can learn something from China, how to handle this case.
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A get this from Google search.
Top 10 Causes of Death in America....
When you follow the cites from the link you post, Google got that list from U.S. News & World Report, who got it from JAMA, and JAMA is citing National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) National Vital Statistics System (NVSS) there.
But in the original post, the whole post, this whole thread, I cite JHU, complaining about how NVSS is rigged to omit counting people killed by the medical industry. I cited an NPR article. If you look at the NPR article, it's about those NVSS stats you cite -- the NPR article is all about how those stats you post are misleading. JHU professor asked the CDC to stop being so deceitful, but the CDC has refused. It's all in the NPR article.
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Medical mistakes only occur when (a) the patient is sick and (b) you are trying to heal him.
(c) you exclude elective treatments and experimental vaccines?
(d) the medical industry manufacturing the Oxycontin-addiction epidemic for profit was not really the medical industry trying to "heal" patients; it was the industry doing something else
(e) You imply that, for example, experimental vaccines not approved by the FDA are safe, but not even the FDA is willing to call Covid vaccine safe, because it's experimental. People who take it are guinea pigs in human experimentation, not taking a drug deemed "safe" by FDA.
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According to a Johns Hopkins University professor of "surgery and health policy & management",
If you gave us a name, rather than an appeal to authority, we might be able look at the report and make up our own minds.
Anyway, here's the original article.
https://www.bmj.com/content/353/bmj.i2139.full
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People who take it are guinea pigs in human experimentation, not taking a drug deemed "safe" by FDA.
This idea of being "safe" is a bit silly.
If you are alive, you can die.
So the only way to be safe is to already be dead.
Once you realise that "safe" is a relative, rather than abstract idea, it's clear that all the vaccine has to be is "probabaly less dangerous than not having it- and risking getting the virus".
On that score , it's safe.
It is interesting that things like human- or system- error aren't recorded on death certificates, but it's not because of some mystical or malign influence.
It's simple. Doctors wrote medical stuff (rather than fault tree analysis stuff) on death certificates because they were not trained to do risk analysis.
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According to a Johns Hopkins University professor of "surgery and health policy & management",
If you gave us a name, rather than an appeal to authority, we might be able look at the report and make up our own minds.
Anyway, here's the original article.
https://www.bmj.com/content/353/bmj.i2139.full
First thing I did was post a link to a letter signed by the JHU professor. When the spam-filter prohibited the link, you call that "appeal to authority" fallacy. Anyway.
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Once you realise that "safe" is a relative, rather than abstract idea, it's clear that all the vaccine has to be is "probabaly less dangerous than not having it- and risking getting the virus".
On that score , it's safe.
It is interesting that things like human- or system- error aren't recorded on death certificates, but it's not because of some mystical or malign influence.
I wasn't contemplating any mysticism in this thread. I have a science degree with Phi Beta Kappa honors from Stanford, which I obtained excelling in science not mysticism.
The medical industry pays a ton to CNN for advertising. CNN then continuously airs medical-industry marketing / advertising / public-relations press-releases disguised as news stories about Covid-19, while ignoring the 685 Americans / day killed by the medical industry. This bias isn't for the sake of science or public health.
How many killed by pollution from the vaccine's manufacture? The FDA discounts those casualties, like it discounts climate change from the vaccine's manufacture, transportation, and administration. How many killed by economic hardship as a result of trillions being taken from the public by the government and transferred to the medical industry?
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I have a science degree with Phi Beta Kappa honors from Stanford
One of the new universities, I see.
That's another failed attempt at argument from authority.
How many killed by pollution from the vaccine's manufacture?
Have you ruled out zero as the answer to that?
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Medical mistakes only occur when (a) the patient is sick and (b) you are trying to heal him.
(c) you exclude elective treatments and experimental vaccines?
(d) the medical industry manufacturing the Oxycontin-addiction epidemic for profit was not really the medical industry trying to "heal" patients; it was the industry doing something else
(e) You imply that, for example, experimental vaccines not approved by the FDA are safe, but not even the FDA is willing to call Covid vaccine safe, because it's experimental. People who take it are guinea pigs in human experimentation, not taking a drug deemed "safe" by FDA.
I have no idea what you included in your 685 fatal medical mistakes per day, nor how those figures were compiled. Nevertheless
"Elective" treatment means treatment that has been scheduled,i.e non-emergency treatment of actual pathology. You may have confused this with "vanity" treatment, where there is nothing medically wrong with the customer.
I sit on a medical research ethics committee that regularly reviews proposals for novel treatments including experimental vaccines. If you don't experiment, you won't develop anything. So are you advocating stasis? Volunteers for experimental procedures must be fully briefed on the risks, and a large part of our job is to ascertain that risks are clearly and accurately set out, and that only those fully capable of understanding the risks are allowed to consent to the trial. I wouldn't class an adverse reaction to an experimental technique as a mistake, though mistakes do occassionally occur in the trial procedures and any that lead to adverse events are strenuously investigated.
Oxycontin was manufactured as a potent analgesic, and is extremely effective. It is potentially addictive, but if you want to name a really effective, addictive killer, try handguns (which have no other function), religion, or alcohol.
