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About that rhodiola, it seems at least it had some effect on you, maybe you had to get used to it? Did you notice any other effects?
Girlwind--I've noticed the same "adjustment isssues" you talk about. I've had some of my best days lately, but often times shortly after taking a modest adrenal support supplement I feel a bit "down". But I graph my moods everyday, and there is improvement. Remember your patience and perseverence admonition? The perseverence part is the hardest...
Quote from: deloun on 05/02/2009 18:40:23About that rhodiola, it seems at least it had some effect on you, maybe you had to get used to it? Did you notice any other effects?Unfortunately I couldn't notice any positive effect because I took it for a very short time. I'm not able to get used to it. The insomnia was really strong and unbearable. It's like it's the day during the night (for a lot of days after I took the pills).
If testosterone decreases prolactin, dopamine should be increased.
If I have daily sex it's devastating because I never recover.
Quote from: martin88 on 05/02/2009 13:25:18If testosterone decreases prolactin, dopamine should be increased.Martin, that's encouraging news for me. Thanks.Quote from: martin88 on 05/02/2009 13:25:18If I have daily sex it's devastating because I never recover.Horrifically and horrendously true for me, even if it's only once a week.
Demografx, how are you doing on the testosterone at the moment, by the way?
On sleeping sideways, i will suggest sleeping on couch is a little easier to sleep sideways on a couch.
Quote from: deloun on 05/02/2009 19:05:26Quote from: underwater on 05/02/2009 03:49:04Also, I have been noticing something weird lately. I sometimes go into the water fatigued and after a few laps feel just depleted. I fight not to get out. Then, after 15 minutes, I get some kind of rush, and I'm energetic.I have also noticed that heavy physical exercise can make me feel a bit better when having POIS symptoms. Scientific research shows that heavy physical exercise can cause an increase of catecholamines, so that may explain why. I was already thinking about adding this point to the POIS noradrenaline theory list. Are there any others that notice a bit of improvement after heavy physical exercise?Yes that happens to me all the time after exercising i get energetic but pois still exist. I think it is because of endorphinns
Quote from: underwater on 05/02/2009 03:49:04Also, I have been noticing something weird lately. I sometimes go into the water fatigued and after a few laps feel just depleted. I fight not to get out. Then, after 15 minutes, I get some kind of rush, and I'm energetic.I have also noticed that heavy physical exercise can make me feel a bit better when having POIS symptoms. Scientific research shows that heavy physical exercise can cause an increase of catecholamines, so that may explain why. I was already thinking about adding this point to the POIS noradrenaline theory list. Are there any others that notice a bit of improvement after heavy physical exercise?
Also, I have been noticing something weird lately. I sometimes go into the water fatigued and after a few laps feel just depleted. I fight not to get out. Then, after 15 minutes, I get some kind of rush, and I'm energetic.
Quote from: deloun on 05/02/2009 19:49:59Demografx, how are you doing on the testosterone at the moment, by the way?Thanks for asking, Deloun. I think my body has adjusted somewhat to the testosterone patches, yet I think my overall mood has improved. I'm concerned now about my body shutting down it's natural ability to produce T and/or re-start production. When I asked the endo about that, he said that my body wasn't producing enough T, and that we'll discuss that in our next visit. Fair enough, I'm certainly not ready to rip out the patches at this point.March 3, I will re-test blood for testosterone, prolactin, DHEA-S, and AM cortisol. On March 10, the endo and I will review the re-tests and decide the next step. We will also discuss things that others have brought up (thank you everyone) at this forum.I'm starting to think more and more that my higher success last year (75%+ POIS cure!) was due to the combination of depotestosterone (injection) and Levitra. When I dropped the T last year, the POIS cure dropped to 50% and lower. I'm in no rush to re-validate but hopeful that it can even be better this year because of the smoother T-delivery of the patches vs. the injectables. We'll see.
Quote from: martin88 on 06/02/2009 00:20:50Quote from: deloun on 05/02/2009 18:40:23About that rhodiola, it seems at least it had some effect on you, maybe you had to get used to it? Did you notice any other effects?Unfortunately I couldn't notice any positive effect because I took it for a very short time. I'm not able to get used to it. The insomnia was really strong and unbearable. It's like it's the day during the night (for a lot of days after I took the pills).Martin--I know rhodiola is supposed to be adaptogenic and relaxing, but I have noticed that when I took it, it also mademe a little bit mentally hyper. It never worked as well as schizandra or ashwaghanda. Have you tried either of those?
Quote from: CCconfucius on 06/02/2009 03:49:28On sleeping sideways, i will suggest sleeping on couch is a little easier to sleep sideways on a couch. What if we roll over, falling off the couch and break...oh nevermind... []
Quote from: deloun on 05/02/2009 19:05:26Quote from: underwater on 05/02/2009 03:49:04Also, I have been noticing something weird lately. I sometimes go into the water fatigued and after a few laps feel just depleted. I fight not to get out. Then, after 15 minutes, I get some kind of rush, and I'm energetic.Yes that happens to me all the time after exercising i get energetic but pois still exist. I think it is because of endorphinnsI have also noticed that heavy physical exercise can make me feel a bit better when having POIS symptoms. Scientific research shows that heavy physical exercise can cause an increase of catecholamines, so that may explain why. I was already thinking about adding this point to the POIS noradrenaline theory list. Are there any others that notice a bit of improvement after heavy physical exercise?
Quote from: underwater on 05/02/2009 03:49:04Also, I have been noticing something weird lately. I sometimes go into the water fatigued and after a few laps feel just depleted. I fight not to get out. Then, after 15 minutes, I get some kind of rush, and I'm energetic.Yes that happens to me all the time after exercising i get energetic but pois still exist. I think it is because of endorphinnsI have also noticed that heavy physical exercise can make me feel a bit better when having POIS symptoms. Scientific research shows that heavy physical exercise can cause an increase of catecholamines, so that may explain why. I was already thinking about adding this point to the POIS noradrenaline theory list. Are there any others that notice a bit of improvement after heavy physical exercise?
I guess this is another long rant-------------------------------------
Also, with exercise, insulin can better remove sugar from the bloodstream. Since some POIS symptoms are hyperglycemia like, this might be relevant.
FIRST TRIAL LEVITRA AND TESTOSTERONE PATCH COMBOSince several hours ago......very few POIS symptoms! First time with the patches. I'm cautiously optimistic and on guard for the placebo effect.As scientific research demands, I'm keeping my toes and fingers crossed! []