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Non Life Sciences => Physics, Astronomy & Cosmology => Topic started by: neilep on 13/05/2024 10:49:15

Title: Observing Quantum Entangled particles At the Same Time . What Happens ?
Post by: neilep on 13/05/2024 10:49:15
Dearest Quantumologists,


Now, as a sheepy, my wool is always being entangled. Ewe pull one strand and another moves. This has baffled Quantum Woologists since 1743 when Sheep were invented by Sir Ramewe J.Umper the 3rd.


Now, say we have a pair of entangled particles. Observing one immediately changes the other. BUT.....what happens if ewe observe both the particles at the exact same time ?? what happens ? does the Universe suddenly end ? do all vending machines dispense goods for free ?




I need to know because I want to know and I hate not knowing stuff that I want to know.




Thank ewe for your kind consideration in this woolly mattered !!!




hugs and shmishes




mwah mwah mwah


Neilxxxxx





Title: Re: Observing Quantum Entangled particles At the Same Time . What Happens ?
Post by: paul cotter on 13/05/2024 19:10:18
To solve that conundrum we have invoke the Lamb shift!!  sorry Neilep, I couldn't resist, I have no clue as to the answer as it is well above my pay grade.
Title: Re: Observing Quantum Entangled particles At the Same Time . What Happens ?
Post by: Halc on 13/05/2024 19:24:33
Long time no bleat.  Glad to see ewe back.

Now, say we have a pair of entangled particles. Observing one immediately changes the other.
This is a misconception. Quantum theory does not say this. It simply says that if both are observed in the same way, the two measurements,  when compared, will be found to be correlated.

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what happens if ewe observe both the particles at the exact same time ??
Simultaneity is relative, which means that in one frame, one measurement takes place first, and in another frame, the other does. In some frames the two will be simultaneous. Nothing special happens. Same as before is all. The two measurements,  when compared, will be found to be correlated.


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Do all vending machines dispense goods for free ?
They've always been free. Ewe've just naively been stuffing money into the things, thinking it will help. It hastens the process maybe, but that's all.
Title: Re: Observing Quantum Entangled particles At the Same Time . What Happens ?
Post by: neilep on 14/05/2024 10:00:28
To solve that conundrum we have invoke the Lamb shift!!  sorry Neilep, I couldn't resist, I have no clue as to the answer as it is well above my pay grade.
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"Dear Boss Of Paul,

Please take this memo as authorisation to increase Mr. Cotters salary ten fold back-dated to 2014.
Please action this with immediate effect. "

There ewe go chum. Sorted. I shifted the payroll dept into the right gear for ewe.😊
Title: Re: Observing Quantum Entangled particles At the Same Time . What Happens ?
Post by: neilep on 14/05/2024 10:07:34
Long time no bleat.  Glad to see ewe back.

Now, say we have a pair of entangled particles. Observing one immediately changes the other.
This is a misconception. Quantum theory does not say this. It simply says that if both are observed in the same way, the two measurements,  when compared, will be found to be correlated.

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what happens if ewe observe both the particles at the exact same time ??
Simultaneity is relative, which means that in one frame, one measurement takes place first, and in another frame, the other does. In some frames the two will be simultaneous. Nothing special happens. Same as before is all. The two measurements,  when compared, will be found to be correlated.


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Do all vending machines dispense goods for free ?
They've always been free. Ewe've just naively been stuffing money into the things, thinking it will help. It hastens the process maybe, but that's all.



Thank ewe Halc, I just can't stump ewe can I ? I did wonder about the ' relative' aspect..grrrrrrrr !!....I must be learning stuff else why would I have pondered relatively ?

 "Simultaneity" My new favourite word.👍






Title: Re: Observing Quantum Entangled particles At the Same Time . What Happens ?
Post by: paul cotter on 14/05/2024 15:41:56
Extra remuneration for me, doubtful, I would not gambol on it. Anyways the "boss" these days = "the trouble and strife" (cockney rhyming slang). Alan appears to be in the same boat.