I didn't mention the word "safe" or imply it, nor is it the case that anything approved by the FDA is safe, especially if misused. Medicine is all about a balance of risk.
A military surgeon of my acquaintance recounted his experience of the Second World War thus: "When war broke out, they gave me a pistol. No idea why - I killed more people with my scalpel."
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It is something that is widely studied.
https://www.lse.ac.uk/News/Latest-news-from-LSE/2021/a-Jan-21/Life-years
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7345973/
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I have a science degree with Phi Beta Kappa honors from Stanford
One of the new universities, I see.
That's another failed attempt at argument from authority.
That was my first actual appeal to authority. It was a direct response to the suggestion I was contemplating mysticism, ad hom straw man. It's a fallacy, but good enough to ward off M.D.'s who pretend their degrees matter.
How many killed by pollution from the vaccine's manufacture?
Have you ruled out zero as the answer to that?
"The U.S. health care system contributes significantly to country-wide air and water pollution, and hence, to pollution-related health damages. U.S. health care activities were responsible for 9% to 10% of national greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions in 2013.... We projected that annual [greenhouse-gas] emissions associated with health care in the United States would cause [annually] 123,000 to 381,000 disability-adjusted life-years in future health damages... [Furthermore, non-GHG] health care-associated emissions... contribute to acid rain (12% of the national total), photochemical smog (10%), and respiratory disease (9%). Public health damages from exposure to non-GHG emissions were subsequently estimated at 405,000 disability-adjusted life-years (DALYs) annually...." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5922190/
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I have no idea what you included in your 685 fatal medical mistakes per day, nor how those figures were compiled.
The source is cited in the original post. NPR article, unless Google is not showing you that. NPR links to letter signed by JHU professor. What more can I do to disclose the methodology?
Edited to add: Looks like I can post it now:
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2822345-Hopkins-CDC-letter.html
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are you advocating stasis?
I thought the CDC could stop misleading the public with deceptive stats covering up for the medical industry. Media could stop disguising medical-industry commercials as news stories. That wouldn't require stasis.
if you want to name a really effective, addictive killer, try handguns (which have no other function)
But for each American killed by gun homicide, 23 are killed by the medical industry. My mother, killed by the medical industry, not a gun; me, dying from medical-industry mistreatment, not from a gun. I don't feel better about it because doctors supposedly have some other purpose. I see their ostensible other purpose being used to downplay the cost of my death.
Who outside the medical industry wants the CDC to continue misleading the public with deceptive stats?
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If teh only stats that are collected are deceptive, how do you know the real numbers?
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me, dying from medical-industry mistreatment
What are you being treated for? If you know the treatment is wrong, why are you continuing with it?
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According to a Johns Hopkins University professor of "surgery and health policy & management", the medical industry kills 250 thousand Americans / year (685 / day). Source: "Medical Errors Are No. 3 Cause Of U.S Deaths, Researchers Say", NPR article, 2016-May-03. That figure is lower that Covid-19 at its worst, but by no more than an order of magnitude.
Have you a source for that?
Medical errors and medical failures are 2 different things. So is the difference between such things as turning off life support, pain relief being more than the patient can tolerate, allergic reactionsor a patient passing away on the operating table and such things as administering incorrect drugs, neglect of care once under medical treatment or contaminated blood.
If there where 250,000 us citizens passing annually from actual legal neglegence with the compensation culture that abounds in the USA that would be a very very big expense at 10 million bucks a pop. The sheer threat of being sued may be a factor in the hesitancy to act in good faith, which again does not constitute a negligence death, no one can ban man's biological frailty nor litigate away his mortal nature.
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If there where 250,000 us citizens passing annually from actual legal neglegence with the compensation culture that abounds in the USA that would be a very very big expense at 10 million bucks a pop.
Evidence that "compensation culture" somehow overcomes the medical industry's practice of buying politicians?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/257364/top-lobbying-industries-in-the-us/
How much has the medical industry paid out to patients for its negligent manufacturing of the Oxycontin-addiction epidemic for profit? The medical industry pretty much got away with mass murder, no?
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me, dying from medical-industry mistreatment
What are you being treated for? If you know the treatment is wrong, why are you continuing with it?
I feel I'm being entrapped into an ad hominem discussion about me here. First I was insulted as a "mystic", which was personal, so I defended myself (and Stanford, and Harvard and MIT for admitting me). Then I got upset when a doctor suggestion CNN is doing just fine by covering up for the medical industry as it kills 685 Americans / day, like my mother and me; so I responded with more personal info. I don't like direction I'm being taken, so I won't answer in this thread. I'm doing some high-I.Q. stuff about my health, like all my test scores show, so there's no need to worry I'm being dumb about it.
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no one can ban man's biological frailty nor litigate away his mortal nature.
straw man
you ignore the JHU's medical study, you look observe the behavior of judges and infer doctors must innocent because the judges say so. I don't share your faith in judicial scientific competence.
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no one can ban man's biological frailty nor litigate away his mortal nature.
straw man
Unacceptable.
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no one can ban man's biological frailty nor litigate away his mortal nature.
straw man
you ignore the JHU's medical study, you look observe the behavior of judges and infer doctors must innocent because the judges say so. I don't share your faith in judicial scientific competence.
