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I gather you are talking about different experiments. Precision weight measurements of a heated metal in vacuum is missing from the literature.
Quote from: Colin2B on 23/01/2018 17:34:44As @Kryptid and @Bored chemist have repeatedly pointed out this has already been well tested.I gather you are talking about different experiments. Precision weight measurements of a heated metal in vacuum is missing from the literature.Quote from: Colin2B on 23/01/2018 17:34:44You need to talk to CERN they regularly test conservation of mass, energy and momentum and will show you the conditions under which these are conserved. I contacted CERN many times over the years and didn't get the results of the experiment.Quote from: Colin2B on 23/01/2018 17:34:44You might also show them your model of particles and im sure that if they find it more accurate than the existing one they will adopt it.I will be happy to show them my model of particles and gravity after the results of the experiment.
As @Kryptid and @Bored chemist have repeatedly pointed out this has already been well tested.
You need to talk to CERN they regularly test conservation of mass, energy and momentum and will show you the conditions under which these are conserved.
You might also show them your model of particles and im sure that if they find it more accurate than the existing one they will adopt it.
Quote from: Bored chemist on 23/01/2018 13:39:02It's your hypothesis.How did you come to the conclusion that it was responsibility for the experiment to test your insane hypothesis rests with anyone but you?This experiment is also designed to test conservation of mass.
It's your hypothesis.How did you come to the conclusion that it was responsibility for the experiment to test your insane hypothesis rests with anyone but you?
You’d better get busy then.#ResultsRequired
The University of Leeds will not assist my project and I don't have £120,000 to fund the experiment. How to proceed ?
Quote from: Yaniv on 25/01/2018 09:26:47The University of Leeds will not assist my project and I don't have £120,000 to fund the experiment. How to proceed ?Look for other sources of funding and support - research council, private donations etc.The thing that marks out successful people is they don't give up.
Quote from: Colin2B on 24/01/2018 13:47:21You’d better get busy then.#ResultsRequiredThe University of Leeds will not assist my project and I don't have £120,000 to fund the experiment. How to proceed ?
Actually, one of the things that marks out successful people is that they do give up- when they recognise that they are doing something pointless.
Look for other sources of funding and support - research council, private donations etc.The thing that marks out successful people is they don't give up.
You.I was going to suggest crowdfunding but @Bored chemist beat me to it.
I may have missed something along the way. What is the predicted mass or weight change for a given temperature change?That figure will determine the cost of the investigation.Happy to help thereafter.
I may have missed something along the way. What is the predicted mass or weight change for a given temperature change?
showed 20 gram metal heated by 5 degC in air lost 100 micrograms and 1 Kg metal heated in air lost 1 milligram (
You say he measured changes in mass with temperature. The 1Kg lost a milligram.Imagine that the 1Kg is split into 20 identical slices.Each of them must have lost 1/20 of a milligram- that's the only way the maths can work. 1/20 mg is 50 microgramsSo we know that if the measurements are valid then a 20 gram weight should lose 50 micrograms.
Incidentally, if the changes are really that big, it would be fairly easy to measure them- so much so that we would have noticed by now.We haven't.
So your experiment would also be relatively cheap. You would need some other bits + pieces too, but you don't need £120,000.
Actually 20 gram weight should have lost 20 micrograms but this is beside the point.
However, you can't be sure the entire change in weight is due to air convection without repeating the experiment in vacuum.
I suspect the experiment could be carried out at a fraction of the cost if you have free access to a vacuum chamber and a precision balance.
Why are you still pretending they are worthy of attention?
So get on with it.Don't come back until you have results.
Obviously, so why did you quote the silly price?
Weighing heated metals in air is the closest experiment I found to weighing heated metals in vacuum.
Maybe doing the experiment at higher precision is this expensive