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Quote from: lauracostis on 18/05/2010 03:51:22Quote from: daveyboy on 18/05/2010 01:28:33I doubt getting pois every week is that safe either.pois has damaged my body, doing heroin once a week is probably better for your body than doing pois once a week. What damage have you seen, and irreversible?I feel, aside from the regular symptoms that are transitory, that my body suffers in the joints and soft tissues. Initially swelling, but any joints that are used more often during POIS seem to be damaged beyond the POIS period, and I get the feeling, more permanently. Particularly old workout injuries (my case very old[]).
Quote from: daveyboy on 18/05/2010 01:28:33I doubt getting pois every week is that safe either.pois has damaged my body, doing heroin once a week is probably better for your body than doing pois once a week.
I doubt getting pois every week is that safe either.
Quote from: daveman on 18/05/2010 13:09:44Quote from: lauracostis on 18/05/2010 03:51:22Quote from: daveyboy on 18/05/2010 01:28:33I doubt getting pois every week is that safe either.pois has damaged my body, doing heroin once a week is probably better for your body than doing pois once a week. What damage have you seen, and irreversible?I feel, aside from the regular symptoms that are transitory, that my body suffers in the joints and soft tissues. Initially swelling, but any joints that are used more often during POIS seem to be damaged beyond the POIS period, and I get the feeling, more permanently. Particularly old workout injuries (my case very old[]).inflamation causes cardiovascular disease, it erodes the smooth lining of your blood vessels, then plaque has a nice rough base to accumulate on. i had a CRP of 10+ last time i was checked, thats not normal for a male of my age, who should have a CRP of 0. that is unless you dont mind dieing from a heart attack or something.
For some people POIS is basically depleting your CHI which is your life energy force sucking you dry totally.
Actually crp sensitive is the more accurate one. CRP does not pick up the hidden inflammation.
inflamation causes cardiovascular disease, it erodes the smooth lining of your blood vessels, then plaque has a nice rough base to accumulate on.
Progesterone is an anti inflammatory.http://www.google.com/search?q=progesterone+anti+inflammatory&hl=en&start=0&sa=NA simple search on google showed a lot of pages claiming that fact.Isn't it possible that the effect on POIS is because of that?
QuoteIt seems one of possible diagnostic for this problem is 24 hours catecholamines dosage in urine.So, why not such a test in-Pois to show a supposed abnormal catecholamines activity ?B_Jim, would it be possible for us to test catecholamines activity when we go for other tests? For example, when I see my urologist - and my nephrologist - they always collect urine samples.Can it be blood tested? (All my hormonal testing is done via bloodwork).Can they request this from their laboratory or would it be a special diagnostic?
It seems one of possible diagnostic for this problem is 24 hours catecholamines dosage in urine.So, why not such a test in-Pois to show a supposed abnormal catecholamines activity ?
I had a short synacthen test a while ago and have realised I never found out the result (which probably means the result was normal as usually my doc would get in touch if it wasn't). I'll make an appointment to check the result soon. Has anyone else had this test? It tests adrenal function - mainly cortisol production I think.
I've had a 24 hour catecholamines test.
I - and many others - chased "chi" and "vital life force energy" philosophies.. with a Big-Fat-Zero for results. Very sad experiences have been reported here
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Quote from: hardasnails on 19/05/2010 18:57:42For some people POIS is basically depleting your CHI which is your life energy force sucking you dry totally.There is absolutely no empirical, statistical or scientific evidence that "chi" and "life energy force" exists, apart from 'anecdotal' information, akin to hearsay.If I sound just a little overly negative, it's because for many years I - and many others - chased "chi" and "vital life force energy" philosophies and their Eastern "treatments", such as that of Mantak Chia's semen-retention methods, herbs, and other assorted oddity "cures" for which there is no explanation and no labels on the bottles [] - - - with a Big-Fat-Zero for results. Very sad experiences have been reported here and elsewhere a number of times.Just in my case, if "chi" were true, I don't think my testosterone treatment + stimulants would be working. TRT + stimulants are hardly "spiritual"!Sorry to be so hard, I know that you said "for some people"...but I just would like to see people avoiding the misery of chasing one's tail for as many years as I - and many others - have.
daveyboy, no way! You must be thinking of someone else. []Send me the post where you think I said that!