Being as you have added to your post what I ment in the original quote is you cannot ban the mortal nature of Mankind as several countries seemed hellbent on doing during the corona outbreak. Approximately 1 million people pass away in the UK annually from various causes yet the government does not ban sesame or eradicate the bees, it let's cars continue to drive and people to leave their houses where there are bathrooms for them to slip in. A crap non acting doctor is not negligence anymore than an incurable disease is negligence because of lack of research funding.
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infer doctors must innocent because the judges say so. I don't share your faith in judicial scientific competence.
Apart from a jury, there is no other arbiter of guilt in a civilised society. A Bayesian approach to competence would suggest as many innocent men are condemned as guilty men are freed.
I found it very difficult (it took nearly an hour) to demonstrate to a professional tribunal that their retained appointed expert witness was in fact a hostile amateur, and too many defence lawyers point out that a guilty plea bargain is quicker and cheaper than demolishing a government inspector on the witness stand, but the tide is turning.
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infer doctors must innocent because the judges say so. I don't share your faith in judicial scientific competence.
Apart from a jury, there is no other arbiter of guilt in a civilised society.
Depending on your definition of 'civilized', which is a matter of semantics. I have acted as a lawyer cross-examining expert-witness M.D. Everything, everyone stacked in the M.D.'s favor. Court records in Arizona, USA, 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, media coverage, surviving internet footprint, all say that my head pain is imaginary, and the USA was right, just, and heroic to imprison me six years for reporting it to the health department. Taken last night:
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So what is the diagnosis of what appears to be a palpable lump?
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So what is the diagnosis of what appears to be a palpable lump?
plus loss of consciousness, waking up on the floor covered in my own urine; double vision; weak heartbeat; shortness of breath; light-headed; dizzy loss of balance; severe pain
"somatoform disorder" -- Mayo Clinic
"no head and neck pathology" -- Stanford
"neuralgia" -- University of Arizona / Arizona Department of Health Services / CDC
"delusions / psychosis" -- United States Department of Justice
"something... things" -- U.S. District Judge Raner Collins, as ratified by the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ufunzy6nilgv39/composite.png?dl=0
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LUIuTbc95ouBefqJjwSd0M2ac5No_c3WlK7fLaP7ViY/edit?usp=sharing
My neighbors are dying at an astronomical rate, and there is an elementary school near; but that alliance above is the most powerful mafia in the world insisting violently that this is not infectious or transmissible. There's not even a lump, because it's just psychiatric. If you disagree, big problems from the group above.
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So what is the diagnosis of what appears to be a palpable lump?
plus loss of consciousness, waking up on the floor covered in my own urine; double vision; weak heartbeat; shortness of breath; light-headed; dizzy loss of balance; severe pain
"somatoform disorder" -- Mayo Clinic
"no head and neck pathology" -- Stanford
"neuralgia" -- University of Arizona / Arizona Department of Health Services / CDC
"delusions / psychosis" -- United States Department of Justice
"something... things" -- U.S. District Judge Raner Collins, as ratified by the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ufunzy6nilgv39/composite.png?dl=0
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LUIuTbc95ouBefqJjwSd0M2ac5No_c3WlK7fLaP7ViY/edit?usp=sharing
My neighbors are dying at an astronomical rate, and there is an elementary school near; but that alliance above is the most powerful mafia in the world insisting violently that this is not infectious or transmissible. There's not even a lump, because it's just psychiatric. If you disagree, big problems from the group above.
I can believe things can happen like this.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint_water_crisis#:~:text=The%20Flint%20water%20crisis%20was,lead%20and%20possibly%20Legionella%20bacteria.
Or parasites.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4154650/#:~:text=The%20major%20neglected%20parasitic%20infections,1%5D%2C%20%5B2%5D.
Sick building syndrome with mould etc
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2796751/
These are all possible localised problems.
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These are all possible localised problems.
Thanks for those interesting examples. I doubt this infectious disease is contained to any region of the U.S. My mother showed signs and then died in Washington D.C in 1985., first misdiagnosed by quack M.D.'s as mental, subsequently revised to cancer. I felt symptoms by 1988. Since then I've in college dorms, Manhattan, Brooklyn, San Diego. The disease has a component moves outside the body and can fly, so if it wants to spread to other hosts, it has the means.
The diagnoses I received are non-specific to any locale. People everywhere receive the same diagnoses I've received. Any number might have this infection.
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plus loss of consciousness, waking up on the floor covered in my own urine; double vision; weak heartbeat; shortness of breath; light-headed; dizzy loss of balance; severe pain
No.
There's a difference between signs and symptoms.
I might think you are a nutcase.
But that can't explain a lump on your head.
So, if I was a doctor I'd be clearly negligent to ignore it.
What explanation have they put forward for that lump?
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plus loss of consciousness, waking up on the floor covered in my own urine; double vision; weak heartbeat; shortness of breath; light-headed; dizzy loss of balance; severe pain
No.
There's a difference between signs and symptoms.
I studied medicine, that's how I knew there was pathology while licensed M.D.'s made lots of money denying it. I learned the diff between signs and symptoms while studying medicine. Plus, my science grades so much higher than pre-med students. I was Phi Beta Kappa. Naturally blessed with innate mental strength.
I might think you are a nutcase.
But that can't explain a lump on your head.
So, if I was a doctor I'd be clearly negligent to ignore it.
What explanation have they put forward for that lump?
They haven't paid me any damages, so they must not be negligent. There must be no lump, and you're hallucinating if you see one. I would be an idiot to care what any M.D. thinks about the lump. By 2005, I had designed and run experiments which returned chemical information about the pathogen(s). M.D.'s do not care. I would be an idiot to return to my abuser, the medical industry.
re the lump (which is a sign not a symptom), Arizona Marty Newman, M.D. asked me for a bribe, and when I refused, he testified: "She had relayed to me a history of delusional somatoform-type type issues whereby he was pursuing numerous medical doctors to explain one symptom or another."
The law gave the DOJ 30 days to determine my competence. They took a year, confining me to a DOJ hospital. re the lump, USA concludes:
"… Ten years ago … Something happened, and there’s no shame in the fact that something happened. Things happen to people all the time. … You have to learn to deal with it. People have to deal with stuff all the time. Sometimes you deal with stuff by taking [psychiatric] medication. It makes things better. …"
USA has acted at every turn like they want to catch this transmissible infectious disease and die. I can't empathize with them, they act stupid.
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What explanation have they put forward for that lump?
Before I took over my own defense, my own lawyers were wantonly corrupt. My own lawyers tried to forcibly drug and commit me, for reporting the pain in my head, and they threatened violence against me in front of the judge, who didn't mind. They are blatant criminals:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uztw37RcMWNMx4pg4GBJy1BDnBRCAJnzMC_6JFYKpMI/pub
"I was
6 talking nicely with him, suggesting that if he gets
7 medicated, he will be fine, that there's -- I
8 didn't believe there was any evil in his spirit,
9 but he just needs medication to get away from the
10 delusional problems that he has."
Said "delusion" meaning, I was reporting the pain my head, and they call that a "delusion", and no one 2nd guesses them. The medical industry got hundreds of thousands from me and millions from the DOJ to deny there's any physical illness.
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Before I took over my own defense, my own lawyers were wantonly corrupt. My own lawyers tried to forcibly drug and commit me
I don't believe the DOJ, your defense team, the medical community and academia are all colluding to screw you over. It makes no sense, it's not believable. Maybe they were all saying the same thing because it was the truth. You need to consider that.
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Before I took over my own defense, my own lawyers were wantonly corrupt. My own lawyers tried to forcibly drug and commit me
I don't believe the DOJ, your defense team, the medical community and academia are all colluding to screw you over. It makes no sense, it's not believable. Maybe they were all saying the same thing because it was the truth. You need to consider that.
What they all say is that there's no pathology. They all say that my reporting pain in my head is crazy, they all say my belief in the presence of physical pathology is crazy. That is the crazy they accused me of, not some other crazy from the DSM, but the crazy where patients reports pain & concern, and doctors deny any physical cause.
I'm not just considering that they're right. I conceded fully. There's no lump on my head, no extremely dangerous, deadly, uncontrolled, transmissible infectious disease. Seriously. Harvard, MIT, Stanford made giant mistake calling me intelligent. I do concede, no need to push the issue. No lump on my head.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1C5HH1FIvvbmht2OdOIIu1qWif3VZFhk4Z5XMztzZy-c/pub
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Before I took over my own defense, my own lawyers were wantonly corrupt. My own lawyers tried to forcibly drug and commit me
I don't believe the DOJ, your defense team, the medical community and academia are all colluding to screw you over. It makes no sense, it's not believable. Maybe they were all saying the same thing because it was the truth. You need to consider that.
P.S.
I showed you court transcript of lawyer threatening me in courtroom, you silly joker.
it's one thing for you to insult my intelligence on the internet like you do. I must be dumb and scientifically incompetent because all those government employees in a cartel-controlled region with lower science grades say I'm dumb, is your argument.
It's another thing to put your license on the line against me now. If you want to put a license number next to your insulting suggestion above, you end up on the witness stand, and Dr. Diaz obviously did not like it there:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/tr9m7upxd775dxp/anxiousDiaz.png?dl=0
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Maybe they were all saying the same thing because it was the truth. You need to consider that.
What about when I was elected student body president of the smartest boarding school in America? How did they all overlook my serious mental incompetence and delusions?
How did I date Vice President Gore's daughter for two years, without Secret Service or anyone suspecting I'm gravely delusional and psychotic?
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Maybe they were all saying the same thing because it was the truth. You need to consider that.
Also David Slavit, M.D. and Randal Cohen, M.D.: They weren't psychiatrists, they were head and neck surgeons who said I needed biopsy. Slavit in 1999, but when I went to Mayo for surgery, the elderly M.D. with exhibiting dementia denied I needed a biopsy.
Cohen ordered biopsy in 2007, but before surgery, DOJ arrested me and re-diagnosed it has delusions.
Those two must be crazy, Cohen and Slavit. They're outnumbered 200 to 1.
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Before I took over my own defense, my own lawyers were wantonly corrupt. My own lawyers tried to forcibly drug and commit me
I don't believe the DOJ, your defense team, the medical community and academia are all colluding to screw you over. It makes no sense, it's not believable. Maybe they were all saying the same thing because it was the truth. You need to consider that.
DOJ says I am "mentally incompetent"
9th Circuit Court of Appeals says I am "articulate and intelligent".
Stanford says: https://www.dropbox.com/s/djo04kasxxb8t7e/Stanford%20Transcript.pdf?dl=0
Where is the link to your report card, please, so I can decide how seriously to take you?
You call that "all saying the same thing". So much for the competence of your interpretation and representation of the facts.
I concede, there's no lump on the back of my head. I respect medical industry's authoritah.
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Maybe they were all saying the same thing because it was the truth. You need to consider that.
Maybe Li Wenliang and Galileo were punished because they are incompetent and deserve punishment like me. You must consider it, when you see the number and power of the people who opposed Li Wenliang and Galileo.
Since you promote authoritarianism as a replacement for science.
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I don't believe the DOJ, your defense team, the medical community and academia are all colluding to screw you over. It makes no sense, it's not believable. Maybe they were all saying the same thing because it was the truth. You need to consider that.
One I had been in custody for 65 months under a coerced 18-month guilty agreement, U.S. District Judge Raner Collins said:
"I added it up, and I came up with the fact that you spent over 42 months in custody on this case, if my math is anywhere near correct, on a case where the initial guideline sentence was 18 to 24 months."
True is 65 months, but his "math" says 42 months.
>>> 65 / 42 * 100
154.76190476190476
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He exhibits sub-human mathematical functioning, but he must be right about science and psychiatry because authoritarianism.
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I don't believe the DOJ, your defense team, the medical community and academia are all colluding to screw you over. It makes no sense, it's not believable. Maybe they were all saying the same thing because it was the truth. You need to consider that.
Where can I see the DOJ's science grades? And my lawyer who threatened me? Where can I see M.D.'s I.Q. scores and SAT scores, measuring them against non-medical people? I asked FBI to see their science grades:
FBI:
You stupid asses maintained for six years that I am mentally incompetent. Here is my transcript:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/djo04kasxxb8t7e/Stanford%20Transcript.pdf?dl=0
Lets get your transcripts into evidence?
that's some ghetto sh-t you're into, bottom dwelling classless scum
your office can't afford to hire anyone with a transcript like mine, so they hire dumb hicks instead
U.S. Attorney in my case argued I am "mentally incompetent" because I called the Tucson federal court "a factory for processing illegal aliens". You and everyone in the world can see there's nothing incompetent about that statement; it's a description that's not even politically controversial. You don't need to study psychiatry to see that. Yet the U.S. Attorney argued that because I had uttered that 1st-Amendment-protected statement, I should lose my right to defend myself and instead be committed and forcibly drugged. So the U.S. Attorney behaved ridiculously, and your job is to enable her ridiculousness. You all acted like the evil government the U.S. has fought in war, but with the subtlety of country bumpkins.
DOJ's perjury and other lies about my health maybe were fatal to me. If you meant to commit murder, you succeeded. You saved no children, because no children ever were in danger; you murdered a scientist working on technology to compose music. Admitted early to Harvard and MIT. You fooled the public into believing my illness is imaginary, when it's obviously physical; now they're sitting ducks for an uncontrolled, transmissible, devastating infectious disease that has no respect for human life, that is your doing, you stupid dogs.
Your witness Marty Newman asked me for a bribe while "evaluating" me, testifying adversely when I refused to pay him the bribe. Instead of protecting the public from extortionist Newman, you give him money to testify, and he commits perjury. He perjured about my health, misrepresenting physical symptoms as mental. You invite that and reward it. You had tunnel vision, wanting to commit me, you weren't watching the deadly, transmissible infectious disease Newman downplayed. If you weren't retarded, and I've met you and observed that you are, if you had half an animal brain, you would oppose deadly, transmissible infectious diseases. Instead, you rolled out the carpet for it to proliferate. It's not viral or fast, it flies under the medical radar for decades. I am a scientist with honors from Stanford, admitted early to MIT and Harvard, is researched this transmissible, deadly infectious disease. You're on your own now.
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I don't believe the DOJ, your defense team, the medical community and academia are all colluding to screw you over. It makes no sense, it's not believable. Maybe they were all saying the same thing because it was the truth. You need to consider that.
Is jealousy of my competence your reason for appealing to authority to insult me? You need to consider that. That would be sad. Why is your transcript kept hidden? What happened there? Why weren't you admitted to Harvard and MIT?
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60% of the five people living nearest me have died in the past two years, another getting cancer. One of them told me her doctor was great a few weeks before she died suddenly. Another thought it was strange that I do my own science rather swallowing quackery from M.D.'s with lower science aptitude than I have, but she is nothing at science, and her son maybe caught this and is very sick now.
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Maybe they were all saying the same thing because it was the truth. You need to consider that.
Have you considered that Arizona / DOJ witness psychiatrist Dr. Christine Pletkova, M.D. had just moved from Ghana and not yet learned to speak English? Her receptive and expressive language functioning was so incompetent, she misrepresented not only my own statements to her but also professor Roosevelt's statements to her. He had to correct her misrepresentations:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5ZYXb_HdIQhRU1ydFlXemptUDQ/edit?resourcekey=0-m7j05mraUcYZRX6KE882mg
When you rely on her opinion, you adopt her incompetence. You deny physical pathology in view of the lump, an utter joker utterly typical of the medical industry. You love extortionist / perjurer Marty Newman, M.D. I file your opinion with other accounts operated by random, angry jokers hiding their transcripts. You appeal to authority because facts and diagnostic criteria are too complicated for you, with your transcript in hiding.
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I don't believe the DOJ, your defense team, the medical community and academia are all colluding to screw you over. It makes no sense, it's not believable. Maybe they were all saying the same thing because it was the truth. You need to consider that.
Newman testified:
He admitted to me during our interviews that he is a follower and a supporter of Timothy McVeigh and his ideas and ideals and actions. He had also articulated to me that he was a follower of Charles Manson as well. [That was Newman committing perjury. See Justice Black here on the danger of secret interrogations. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aG7OIPofAf-V-tW6apCQuKm_b2fSHiuiXXBhWvaCSSE/pub]
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1U3E4fqnzjMj2MHacvgpmaLEyfrOvZdG_XHdfh4szG94/edit
If you believe I am in the Manson Family, you believe Vice President Gore took a Manson family member to the Gore residence in Carthage:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8b9vtnkbfurubgv/One%20Observatory%20Circle001.png?dl=0
I also inadvertently brought this transmissible infectious disease to the President's room at Walter Reed, but it's just psychiatric, so no worries.
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I'd still be interested in a response to #28 above.
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I'd still be interested in a response to #28 above.
The answer is #29. To suggest the apparently palpable lump is unrelated to 30 years of health complaints about head pain, symptoms, and signs, could not be taken seriously. I'm not going to help you figure out what it is, I've lost concern for your health. R & D is my job as a scientist, and I'm no longer willing to disclose knowledge for free. USA says it's psychiatric.
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I showed you court transcript of lawyer threatening me in courtroom, you silly joker.
This
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uztw37RcMWNMx4pg4GBJy1BDnBRCAJnzMC_6JFYKpMI/pub
is not a threat.
Nor is
"I was
6 talking nicely with him, suggesting that if he gets
7 medicated, he will be fine, that there's -- I
8 didn't believe there was any evil in his spirit,
9 but he just needs medication to get away from the
10 delusional problems that he has."
Could it be that the delusion they were talking about was the belief that you had been threatened when you were not?
And it doesn't help your "case" when we look at the transcript which says
"MR. KNEIP: Your Honor, there was a little
18 -- a few insults from my client, and I -- I did say
19 that, and I would apologize to the Court for that,
20 but not to him.
21 I have taken insults from him, as you
22 might suspect, long enough, and these today, being
23 called a clown and the rest of it I wouldn't repeat
24 in open court, but -- I think it's true that Mr. --
25 I expect to be done with this case after today, or
2
Case 4:07-cr-01838-RCC-BPV Document 274 Filed 08/19/11 Page 2 of 6
1 at least I hope so.
2 I think he's pushed it so far that even
3 with my 37 years I can't put up with this guy
4 anymore. I do have limits that I would react to
5 anybody's speech, and this man needs to be -- I was
6 talking nicely with him, suggesting that if he gets
7 medicated, he will be fine, that there's -- I
8 didn't believe there was any evil in his spirit,
9 but he just needs medication to get away from the
10 delusional problems that he has.
11 And he, of course, told me he has nothing
12 delusional, it's all me. Well --"
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This thread contains a large number of unsubstantiated claims, and is no longer relevant to the Covid19 section.
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"Somatoform disorder" is at least descriptive - a posh lump! - but hardly counts as a diagnosis. The rest seem like weak guesses at possible causes of your other symptoms. Has nobody actually biopsied, CT'd or MRI'd the lump on your neck? Not my job to make the diagnosis, but I 'm happy to sell the kit that others use to do so!
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"Somatoform disorder" is at least descriptive
Yes it's more or less synonymous with the description "psychosomatic".
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This
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uztw37RcMWNMx4pg4GBJy1BDnBRCAJnzMC_6JFYKpMI/pub
is not a threat.
What is your law license number? How much threat case-law do you know?
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"Somatoform disorder" is at least descriptive - a posh lump! - but hardly counts as a diagnosis. The rest seem like weak guesses at possible causes of your other symptoms. Has nobody actually biopsied, CT'd or MRI'd the lump on your neck? Not my job to make the diagnosis, but I 'm happy to sell the kit that others use to do so!
Like any mental diagnosis, the DSM includes a specific section on "Somatoform disorder", and DSM defines the condition in terms of several diagnostic criteria. The term has a technical meaning. I know it, because I've studied the pertinent medicine and law. My education in cognitive science gives me an additional legal upper hand against adverse lawyers and doctors. I wouldn't hesitate to sue any doctor who made that diagnosis, and I would be comfortable cross-examining him personally, and the 9th Circuit already confirms I'm good at law.
Pharmaceutical corporations charge trillions for the fruits of their labor, and their transcripts aren't as good as mine. I'm going to try that model now, since being a great person all my life only got me in trouble with the medical industry and U.S. government.
The cause of the lump is extremely dangerous. You need my help, but my help just became extremely expensive.
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This thread contains a large number of unsubstantiated claims, and is no longer relevant to the Covid19 section.
I see it's gone off topic, so I understand the forum move.
I don't see any claims that are unsubstantiated from me. Please specify any claims I've made need substantiation, so I can substantiate them? The Washington Post reports here about my past work as a newspaper publisher, and the Post notes that I was advised by Brit Hume and Donald Graham. My mother was a journalist for the Washington Post. I know all about claims, falseness, truth, libel, defamation.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/18_uYFjEbErtbxFUVo-Z7GLKVsXfDkhW3/view?usp=sharing
I'd like to substantiate any claims that need it, if you'll please specify them.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/18_uYFjEbErtbxFUVo-Z7GLKVsXfDkhW3/view?usp=sharing
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This
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uztw37RcMWNMx4pg4GBJy1BDnBRCAJnzMC_6JFYKpMI/pub
is not a threat.
What is your law license number? How much threat case-law do you know?
You rather miss the point.
I don't need to be a lawyer, just a potential juror.My education in cognitive science gives me an additional legal upper hand against adverse lawyers and doctors.
No, it clearly does not.
That's why you spent so long detained.
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That's why you spent so long detained.
Not once I became my own lawyer, I did not. I became less cordial with the judge,
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qnu68tudzu8dkkb/recording002.png?dl=0
and went home soon after.
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MR. KNEIP
Here's more about that unethical, professionally incompetent lawyer:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5ZYXb_HdIQhU1pfWDJqakdKRTg/view?usp=sharing&resourcekey=0-PgUZUxczN4ZVMTVeoaZAlw
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d7wcL3vj-_033bOilZvCkGJf0Gil37WHe-8tjNlCYDA/pub
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You rather miss the point.
I don't need to be a lawyer, just a potential juror.
The case-law is against your position, and your point reduces to announcing your intent to nullify the case-law and vote against me because you're jealous, petty, and vindictive. Your exactly the kind of person I imagine contracting this transmissible infectious disease, and the thought makes me laugh out loud.
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Could it be that the delusion they were talking about was the belief that you had been threatened when you were not?
No, that not what's shown in the public records. You ignore the public records, instead typing that you're jealous of me and mad at me, with your college grades hidden.
What the public record shows is: Psychiatrist Barry Morenz argued I should be committed for having stated that (1) a U.S. Probation Officer had made false statements; (2) some lawyers had done “the bare minimum”; (3) a judge was not “enforcing… an adequate level of attorney conduct”; and (4) Tucson federal court is a "factory for processing illegal aliens".
Lawyers have hired Morenz “maybe a couple thousand” times to conduct forensic mental-health evaluations, according to Morenz's testimony. Kneip's replacement attorney Steven Sherick confided to me that Morenz is widely regarded as a “whore” for lawyers: willing to give any “professional opinion” he is paid to give. You can see M.D.'s advertising their services in the back of state bar association magazines. Give them money, they will testify expert for you.
I hired a different expert, one who disagreed with expert Morenz. Defense attorney Lougee cross-examined Morenz, with mixed results. The judge ruled against Morenz. Kneip had been been siding with Morenz, the incompetent, corrupt loser, against me. So much for the incompetent team Kneip, Morenz, and you, all in agreement on the losing side.
I was raised to be a good, very hard working person, and I was recognized as such. Everyone I meet now is hostile and evil towards me, like you. I laugh out loud imagining you contracting this infectious disease and suffering and dying. The DOJ claims they stopped me from committing mass violence. Cyberbullies like you are the cause of mass violence. Did you learn your loutish manners from your parents? This is how your mother taught you by example to behave?
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Look at yourselves
"It has been suggested that Whitman's violent impulses, with which he had been struggling for several years, were caused by a tumor found in the white matter above his amygdala upon autopsy."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Texas_tower_shooting
Then I seek medical treatment for head symptoms, but the M.D.'s demonstrate deranged egos impairing their professional functioning to the point of incompetence. And then I'm charged with threatening mass violence, and what does the world do? Everyone in the world forms an agreement to pretend the lump in my head is psychiatric not physical. The DOJ denies me medical treatment for the lump, even while confining me to a medical facility. Everyone insults and abuses me. I serve my sentence, get released.
Everyone applauds the DOJ and medical industry for a job well done. You cyberbully me because that's how your rude mother raised you to behave. That's more mentally incompetent than animals. Science laughs out loud at your appeals to authority.
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I was raised to be a good
I laugh out loud imagining you contracting this infectious disease and suffering and dying.
Hmmmm
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I was raised to be a good
I laugh out loud imagining you contracting this infectious disease and suffering and dying.
Hmmmm
I was elected student body president of St. Albans, which is "the smartest boarding school in America" according to Business Insider.
People change when brutally tortured. The Holocaust medical experiments showed that, and my ordeal has lasted many times longer.
And then when something is physically eviscerating their brain too, personality change would be expectable to everyone except the idiots with authority. Didn't I just post the link about Charles Whitman? You don't understand that aspect of neuroscience?
Humans have showed me they are nothing but another pathogen. This transmissible infectious disease wants to lower humans' numbers; and it doesn't say stupid things like doctors, lawyers, judges, and people on the internet do. It's predatorial like humans, but less annoying and dumb than them.
You all have acted like you want to catch this infection and die from it. There's a lengthy public court record showing it. Everyone doing everything possible to ensure the transmission and proliferation of this extremely dangerous infectious disease. I laugh because I would have expected such self-destructive behavior from circus clowns only, not ethical professionals or supposed experts.
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replies are getting low i.q. in here, emotional people jealous of me and mad, incompetent at science
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I was raised to be a good
I laugh out loud imagining you contracting this infectious disease and suffering and dying.
Hmmmm
He's a cyberbully.
I used to be the most humble person about my intellect, and people were surprised when I got Phi Beta Kappa because I was so low key about my genius, but then something happened: the medical industry unethically called me stupid despite having lower IQ's than me, and the United States of America corruptly called me "mentally incompetent", and no one protested. So I realized, everyone is petty, trifling, and sleazy; no one has integrity or honor or deserves my further charity or good graces. Eat dirt.
Also, logically, since the infectious disease is merely a psychiatric delusion --- as countless experts testify under penalty of perjury ---, it's harmless when contracted, so when I imagine you all contracting it, it's not bad.
If you want to benefit from my R & D, you need to cancel the conviction, cancel the commitment, return my guns to me, apologize, convict and imprison Newman et al, and give me a Blue Angels flyover for being a heroic scientist everyone wanted to hurt because he did science better, like Galileo. And then, Congress can vote to give me ten trillion dollars like it gives pharmaceutical corporations. Then I will help you with my R & D.
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return my guns to me
Not in any sane society.
I've heard that people with guns are more likely to become a casualty.
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return my guns to me
Not in any sane society.
I've heard that people with guns are more likely to become a casualty.
The DOJ hoaxed the public in my case, pretending for six continuous years that I would become violent within 6 months if released ("dangerous"). Once I was released, the 6 months came and went.
The government lacks a legal basis to prohibit me from possessing guns. The DOJ has violated the plea agreement, and the Supreme Court has ruled that such a violation voids a conviction. The false guilty plea was coerced via denial of needed healthcare among other illegal tactics. An adequate defense attorney would have raised a diminished capacity defense, given the evidence of the infectious disease.
People who contract the transmissible infectious disease showing on my head will have a tendency to become violent, on account of its actions on the body systems. If you believe the DOJ, you believe something was making me violent.
The infectious disease's uncontrolled transmission is costly and dangerous to society and the U.S. government. Without my R&D, the authorities will remain helplessly incompetent:
"somatoform disorder" -- Mayo Clinic
"no head and neck pathology" -- Stanford
"neuralgia" -- University of Arizona / Arizona Department of Health Services / CDC
"delusions / psychosis" -- United States Department of Justice
"something... things" -- U.S. District Judge Raner Collins, as ratified by the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ufunzy6nilgv39/composite.png?dl=0
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LUIuTbc95ouBefqJjwSd0M2ac5No_c3WlK7fLaP7ViY/edit?usp=sharing
Thirty trillion for my R&D would be fair.
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point reduces to announcing your intent to nullify the case-law and vote against me because you're jealous, petty, and vindictive
No, it does not.
That's a non sequitur.
My case isn't based on the nonsense you imagined.
It's based on my understanding of the law.
Legally, for a threat to me made, there has to be a reasonable belief that it would be carried out.
It is clear from the context that no such reasonable belief would exist and thus the Judge quite correctly took no action.
But what we do have here is evidence of a persecution fantasy.
It's plainly in the realm of fantasy that I would be jealous of a dying, foolish, man with no prospects; yet you think I am jealous of you.
like Galileo.
Alas, to wear the mantle of Galileo it is not enough that you be persecuted by an unkind establishment, you must also be right.
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Please specify any claims I've made need substantiation, so I can substantiate them?
None of the information you have provided allows us to verify that you, the person posting under the username @casualty, are the same person referenced in the ‘documents’ you have linked to.
We get a large number of people making outlandish claims to be who they are obviously not, so you will have to bear our scepticism.
You ignore the public records, instead typing that you're jealous of me and mad at me, with your college grades hidden.
No one here is mad at you or jealous of the meagre achievements you claim. Many here have achieved far more.
Educational achievements are a mere starting point in the learning process and count for little after a few years in the real world; how you use that starting point is a true measure of intelligence.
Everyone I meet now is hostile and evil towards me, like you.
I see no hostility just some very valid observations on the interpretation of the information your have provided.
Many here would question your grip on reality:
Thirty trillion for my R&D would be fair.
You have shown no evidence of having any R&D of interest to us.
Some of us here have made personal fortunes assessing R&D and developing successful products. We are familiar with working under nondisclosure agreements and information held in escrow, etc, and are willing to work with anyone having genuine research. Note however that we have no interest in your history or in correcting any convictions you may have had.
replies are getting low i.q. in here,
I agree that your replies here are ‘getting low iq’. Not our problem, but casts more doubt on your claims.
emotional people jealous of me and mad, incompetent at science
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